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don't understand how lying prone would shift weight to the rear wheel; it would help equalize weight front-to-back. lying supine would shift weight rearward, tho i wouldn't try it, especially at speed.
Here is a link to the picture referred to in the article: http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/newsphoto/RollieFree(2)9(1).jpg. I am a novice Wiki submitter, but I don't think the photo can be posted here without permission. But follow the link and all will be made clear. Free rode with his body supported over the rear half of the bike, legs sticking out back. His body mass was supported just slightly forward of the rear axle, thereby maximizing rear wheel traction. tx. pix is helpful. No problem. Fixed the link to the Motorcycle Hall of Fame museum. Ridenm 04:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
If not, maybe you should indicate when it was broken. Also, was it the land speed record for motorcycles only or for all vehicles? Cheers. — SteveRwanda 11:02, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Plus, there are so many classes for both bikes and cars competing for speed records (e.g., displacement, aspiration, fuel, etc.) that only the overall record is easily documented, and such an article would be a pain to maintain. Ridenm 04:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Is it the story which "The world fastest indian" movie is inspired by?
The first sentence of the entry gives the year of death as 1980. The last sentence of the entry gives the year of death as 1984. Xjljqfejb 04:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
We need to verify the sale of the Bathing Suit Bike. The Vintagent says the bike was 'rumored' to have sold for US$ 1.1 million, not $1 million. [1]. But text here written by Herb Harris implies that he as of 2011 he still owns it, so didn't sell it in 2010. This LA Times mention says Harris did bring 3 bikes to Quail, but not necessarily that one? Meaning the new owner brought it? If a record-setting sale of over 1 million took place, why the lack of news?
Prior to the sale, if any, there is much more detail on the racing, provenance, ownership disputes, and restoration of the John Edgar Lighting in Wasef, Basem; Leno, Jay (2007), Legendary Motorcycles: The Stories and Bikes Made Famous by Elvis, Peter Fonda, Kenny Roberts and Other Motorcycling Greats, MotorBooks International, pp. 34–39, ISBN 0760330700, retrieved 2011-08-13. See also The Vincent in the Barn: Great Stories of Motorcycle Archaeology By Tom Cotter, David Edwards, for more coverage of the Gunga Din bike, apparently owned by Paul Pflugfelder of Concord, Massachusetts in 2009 [2].-- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 14:54, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
I've read that Rollie Free physically rode this bike from LA to Bonneville. He took off the headlights, the seat, the front brake (although I haven't exactly figured out how one takes off a front break) and wrapped the girder forks with electrical tape to improve aerodynamics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.84.252.13 ( talk) 00:05, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I've changed the caption dating from 2006, previously stating "his unique riding position", and the prose to suit, adding an historic image as a citation that WP:AGF dictates we accept from a WP:RS as depicting March 1948, pre-dating Free's image by six months.
When I was researching the background of this bike earlier in January 2018, I unearthed in the house a 1967 mention that this riding style was first used by Bert le Vack's sidecar passenger from a 1924 record-setting run, who also rode solo.-- Rocknrollmancer ( talk) 04:43, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
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don't understand how lying prone would shift weight to the rear wheel; it would help equalize weight front-to-back. lying supine would shift weight rearward, tho i wouldn't try it, especially at speed.
Here is a link to the picture referred to in the article: http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/newsphoto/RollieFree(2)9(1).jpg. I am a novice Wiki submitter, but I don't think the photo can be posted here without permission. But follow the link and all will be made clear. Free rode with his body supported over the rear half of the bike, legs sticking out back. His body mass was supported just slightly forward of the rear axle, thereby maximizing rear wheel traction. tx. pix is helpful. No problem. Fixed the link to the Motorcycle Hall of Fame museum. Ridenm 04:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
If not, maybe you should indicate when it was broken. Also, was it the land speed record for motorcycles only or for all vehicles? Cheers. — SteveRwanda 11:02, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Plus, there are so many classes for both bikes and cars competing for speed records (e.g., displacement, aspiration, fuel, etc.) that only the overall record is easily documented, and such an article would be a pain to maintain. Ridenm 04:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Is it the story which "The world fastest indian" movie is inspired by?
The first sentence of the entry gives the year of death as 1980. The last sentence of the entry gives the year of death as 1984. Xjljqfejb 04:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
We need to verify the sale of the Bathing Suit Bike. The Vintagent says the bike was 'rumored' to have sold for US$ 1.1 million, not $1 million. [1]. But text here written by Herb Harris implies that he as of 2011 he still owns it, so didn't sell it in 2010. This LA Times mention says Harris did bring 3 bikes to Quail, but not necessarily that one? Meaning the new owner brought it? If a record-setting sale of over 1 million took place, why the lack of news?
Prior to the sale, if any, there is much more detail on the racing, provenance, ownership disputes, and restoration of the John Edgar Lighting in Wasef, Basem; Leno, Jay (2007), Legendary Motorcycles: The Stories and Bikes Made Famous by Elvis, Peter Fonda, Kenny Roberts and Other Motorcycling Greats, MotorBooks International, pp. 34–39, ISBN 0760330700, retrieved 2011-08-13. See also The Vincent in the Barn: Great Stories of Motorcycle Archaeology By Tom Cotter, David Edwards, for more coverage of the Gunga Din bike, apparently owned by Paul Pflugfelder of Concord, Massachusetts in 2009 [2].-- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 14:54, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
I've read that Rollie Free physically rode this bike from LA to Bonneville. He took off the headlights, the seat, the front brake (although I haven't exactly figured out how one takes off a front break) and wrapped the girder forks with electrical tape to improve aerodynamics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.84.252.13 ( talk) 00:05, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I've changed the caption dating from 2006, previously stating "his unique riding position", and the prose to suit, adding an historic image as a citation that WP:AGF dictates we accept from a WP:RS as depicting March 1948, pre-dating Free's image by six months.
When I was researching the background of this bike earlier in January 2018, I unearthed in the house a 1967 mention that this riding style was first used by Bert le Vack's sidecar passenger from a 1924 record-setting run, who also rode solo.-- Rocknrollmancer ( talk) 04:43, 30 January 2018 (UTC)