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Much of what is written in the "Commentary on the conflict" section are personal opinions from editors, made after reading from cited "academic sources". The policies and statements made by the government mentioned in the seciton are also outdated. I propose either removing the section entirely, or rewriting it so we only include statements from experts on the topic and from government officials. CentreLeftRight ✉ 01:13, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Keeping in line with the existing articles for the ethnic Kachin conflict and Karen conflict. It would be appropriate to merge the article to ' Rohingya conflict'. The current topic severely limits the scope of the article, and may not be in line with the principles of WP:NPOV.
Some in the past have already debated the "insurgency" vs "rebellion" question. While judging by these discussions, the titling has been used to exclude any extensive background on the conflict as a whole, or any activities by the opposing side (military junta), et al. DA1 ( talk) 08:09, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
May another editor add information on the human rights violations and sectarian violence in Rakhine State? I believe the consensus was that this page should not focus only on insurgent activity as it removes context from the page. If anyone does accept my request, remember not to copy and paste information from Northern Rakhine State clashes#Human rights violations as that would defeat the purpose. A summary of these two important subjects should at least be included on this page in my opinion. – GeneralAdmiralAladeen ( Têkilî min) 21:11, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
The conflict between the Arakanese Muslims and Rakhine Buddhists has been going on since the start of Japanese invasion. I think 1942 should be the start year. MonsterHunter32 ( talk) 18:36, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
see List of war crimes, where some of the alleged war crimes should be included. i put in a link there. Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 08:02, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Question for
CentreLeftRight about your revert of
my edit.
According to your
edit summary "The intro/lead is already too big", yet you have separate paragraphs for insurgent attacks less than a year apart (October/November 2016 and August 2017). Mention of U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights report criticizing the Myanmar military is limited to one sanitized sentence in the same paragraph about the 2017 insurgent attack.
Why nothing about 43,000 Rohingya parents " presumed dead in the six months since Myanmar’s military unleashed a crackdown last August"? http://time.com/5187292/rohingya-crisis-missing-parents-refugees-bangladesh/ -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 18:35, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
I have tried to fix the problem with this edit. -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 18:51, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
I recently read a few of the academic sources cited in this article (particularly when talking about the Rohingya before the 21st century) and noticed a few major discrepancies. Moshe Yegar does not state in his work that the Rohingya movements active from 1947 to the 1980s were " separatist", but rather that they wanted an autonomous zone. A compromise was made in 1961: the Mayu Frontier District. Nowhere in the sources given, does it state that Rohingyas wanted to create a separate state from Myanmar, or that it even considered the prospect of a Rohingya nation that early on. I suspect this is a modern revisionist interpretation of the events in this period, as "separatist" is a label that carries a lot of weight and should not be given to movements lightly. I have not found records that any Rohingya movement (again, during this period specifically) challenged the sovereignty of Myanmar, but rather that they largely wanted an autonomous zone to freely coexist within inside the country. I also do not think reports made by the Burmese military (i.e. SLORC's MoI) and articles from magazines with the title "The Danger of Rohingya" are reliable, non-POV sources. CentreLeftRight ✉ 07:34, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
The article gives ample space to quotations from that UN OHCHR report. That report is entirely based on 65 interviews conducted with Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh, and input from unspecified local respondents from Organizations working there.
This should be mentioned as context in the article. Wefa ( talk) 14:35, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
In addition to that I was not able to locate the four quotes in the article attributed to that report in the linked report document. Could someone please point me to the pages where they can be found? Wefa ( talk) 14:48, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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Much of what is written in the "Commentary on the conflict" section are personal opinions from editors, made after reading from cited "academic sources". The policies and statements made by the government mentioned in the seciton are also outdated. I propose either removing the section entirely, or rewriting it so we only include statements from experts on the topic and from government officials. CentreLeftRight ✉ 01:13, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Keeping in line with the existing articles for the ethnic Kachin conflict and Karen conflict. It would be appropriate to merge the article to ' Rohingya conflict'. The current topic severely limits the scope of the article, and may not be in line with the principles of WP:NPOV.
Some in the past have already debated the "insurgency" vs "rebellion" question. While judging by these discussions, the titling has been used to exclude any extensive background on the conflict as a whole, or any activities by the opposing side (military junta), et al. DA1 ( talk) 08:09, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
May another editor add information on the human rights violations and sectarian violence in Rakhine State? I believe the consensus was that this page should not focus only on insurgent activity as it removes context from the page. If anyone does accept my request, remember not to copy and paste information from Northern Rakhine State clashes#Human rights violations as that would defeat the purpose. A summary of these two important subjects should at least be included on this page in my opinion. – GeneralAdmiralAladeen ( Têkilî min) 21:11, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
The conflict between the Arakanese Muslims and Rakhine Buddhists has been going on since the start of Japanese invasion. I think 1942 should be the start year. MonsterHunter32 ( talk) 18:36, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
see List of war crimes, where some of the alleged war crimes should be included. i put in a link there. Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 08:02, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Question for
CentreLeftRight about your revert of
my edit.
According to your
edit summary "The intro/lead is already too big", yet you have separate paragraphs for insurgent attacks less than a year apart (October/November 2016 and August 2017). Mention of U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights report criticizing the Myanmar military is limited to one sanitized sentence in the same paragraph about the 2017 insurgent attack.
Why nothing about 43,000 Rohingya parents " presumed dead in the six months since Myanmar’s military unleashed a crackdown last August"? http://time.com/5187292/rohingya-crisis-missing-parents-refugees-bangladesh/ -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 18:35, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
I have tried to fix the problem with this edit. -- BoogaLouie ( talk) 18:51, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
I recently read a few of the academic sources cited in this article (particularly when talking about the Rohingya before the 21st century) and noticed a few major discrepancies. Moshe Yegar does not state in his work that the Rohingya movements active from 1947 to the 1980s were " separatist", but rather that they wanted an autonomous zone. A compromise was made in 1961: the Mayu Frontier District. Nowhere in the sources given, does it state that Rohingyas wanted to create a separate state from Myanmar, or that it even considered the prospect of a Rohingya nation that early on. I suspect this is a modern revisionist interpretation of the events in this period, as "separatist" is a label that carries a lot of weight and should not be given to movements lightly. I have not found records that any Rohingya movement (again, during this period specifically) challenged the sovereignty of Myanmar, but rather that they largely wanted an autonomous zone to freely coexist within inside the country. I also do not think reports made by the Burmese military (i.e. SLORC's MoI) and articles from magazines with the title "The Danger of Rohingya" are reliable, non-POV sources. CentreLeftRight ✉ 07:34, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
The article gives ample space to quotations from that UN OHCHR report. That report is entirely based on 65 interviews conducted with Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh, and input from unspecified local respondents from Organizations working there.
This should be mentioned as context in the article. Wefa ( talk) 14:35, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
In addition to that I was not able to locate the four quotes in the article attributed to that report in the linked report document. Could someone please point me to the pages where they can be found? Wefa ( talk) 14:48, 4 October 2020 (UTC)