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Goldman attended ISU? To my knowledge, he went to University of Illinois and Peirce College instead, leaving both after one semester (as per the Goldmans' book). ~ SE
COming here not knowing the background of the case I feel like this - "Goldman didn't own a car when he was killed, but could often be seen riding around the Brentwood area in Nicole Brown-Simpson's Ferrari." could use explanation. Is it an unsubstantiated rumor? Is it widely accepted that he already knew Nicole and there was perhaps something going on? B/c right now it's vaguely implied w/o even establishing what the widely believed truth is. Was he a stranger and the eyeglass thing is the only reason he was there? I honestly know nothing about the case which is why i can reliably say this is really confusing.
216.207.246.230
18:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
The entire section "The Murder" consists of a conspiracy theory. It should probably be removed, or redacted to a short sentence.
Uucp
21:18, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Since it is not technically a conspiracy theory, but background that suggests a conspiracy theory, I do not think this background should be deleted, but perhaps placed in a clearer context. Ronald Goldman was an employee at Mezzaluna, so I do not see why this background should be edited.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Crimedog ( talk • contribs)
The article states, "Evidence strongly indicated Goldman was killed by O. J. Simpson" even though he was found "not guilty."
Brentwood, CA is a small town in Northern California. Brentwood is a neighborhood of the city of Los Angeles, thus changed to Brentwood, Los Angeles, CA.
It is highly unlikely that he was born in Buffalo Grove, as all available health care facilities in 1968 were in adjacent Arlington Heights. Not impossible, but very, very doubtful. KriZe 08:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Frankly, this page is terrible- I noted where this data needs verifying/ elaborating with the {{fact}} tag. Anyone with the relevant info should either edit the right info in, or delete the information tagged Jonomacdrones 01:15, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
The article lists two different cemetaries that he is burried in, "Goldman is buried at the Agoura cemetery."
Come on...everybody knows O. J. did it. Why talk around it? "Ronald Goldman is buried in Valley Oaks Cemetery in Westlake Village, California"
O.J. was found liable for wrongful death in a civil trial. So at the very least it can be written "O.J. was responsible for Ron Goldman's death." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.117.30.57 ( talk) 00:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Ronald Lyle "Ron" Goldman (July 2, 1968 – June 12, 1994) was an American waiter and an aspiring model.
is this some kind of joke? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.133.108 ( talk) 00:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Innocent: Oj was found innocent of the murders — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.246.250.158 ( talk) 02:48, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
I understand that being victim of murder is the only reason why this guy passes notability qualifications for a Wikipedia article. But when he "was" -- id est existed, was alive -- he certainly was not "murder victim" yet, he was person, and he had other characteristics and qualities about him. I mean the first paragraph should be rephrased more elegantly, because, as of now, it borders with being not only incomplete and incorrect, but disrespectful, too. Not quite neutral. Just rephrase it a little, all right? 128.72.27.20 ( talk) 23:31, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
This article lists cause of death as " Murder". This was NOT the "cause" of death, nor was it the "manner" of death. Cause of death was fatal stab wounds to the neck, chest and abdomen. Manner of death was " homicide". Murder is unlawful killing with malice aforethought (a homicide wherein the perpetrator has formed an intent to kill the victim, as opposed to " manslaughter", wherein said intent is lacking. See linked Wiki articles.) Sourse: Turvey, Brent E., "An Overview of the Medicolegal Evidence Regarding: The State of California v. Orenthal James Simpson, Case: BA097211". Knowledge Solutions, LLC, February 1995.
I corrected "Cause of death", but for reasons unknown to me, I couldn't get "Manner of death" to show in the text box. (I inserted "death_manner" under "death_cause" in the source code, but to no effect.)
Cheers, Rico402 ( talk) 12:36, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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Goldman attended ISU? To my knowledge, he went to University of Illinois and Peirce College instead, leaving both after one semester (as per the Goldmans' book). ~ SE
COming here not knowing the background of the case I feel like this - "Goldman didn't own a car when he was killed, but could often be seen riding around the Brentwood area in Nicole Brown-Simpson's Ferrari." could use explanation. Is it an unsubstantiated rumor? Is it widely accepted that he already knew Nicole and there was perhaps something going on? B/c right now it's vaguely implied w/o even establishing what the widely believed truth is. Was he a stranger and the eyeglass thing is the only reason he was there? I honestly know nothing about the case which is why i can reliably say this is really confusing.
216.207.246.230
18:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
The entire section "The Murder" consists of a conspiracy theory. It should probably be removed, or redacted to a short sentence.
Uucp
21:18, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Since it is not technically a conspiracy theory, but background that suggests a conspiracy theory, I do not think this background should be deleted, but perhaps placed in a clearer context. Ronald Goldman was an employee at Mezzaluna, so I do not see why this background should be edited.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Crimedog ( talk • contribs)
The article states, "Evidence strongly indicated Goldman was killed by O. J. Simpson" even though he was found "not guilty."
Brentwood, CA is a small town in Northern California. Brentwood is a neighborhood of the city of Los Angeles, thus changed to Brentwood, Los Angeles, CA.
It is highly unlikely that he was born in Buffalo Grove, as all available health care facilities in 1968 were in adjacent Arlington Heights. Not impossible, but very, very doubtful. KriZe 08:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Frankly, this page is terrible- I noted where this data needs verifying/ elaborating with the {{fact}} tag. Anyone with the relevant info should either edit the right info in, or delete the information tagged Jonomacdrones 01:15, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
The article lists two different cemetaries that he is burried in, "Goldman is buried at the Agoura cemetery."
Come on...everybody knows O. J. did it. Why talk around it? "Ronald Goldman is buried in Valley Oaks Cemetery in Westlake Village, California"
O.J. was found liable for wrongful death in a civil trial. So at the very least it can be written "O.J. was responsible for Ron Goldman's death." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.117.30.57 ( talk) 00:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Ronald Lyle "Ron" Goldman (July 2, 1968 – June 12, 1994) was an American waiter and an aspiring model.
is this some kind of joke? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.133.108 ( talk) 00:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Innocent: Oj was found innocent of the murders — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.246.250.158 ( talk) 02:48, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
I understand that being victim of murder is the only reason why this guy passes notability qualifications for a Wikipedia article. But when he "was" -- id est existed, was alive -- he certainly was not "murder victim" yet, he was person, and he had other characteristics and qualities about him. I mean the first paragraph should be rephrased more elegantly, because, as of now, it borders with being not only incomplete and incorrect, but disrespectful, too. Not quite neutral. Just rephrase it a little, all right? 128.72.27.20 ( talk) 23:31, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
This article lists cause of death as " Murder". This was NOT the "cause" of death, nor was it the "manner" of death. Cause of death was fatal stab wounds to the neck, chest and abdomen. Manner of death was " homicide". Murder is unlawful killing with malice aforethought (a homicide wherein the perpetrator has formed an intent to kill the victim, as opposed to " manslaughter", wherein said intent is lacking. See linked Wiki articles.) Sourse: Turvey, Brent E., "An Overview of the Medicolegal Evidence Regarding: The State of California v. Orenthal James Simpson, Case: BA097211". Knowledge Solutions, LLC, February 1995.
I corrected "Cause of death", but for reasons unknown to me, I couldn't get "Manner of death" to show in the text box. (I inserted "death_manner" under "death_cause" in the source code, but to no effect.)
Cheers, Rico402 ( talk) 12:36, 15 August 2013 (UTC)