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The result of the move request was: moved DrStrauss talk 17:49, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Rolls-Royce Phantom (2017) →
Rolls-Royce Phantom (2018) – Automobiles in this era are now entering 2018 model year. It would be unnecessary to make this 2017 because they are going to produce the model in late 2017, like starting right now. Only necessary if this started in early 2017, but it's almost 2018 so vehicles are entering the 2018 generation.
Prodigy55 (
talk) 19:36, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Prodigy55 (
talk) 19:36, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
In order to avoid an edit war I've created this section to help decide the contents of the introductory section of this article.
I believe the intro I first submitted at 17:02 on the 9th of September (799753090), and again at 11:58 on the 1st of October (803252075) should stand. These correct what I believe to be several errors with the current version of the intro section, which I outline below.
* Inclusion of "British" in the description: A car's nationality is not defined, and in the case of the VIII Phantom is particularly hard to judge. Rolls-Royce may be a British brand but it's owned by a German company, has a German chief executive (Torsten Müller-Ötvös), and most of the car is actually produced (body-in-white, V12 engine and more) outside of Great Britain. In light of all this, no nationality should be mentioned.
* Use of "handmade" in the description: handmade is an ill-defined and woolly term: at its worst it's a cynical marketing buzzword. Either way, it has no place in the article.
* "large": the fact that this a large car is advised in the infobox where the car's class (Full-size luxury car (F)) is noted. Noting this fact in the intro section is unnecessary and awkward-sounding duplication.
* "BMW-era" is unclear: The "BMW-era" does not meet Wikipedia's standards for clarity and the provision of appropriate context; it only makes sense to someone with a specialised knowledge of the car industry. "... launched by Rolls-Royce under BMW ownership" is much clearer.
* "launched on 13 July": This is a) demonstrably false and b) too precise for the intro section. The car's precise (and correct) launch date is advised in the "Launch" section.
* "Bonham's house in Mayfair, London": Too much info for the intro section, this fact is later mentioned in the "Launch" section.
* The current revision contains no full-stop at the end of the last sentence.
Both of my aforementioned revisions were reverted by unregistered users who did not leave edit summaries. This may be a sign that these were acts of vandalism.
Either way, I hope there's agreement that the current page version (803274336) should not be retained, and that the page should be reverted to 803252075.
ReverseLevity ( talk) 15:39, 2 October 2017 (UTC)ReverseLevity
I added some facts in the start of this article. but I added them with references supported, I even added the reference coming from the real mouth of Rolls Royce's ceo, when that user ReverseLevity randomly kept removing content for no reason, just because his personally reason that he doesn't like it being British. despite the facts it is a British car — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.10.55.193 ( talk) 17:31, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
This car is a British car made, designed by 2 British car designers Giles Taylor and Alex Innes, and made in the United Kingdom fully British car made.
BMW may have largest shareholder in the company but That doesn't make the company or car not British.
Rolls Royce Motor is still classified as a British company since it's a UK based registered company, having the only one Headquarter in the UK, located in West Sussex, England, no where else. It a British car made in the first place, designed and only made in the United Kingdom by the British
Rolls Royce Motor only has 1 factory in this world Which is located in Goodwood, West Sussex, England, where all Rolls Royce cars are being built. BMW X6 is not even American design, BMW X6s are not only made in America they are also made in Asia. but BMW X6 is still a German car. Just like Toyota which has its largest factories in Malaysia and China but still Toyotas are not Malaysian or Chinese, They are Japanese cars — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
58.10.55.193 (
talk) 18:18, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
That's just only a dealership in America, they have nothing to do with making cars, all they do is sell cars. and The sticker has to be from the Rolls Royce Motor headquarter which only has 1 in England. and That sticker is not even a sticker of this model. Every Rolls Royce models have badges that say "Hand built in Gooowood. England and this is for 2018 Phantom https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/content/dam/rollsroyce-website/Phantom_2017/15.ENGINE.jpg.rr.1366.MED.jpg https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/en-GB/phantom-ewb.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.10.55.193 ( talk) 07:39, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Talk:Rolls-Royce Phantom (2018)/GA1
Two actually, unfortunately in what I regard as a disastrous coulor scheme but of a much better quality as compared to the old one. Which one do you prefer?
Toasted Meter ( talk) 10:22, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Is there any source to call it this way. Rolls-Royce seems to call it Phantom, without Roman numeral. Hektor ( talk) 14:17, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Design directors are responsible for selecting designs not making new ones, the Designer field is for those who designed the car not those who selected the design. Toasted Meter ( talk) 00:38, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
under 'specifications' on the four-wheel steering-thingamajig, i saw manoeuvrability or at least something like that as i was reading through, so i just fixed it to maneuverability. just saying -- in case someone is wondering what i edited exactly. Mashujesuro ( talk) 20:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Rolls-Royce Phantom VIII was nominated as a Engineering and technology good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (January 19, 2018). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||
|
The result of the move request was: moved DrStrauss talk 17:49, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Rolls-Royce Phantom (2017) →
Rolls-Royce Phantom (2018) – Automobiles in this era are now entering 2018 model year. It would be unnecessary to make this 2017 because they are going to produce the model in late 2017, like starting right now. Only necessary if this started in early 2017, but it's almost 2018 so vehicles are entering the 2018 generation.
