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This is the TRUE origin of the name and need not be removed. The words "iwash" and "lakok" are from the chinook language , THE MOST RELEVANT LANGUAGE of the location of the rock! The original name "iwash" refers to "penis" not "rooster" see page 102 at http://books.google.com.mx/books?id=Oy8_5S8hMjAC&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=indian+name+rooster+rock+state+park&source=bl&ots=7W1KANtnzT&sig=k6XRYgZ7ZtAlouUs6EYAj59NfjY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA102,M1 If you remove this information you are trying to revise history, and the rich Native American culture that originally named it!{{ Markosjal ( talk) 06:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)|01:02, January 25, 2009|Markosjal}}
I did not type in ALL CAPS anywhere, rather only where EMPHASIS was desired. This is vastly different from ALL CAPS. There is also a response on my user page, and please nmote there are not always references for rare languages. Many languages were never written, for instance Navajo. I believe Chinook was not "written" per se until white men came along. Written stores were more commonly told with images. I will continue to use caps where I desire emphasis and that does not mean ALL CAPS. Markosjal ( talk) 06:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
A lot of the murkiness of this article could be cleared up if someone posted a photo. I don't have any, but I bet someone does, or could drive out there sometime soon and snap one. The photo in the article doesn't even show the object, or if it does, it's unrecognizable. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 06:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
I believe there is a an ambiguity that has occurred somewhere along the line. lakok is I believe Chinook Jargon (may come from French?) iwash is from the (original) Chinook language Markosjal Dec 5, 2011 7:40 PM Pacific
They are not the same language, although Chinook jargon evolved from Chinook, and included many original Chinook words.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markosjal ( talk • contribs) 03:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
I heard a convincing story by an elder Oregonian born c. 1900 that Rooster was named on-the-fly by a pilot while describing scenery for a tour by first lady Mamie Eisenhower (or maybe it was Eleanor Roosevelt). It was popularly known as Cock Rock until then, but the pilot could not dishonor the First Lady with such vulgarity. Aboutmovies recently posted a link to a photo book containing this page printed in 1914 which pretty well demolishes the story. If the story is well enough known, it might be useful to include to counter conventional wisdom. — EncMstr ( talk) 20:03, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
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This is the TRUE origin of the name and need not be removed. The words "iwash" and "lakok" are from the chinook language , THE MOST RELEVANT LANGUAGE of the location of the rock! The original name "iwash" refers to "penis" not "rooster" see page 102 at http://books.google.com.mx/books?id=Oy8_5S8hMjAC&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=indian+name+rooster+rock+state+park&source=bl&ots=7W1KANtnzT&sig=k6XRYgZ7ZtAlouUs6EYAj59NfjY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA102,M1 If you remove this information you are trying to revise history, and the rich Native American culture that originally named it!{{ Markosjal ( talk) 06:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)|01:02, January 25, 2009|Markosjal}}
I did not type in ALL CAPS anywhere, rather only where EMPHASIS was desired. This is vastly different from ALL CAPS. There is also a response on my user page, and please nmote there are not always references for rare languages. Many languages were never written, for instance Navajo. I believe Chinook was not "written" per se until white men came along. Written stores were more commonly told with images. I will continue to use caps where I desire emphasis and that does not mean ALL CAPS. Markosjal ( talk) 06:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
A lot of the murkiness of this article could be cleared up if someone posted a photo. I don't have any, but I bet someone does, or could drive out there sometime soon and snap one. The photo in the article doesn't even show the object, or if it does, it's unrecognizable. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 06:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
I believe there is a an ambiguity that has occurred somewhere along the line. lakok is I believe Chinook Jargon (may come from French?) iwash is from the (original) Chinook language Markosjal Dec 5, 2011 7:40 PM Pacific
They are not the same language, although Chinook jargon evolved from Chinook, and included many original Chinook words.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markosjal ( talk • contribs) 03:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
I heard a convincing story by an elder Oregonian born c. 1900 that Rooster was named on-the-fly by a pilot while describing scenery for a tour by first lady Mamie Eisenhower (or maybe it was Eleanor Roosevelt). It was popularly known as Cock Rock until then, but the pilot could not dishonor the First Lady with such vulgarity. Aboutmovies recently posted a link to a photo book containing this page printed in 1914 which pretty well demolishes the story. If the story is well enough known, it might be useful to include to counter conventional wisdom. — EncMstr ( talk) 20:03, 11 April 2012 (UTC)