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WHY HAVE YOU DELETED THIS ARTICLE???!!! RYAN SEACREST CONFIRMED ON AMERICAN IDOL IT WAS RIHANNA'S NEXT SINGLE! Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 15:48, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
For a song to be notable for its own page it needs:
Since this song has none of those and there is only one source stating its release as a single (allegedly it was confirmed on american idol though there are no sources to confirm this the page has been redirected to it's album. Any reversion of this edit would be in breach of WP:crystal, WP:notability (music) and lack verifiable information. Lil-unique1 ( talk) 18:04, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
It HAS got a confirmed radio release date of May 18, 2010 on mainstream pop radio in the U.S.
Plus, why is Speechless by Lady GaGa an article if it hasnt got a release date?? This is not fair because Rockstar 101 by Rihanna has been confirmed for mainstream pop radio release in the U.S. for May 18, 2010 but no it hasn't got an article has it?!! Make up your mind wikipedia! If Speechless is kept then a Rockstar 101 page should be created! Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 12:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
As you've mentioned those involved in reverting the article i will say this. I've previously reverted this article because WP:NSONGS clearly states that notability is more than just about charting or recieving independent coverage. It clearly states "Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article". No what i don't understand is why people can't seem to comprehend the fact that charting or having a video filmed does not make a single notable. Lady Gaga articles like Speechless (Lady Gaga song) have an extensive volume to them. This really has nothing to do with preferring one artist over another. Lil-unique1 ( talk) 20:59, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I do understand your frustration and i respect your point of view. It is unfair how the current guidelines do leave it down to interpretation. If you look at the talk page of WP:NSONGS i did try to campaign for clearer guidelines but was shot down miserably with not ONE other user supporting the idea to clarify the guidelines. I suggest you create the article at User:Vitorvicentevalente/Rockstar 101 and add to it as more information becomes available. Then let us know when you think its notable and we can let you know and advise you accordingly. Lil-unique1 ( talk) 21:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
oh my god why do you keep deleting the page now!! it now has a video clip which obviously proves it is a song! she wouldn't just release it for no reason would she!!?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iluvrihanna24 ( talk • contribs) 15:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
WP:NSONGS You should read it. Tbhotch Talk C. 15:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I really think it should be an article now as on Google News, all over it, there are posts about the video which is coverage by critics. A radio release is confirmed. A music video has been shot. What else? User:Iluvrihanna24/Rockstar 101. I have worked really hard on the article. Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 11:32, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Why is this article deleted when the results of the deleting discussion were "keep"??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.218.192.19 ( talk) 16:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I strongly think that the article should now be re-opened as ot has just charted on the Billboard Hot Dance Club Play Songs chart. Thankyou
82.19.248.157 ( talk) 00:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
← As it turns out the
Rockstar 101 (Rihanna song) version was developed from your sandbox version
User:Iluvrihanna24/Rockstar 101, which was in turn developed from the content of
Rockstar 101. All of that was done via copy&paste, which left a huge attribution mess.
All cleaned up now.