Prodigy55 (
talk) 19:36, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Prodigy55 (
talk) 19:36, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
In order to avoid an edit war I've created this section to help decide the contents of the introductory section of this article.
I believe the intro I first submitted at 17:02 on the 9th of September (799753090), and again at 11:58 on the 1st of October (803252075) should stand. These correct what I believe to be several errors with the current version of the intro section, which I outline below.
* Inclusion of "British" in the description: A car's nationality is not defined, and in the case of the VIII Phantom is particularly hard to judge. Rolls-Royce may be a British brand but it's owned by a German company, has a German chief executive (Torsten Müller-Ötvös), and most of the car is actually produced (body-in-white, V12 engine and more) outside of Great Britain. In light of all this, no nationality should be mentioned.
* Use of "handmade" in the description: handmade is an ill-defined and woolly term: at its worst it's a cynical marketing buzzword. Either way, it has no place in the article.
* "large": the fact that this a large car is advised in the infobox where the car's class (Full-size luxury car (F)) is noted. Noting this fact in the intro section is unnecessary and awkward-sounding duplication.
* "BMW-era" is unclear: The "BMW-era" does not meet Wikipedia's standards for clarity and the provision of appropriate context; it only makes sense to someone with a specialised knowledge of the car industry. "... launched by Rolls-Royce under BMW ownership" is much clearer.
* "launched on 13 July": This is a) demonstrably false and b) too precise for the intro section. The car's precise (and correct) launch date is advised in the "Launch" section.
* "Bonham's house in Mayfair, London": Too much info for the intro section, this fact is later mentioned in the "Launch" section.
* The current revision contains no full-stop at the end of the last sentence.
Both of my aforementioned revisions were reverted by unregistered users who did not leave edit summaries. This may be a sign that these were acts of vandalism.
Either way, I hope there's agreement that the current page version (803274336) should not be retained, and that the page should be reverted to 803252075.
ReverseLevity ( talk) 15:39, 2 October 2017 (UTC)ReverseLevity
I added some facts in the start of this article. but I added them with references supported, I even added the reference coming from the real mouth of Rolls Royce's ceo, when that user ReverseLevity randomly kept removing content for no reason, just because his personally reason that he doesn't like it being British. despite the facts it is a British car — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.10.55.193 ( talk) 17:31, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
This car is a British car made, designed by 2 British car designers Giles Taylor and Alex Innes, and made in the United Kingdom fully British car made.
BMW may have largest shareholder in the company but That doesn't make the company or car not British.
Rolls Royce Motor is still classified as a British company since it's a UK based registered company, having the only one Headquarter in the UK, located in West Sussex, England, no where else. It a British car made in the first place, designed and only made in the United Kingdom by the British
Rolls Royce Motor only has 1 factory in this world Which is located in Goodwood, West Sussex, England, where all Rolls Royce cars are being built. BMW X6 is not even American design, BMW X6s are not only made in America they are also made in Asia. but BMW X6 is still a German car. Just like Toyota which has its largest factories in Malaysia and China but still Toyotas are not Malaysian or Chinese, They are Japanese cars — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
58.10.55.193 (
talk) 18:18, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
That's just only a dealership in America, they have nothing to do with making cars, all they do is sell cars. and The sticker has to be from the Rolls Royce Motor headquarter which only has 1 in England. and That sticker is not even a sticker of this model. Every Rolls Royce models have badges that say "Hand built in Gooowood. England and this is for 2018 Phantom https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/content/dam/rollsroyce-website/Phantom_2017/15.ENGINE.jpg.rr.1366.MED.jpg https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/en-GB/phantom-ewb.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.10.55.193 ( talk) 07:39, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Talk:Rolls-Royce Phantom (2018)/GA1
Two actually, unfortunately in what I regard as a disastrous coulor scheme but of a much better quality as compared to the old one. Which one do you prefer?
Toasted Meter ( talk) 10:22, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Is there any source to call it this way. Rolls-Royce seems to call it Phantom, without Roman numeral. Hektor ( talk) 14:17, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Design directors are responsible for selecting designs not making new ones, the Designer field is for those who designed the car not those who selected the design. Toasted Meter ( talk) 00:38, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
under 'specifications' on the four-wheel steering-thingamajig, i saw manoeuvrability or at least something like that as i was reading through, so i just fixed it to maneuverability. just saying -- in case someone is wondering what i edited exactly. Mashujesuro ( talk) 20:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)