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![]() | On 10 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Rosamund (Gepid). The result of the discussion was Moved to Rosamund (queen). |
This page needs some attention. First, it needs some references. Second, it says "recent scholarship" and then cites a work from 1895. And the primary source is available online both in the original and in translation, so External Links would be good to add. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forkbeard ( talk • contribs) 02:41, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
"However, recent scholarship suggests that it was the work of multiple men, including Helmichis, Peredeo and Elmigisilus"
"Helmichis" and "Elmigisilus" are actually one and the same. The name elements are helm- and -gīs(l), as seen in the name of Tato's son, which appears as Hildechis in Paul the Deacon's History of the Lombards, but as Ιλδιγης/Ildigēs in Procopius (note that η/ē was pronounced /i:/ in contemporary Greek, so it's a perfect transcription of -gīs(l)). Furthermore, I just checked the source for this bit, Hodgkin's Italy and Her Invaders, and there's no mention of the form "Elmigisilus". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.134.115.212 ( talk) 23:36, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
The main connection between this woman and the play by Helmina von Chézy (known because of Schubert's music) seems to be that the protagonist is a princess called Rosamunde and that there was poison involved, or is there more to say about it?
The German Wikipedia says, "Das Schauspiel Rosamunde von Helmina von Chézy mit der Bühnenmusik Franz Schuberts geht sehr frei mit dem Stoff um" (...it handles the story very freely). Bever ( talk) 03:22, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Rosamund (queen). Per consensus. – robertsky ( talk) 12:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
Rosamund (wife of Alboin) → Rosamund (Gepid) – This was this article's title when it was created. We tend to regard it as inappropriate for women to be defined by their husbands; this is particularly valid in her case, since he raped her and then she tried to poison him. "Gepid", the name of the people she came from, is a perfectly reasonable way of describing her. PatGallacher ( talk) 00:45, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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![]() | On 10 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Rosamund (Gepid). The result of the discussion was Moved to Rosamund (queen). |
This page needs some attention. First, it needs some references. Second, it says "recent scholarship" and then cites a work from 1895. And the primary source is available online both in the original and in translation, so External Links would be good to add. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forkbeard ( talk • contribs) 02:41, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
"However, recent scholarship suggests that it was the work of multiple men, including Helmichis, Peredeo and Elmigisilus"
"Helmichis" and "Elmigisilus" are actually one and the same. The name elements are helm- and -gīs(l), as seen in the name of Tato's son, which appears as Hildechis in Paul the Deacon's History of the Lombards, but as Ιλδιγης/Ildigēs in Procopius (note that η/ē was pronounced /i:/ in contemporary Greek, so it's a perfect transcription of -gīs(l)). Furthermore, I just checked the source for this bit, Hodgkin's Italy and Her Invaders, and there's no mention of the form "Elmigisilus". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.134.115.212 ( talk) 23:36, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
The main connection between this woman and the play by Helmina von Chézy (known because of Schubert's music) seems to be that the protagonist is a princess called Rosamunde and that there was poison involved, or is there more to say about it?
The German Wikipedia says, "Das Schauspiel Rosamunde von Helmina von Chézy mit der Bühnenmusik Franz Schuberts geht sehr frei mit dem Stoff um" (...it handles the story very freely). Bever ( talk) 03:22, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Rosamund (queen). Per consensus. – robertsky ( talk) 12:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
Rosamund (wife of Alboin) → Rosamund (Gepid) – This was this article's title when it was created. We tend to regard it as inappropriate for women to be defined by their husbands; this is particularly valid in her case, since he raped her and then she tried to poison him. "Gepid", the name of the people she came from, is a perfectly reasonable way of describing her. PatGallacher ( talk) 00:45, 10 April 2024 (UTC)