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In my opinion, this article should focus on elements that appear in a wide range of coasters. In other words, common ones. One-of-a-kind elements that may appear on just one or two rides should really be discussed on their respective ride's articles. For example, one editor recently attempted to add the helix element from Shambhala: Expedición al Himalaya to the article; while B&M has apparently given the element a name, Shambhala is the only ride to feature it. As such, it should be in that ride's article alone for now. If B&M start adding it to many other future designs (something they have yet to do on their hypers), then perhaps. Opinions? -- McDoob AU 93 18:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
This article uses the term "camelback hill" two times, and the term "camelback" (without "hill") four times. From the context, it would seem that a camelback and/or a camelback hill is probably a roller-coaster element, but oddly it is never defined on this page.
There is no article on it either. Camelback hill redirects to Air time, and yet that article never uses the term "camelback" except in a photo caption, and offers no definition of it. The redirect made me think that maybe a camelback hill is a hill that causes zero-G or negative-G to the riders, but the caption seems to indicate that the situation is more complex than that. Camelback is a disambiguation page which doesn't seem to have any options related to rollercoasters.
If a camelback and/or a camelback hill is a roller-coaster element, I suggest that someone should create a Roller coaster elements#Camelback hill section for this article! If it's not, I suggest that it be defined. I have been riding roller coasters all my life but have never heard of this term. I know that camels have one hump or two, so maybe a camelback hill is a hill with two humps? I'm guessing a camelback and a camelback hill are the same thing, but that's just a guess. — Lawrence King ( talk) 01:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Just dropping a note here that moving this page to "List of roller coaster elements" may be more appropriate based on its current format. We could then put everything into charts, with each one belonging in a particular category (i.e. Inverting elements), to make it easier to link to subsections closer to the element name. For example, we would keep the "Inverting elements" section, and a link like Batwing (roller coaster element) would redirect directly to that section. I may start working on this over the next few months. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 20:19, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
There isn't any source cited for using that term, and I can't find any information about this term being used. Twisted Cyclone's element is described by the manufacturer as a "reverse cobra roll," [1] but other than the name, matches the text's description of the element. Kondaa's is described by the manufacturer as a "non inverting cobra roll," [2] which doesn't contain the two heartline rolls that the text describes nor does it invert at all, and therefore belongs under non-inverting elements. I'm making a new section for Non-Inverting Cobra Roll under Non-Inverting elements, and unless I can find a citation for Inside Out Cobra Roll, change the name to Reverse Cobra Roll -- Alaskabear41 ( talk) 18:53, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
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As a person who visits this article multiple times a week, I find it unnecessary to add things that are unique to only one coaster, such as the "demonic knot." Maybe we should delete these parts? I say yes. -- RusherLeBFDIFan ( talk) 15:21, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Maybe that element will appear tomorrow on a new coaster. Maybe a new manufacturer will give it a different name." – Wikipedia isn't a collection of all that "exists" ( WP:INDISCRIMINATE). If and when something rises to prominence and receives ample coverage in reliable sources, then Wikipedia would have reason to cover it. Minor details and aspects are often left out. Encyclopedias are not databases. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 02:48, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Has anyone actually ever heard this term used? I do not know anyone or any publication that has ever referred to a pre-drop as a tester or trick hill. It was apparently added back in 2010 by an IP editor who had a habit of adding a lot of unsourced material, much of which has been undone or deleted. Others have changed the wording a bit over the years, but no one seems to have ever questioned the term. If there are no objections, I would like to rename this section pre-drop, which is how it is defined on the Bolliger & Mabillard page. —JlACEer ( talk) 20:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
I couldn't find mouse turns in there, although they are quite common. Or are they listed under a different name?
(Mouse turns are sharp turns, where the train feels like it's going off track.)
