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I see that I have recreated a page that has been thrice deleted in the past. However my links are new and please don't delete this page and redirect it back to the Medieval Warm Period without discussion at least as it is clearly a different subject. I am not sure which categories to add this page to. Smokey TheCat 04:03, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
I believe this article needs revision by somebody with relevant expertise - at least some of the linked peer-reviewed articles do not appear at first glance to be particularly relevant, and many of the other links are not to reputable sources. 58.175.113.40 ( talk) 23:41, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
I've removed one or two references that didn't check out, and added a qualifier--the evidence is regional rather than global. I'm in some doubt as to reference 1, which appears to be a conflation of two separate references, neither of which is much use on paleoclimatology. -- TS 23:59, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Why is there no "Minoan Warm Period" wikipedia page ?? The "Minoan Warm Period" is known to have occured around 1000 BC Minoan Warm Period 3000 years ago Roman Warm Period 2000 years ago Mideval Warm Period 1000 years ago Modern Warm period, like now. P.S. RealClimate you must be joking — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.35.137.69 ( talk) 20:01, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Have removed this: Temperatures were approximately 1 degree Celsius warmer than today, according to a study of tree ring data.ref name=Esper>"
No wonder the Romans could go out in togas during winter", Daily Mail (London), July 12, 2012
Jan Esper, David C. Frank, Mauri Timonen, Eduardo Zorita, Rob J. S. Wilson, Jürg Luterbacher, Steffen Holzkämper, Nils Fischer, Sebastian Wagner, Daniel Nievergelt, Anne Verstege & Ulf Büntgen, "
Orbital forcing of tree-ring data", Nature Climate Change 2, 862–866 (2012) The Romans would have had to have been in Northern Scandinavia, and it's doubtful if temps there are that warm even today.
Better source. . .
dave souza,
talk
09:56, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
I've added formatted references (suitable for harvard referencing) to relevant studies, basically reconstructions covering the period. Ljungqvist Compared to other Reconstructions at SkepSci makes the comparison with Moberg et al. (2005) and Mann et al. (2008) showing a divergence of findings about the period, partly due to the different areas covered: the warming may have been mostly extratropical. AR4 is also included, the preceding section indicates that warming was earlier and regional, with nothing special known in the Roman era . . dave souza, talk 07:44, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
The historical references in this article are like gonzo journalism, and often entirely à propos of nothing. For example, the leading statement about Greece, which I've now read several times in an effort to understand how it relates to the topic, implies that the Roman Warm Period never happened. (I.e., that the climate in Greece during this period was the same as it is now.) Is it possible that someone stripped out a few necessary lines there?
The scientific data offered under Proxies (a term I don't understand in this context) is useful and on-point, but the rest of the article reads like a stack of shuffled index cards. Could someone familiar with this thesis impose a parseable narrative on it? Laodah 01:34, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
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I see that I have recreated a page that has been thrice deleted in the past. However my links are new and please don't delete this page and redirect it back to the Medieval Warm Period without discussion at least as it is clearly a different subject. I am not sure which categories to add this page to. Smokey TheCat 04:03, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
I believe this article needs revision by somebody with relevant expertise - at least some of the linked peer-reviewed articles do not appear at first glance to be particularly relevant, and many of the other links are not to reputable sources. 58.175.113.40 ( talk) 23:41, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
I've removed one or two references that didn't check out, and added a qualifier--the evidence is regional rather than global. I'm in some doubt as to reference 1, which appears to be a conflation of two separate references, neither of which is much use on paleoclimatology. -- TS 23:59, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Why is there no "Minoan Warm Period" wikipedia page ?? The "Minoan Warm Period" is known to have occured around 1000 BC Minoan Warm Period 3000 years ago Roman Warm Period 2000 years ago Mideval Warm Period 1000 years ago Modern Warm period, like now. P.S. RealClimate you must be joking — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.35.137.69 ( talk) 20:01, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Have removed this: Temperatures were approximately 1 degree Celsius warmer than today, according to a study of tree ring data.ref name=Esper>"
No wonder the Romans could go out in togas during winter", Daily Mail (London), July 12, 2012
Jan Esper, David C. Frank, Mauri Timonen, Eduardo Zorita, Rob J. S. Wilson, Jürg Luterbacher, Steffen Holzkämper, Nils Fischer, Sebastian Wagner, Daniel Nievergelt, Anne Verstege & Ulf Büntgen, "
Orbital forcing of tree-ring data", Nature Climate Change 2, 862–866 (2012) The Romans would have had to have been in Northern Scandinavia, and it's doubtful if temps there are that warm even today.
Better source. . .
dave souza,
talk
09:56, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
I've added formatted references (suitable for harvard referencing) to relevant studies, basically reconstructions covering the period. Ljungqvist Compared to other Reconstructions at SkepSci makes the comparison with Moberg et al. (2005) and Mann et al. (2008) showing a divergence of findings about the period, partly due to the different areas covered: the warming may have been mostly extratropical. AR4 is also included, the preceding section indicates that warming was earlier and regional, with nothing special known in the Roman era . . dave souza, talk 07:44, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
The historical references in this article are like gonzo journalism, and often entirely à propos of nothing. For example, the leading statement about Greece, which I've now read several times in an effort to understand how it relates to the topic, implies that the Roman Warm Period never happened. (I.e., that the climate in Greece during this period was the same as it is now.) Is it possible that someone stripped out a few necessary lines there?
The scientific data offered under Proxies (a term I don't understand in this context) is useful and on-point, but the rest of the article reads like a stack of shuffled index cards. Could someone familiar with this thesis impose a parseable narrative on it? Laodah 01:34, 19 April 2020 (UTC)