Mia 2A02:810D:A8C0:1EC:F5EA:7FDE:A187:7BC1 ( talk) 03:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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In my opinion, this article should focus on elements that appear in a wide range of coasters. In other words, common ones. One-of-a-kind elements that may appear on just one or two rides should really be discussed on their respective ride's articles. For example, one editor recently attempted to add the helix element from Shambhala: Expedición al Himalaya to the article; while B&M has apparently given the element a name, Shambhala is the only ride to feature it. As such, it should be in that ride's article alone for now. If B&M start adding it to many other future designs (something they have yet to do on their hypers), then perhaps. Opinions? -- McDoob AU 93 18:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
This article uses the term "camelback hill" two times, and the term "camelback" (without "hill") four times. From the context, it would seem that a camelback and/or a camelback hill is probably a roller-coaster element, but oddly it is never defined on this page.
There is no article on it either. Camelback hill redirects to Air time, and yet that article never uses the term "camelback" except in a photo caption, and offers no definition of it. The redirect made me think that maybe a camelback hill is a hill that causes zero-G or negative-G to the riders, but the caption seems to indicate that the situation is more complex than that. Camelback is a disambiguation page which doesn't seem to have any options related to rollercoasters.
If a camelback and/or a camelback hill is a roller-coaster element, I suggest that someone should create a Roller coaster elements#Camelback hill section for this article! If it's not, I suggest that it be defined. I have been riding roller coasters all my life but have never heard of this term. I know that camels have one hump or two, so maybe a camelback hill is a hill with two humps? I'm guessing a camelback and a camelback hill are the same thing, but that's just a guess. — Lawrence King ( talk) 01:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Just dropping a note here that moving this page to "List of roller coaster elements" may be more appropriate based on its current format. We could then put everything into charts, with each one belonging in a particular category (i.e. Inverting elements), to make it easier to link to subsections closer to the element name. For example, we would keep the "Inverting elements" section, and a link like Batwing (roller coaster element) would redirect directly to that section. I may start working on this over the next few months. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 20:19, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
There isn't any source cited for using that term, and I can't find any information about this term being used. Twisted Cyclone's element is described by the manufacturer as a "reverse cobra roll," [1] but other than the name, matches the text's description of the element. Kondaa's is described by the manufacturer as a "non inverting cobra roll," [2] which doesn't contain the two heartline rolls that the text describes nor does it invert at all, and therefore belongs under non-inverting elements. I'm making a new section for Non-Inverting Cobra Roll under Non-Inverting elements, and unless I can find a citation for Inside Out Cobra Roll, change the name to Reverse Cobra Roll -- Alaskabear41 ( talk) 18:53, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
References
As a person who visits this article multiple times a week, I find it unnecessary to add things that are unique to only one coaster, such as the "demonic knot." Maybe we should delete these parts? I say yes. -- RusherLeBFDIFan ( talk) 15:21, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Maybe that element will appear tomorrow on a new coaster. Maybe a new manufacturer will give it a different name." – Wikipedia isn't a collection of all that "exists" ( WP:INDISCRIMINATE). If and when something rises to prominence and receives ample coverage in reliable sources, then Wikipedia would have reason to cover it. Minor details and aspects are often left out. Encyclopedias are not databases. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 02:48, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Has anyone actually ever heard this term used? I do not know anyone or any publication that has ever referred to a pre-drop as a tester or trick hill. It was apparently added back in 2010 by an IP editor who had a habit of adding a lot of unsourced material, much of which has been undone or deleted. Others have changed the wording a bit over the years, but no one seems to have ever questioned the term. If there are no objections, I would like to rename this section pre-drop, which is how it is defined on the Bolliger & Mabillard page. —JlACEer ( talk) 20:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
I couldn't find mouse turns in there, although they are quite common. Or are they listed under a different name?
(Mouse turns are sharp turns, where the train feels like it's going off track.)
Mia 2A02:810D:A8C0:1EC:F5EA:7FDE:A187:7BC1 ( talk) 03:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)