Amalthea 12:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Why does it say for radio add dates that the song is being released on June 14, 2010 because there is no source! Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 18:05, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I want this picture to be added in as the cover [ [2]] if the creator of this page allows so. I want it because this cover has the 'R' symbol which is oficially supposed to be on all the Rater R singles' covers. I want the opinion of others also about this image. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Syedwaheedhussain ( talk • contribs) 10:15, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Please check this image. [ [3]] It maybe the cover. Please reconsider them even if you are not satisfied because the Rated R's special "R" is on these images. Syedwaheedhussain ( talk) 15:49, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
So is the present cover the correct one. Syedwaheedhussain ( talk) 07:56, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
I swear people are getting away with vandalising this page! First someone deletes the charts section and says it needs expansion and then this! Why at the top of the page does it have 2 attention signs when there is no need. How is the intro too short? iIt's the same length as any other single introduction! stop being fussy wikipedia!! Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 16:14, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Please can people stop reverting my edits because they are fine! I took out the information history of the chart performance and put it into a new Chart performance section lie any other single article! It shouldn't have the chart history in the Charts section it should just have the charts it charted on in the table! 82.24.227.215 ( talk) 11:13, 7 August 2010 (UTC) Oh look! Someone's done it again what a surprise! WHY DO YOU KEEP REVERTING IT! IT NEEDS A SEPERATE SECTION!! and don't tell me off for shouting because i'm annoyed and i'm trying to get my point across and no there is no other way of doing it before you say that! Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 15:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
I swear wikipedia you are just picking on this article! you've put loads of citations in the charts section! why?! you don't make this much fuss with any other article! i changed the 'two weeks' bit and added 'it has peaked' but you just keep reverting it. It's like you've got one copy of this page and you're just sticking to it if anyone changes 1 thing! 82.24.227.215 ( talk) 10:18, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
I checked the source for the genre, and nowhere on it does it say what genre the song is. Ending-start ( talk · contribs) 00:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I fixed as many dead links as I could, but I really need help with this article. Does anyone want to help improving this? The fights over this article are epic, I don't want to step on any toes in my attempts to improve.-- mikomango ( talk) 18:36, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Is there really a guitar solo? I listened to this song many times, but I couldn't hear anything like this. -- Slay555pt ( talk) 22:08, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 13:37, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 16:23, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
not sure if this is needed, so I will put it here. The video received its UK TV premiere on 4Music on June 13, 2010. [1] Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 16:06, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
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Will start soon :) -- FeuDeJoie ( talk) 10:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
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Overall It's actually quite a good read, aside from the issues i've picked out. If you dont understand something I've written or want to contest anything, write on my talk page. Ta -- FeuDeJoie ( talk) 13:37, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
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When did the artwork change? There is no record of it in the history for this article. It used to be the one with "The Remixes" written on it, but now it's a proper single cover. Second opinions please! I've never seen the current cover before, and the old one (which seems more accurate because the digital remixes were released instead of just the single) seems to have been deleted? Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 22:10, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Here's the link to amzon.co.uk add to release history please?!.
The source cited for the metal genre states "guitar hero Slash provides a fuzzy backdrop of metal ambience". That sounds more like an tingey influence than a complete categorisation of the song into the metal genre (which is confusingly and somewhat WP:EASTEREGGily linked to heavy metal music but piped to "metal"). Adabow ( talk) 04:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
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WHY HAVE YOU DELETED THIS ARTICLE???!!! RYAN SEACREST CONFIRMED ON AMERICAN IDOL IT WAS RIHANNA'S NEXT SINGLE! Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 15:48, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
For a song to be notable for its own page it needs:
Since this song has none of those and there is only one source stating its release as a single (allegedly it was confirmed on american idol though there are no sources to confirm this the page has been redirected to it's album. Any reversion of this edit would be in breach of WP:crystal, WP:notability (music) and lack verifiable information. Lil-unique1 ( talk) 18:04, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
It HAS got a confirmed radio release date of May 18, 2010 on mainstream pop radio in the U.S.
Plus, why is Speechless by Lady GaGa an article if it hasnt got a release date?? This is not fair because Rockstar 101 by Rihanna has been confirmed for mainstream pop radio release in the U.S. for May 18, 2010 but no it hasn't got an article has it?!! Make up your mind wikipedia! If Speechless is kept then a Rockstar 101 page should be created! Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 12:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
As you've mentioned those involved in reverting the article i will say this. I've previously reverted this article because WP:NSONGS clearly states that notability is more than just about charting or recieving independent coverage. It clearly states "Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article". No what i don't understand is why people can't seem to comprehend the fact that charting or having a video filmed does not make a single notable. Lady Gaga articles like Speechless (Lady Gaga song) have an extensive volume to them. This really has nothing to do with preferring one artist over another. Lil-unique1 ( talk) 20:59, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I do understand your frustration and i respect your point of view. It is unfair how the current guidelines do leave it down to interpretation. If you look at the talk page of WP:NSONGS i did try to campaign for clearer guidelines but was shot down miserably with not ONE other user supporting the idea to clarify the guidelines. I suggest you create the article at User:Vitorvicentevalente/Rockstar 101 and add to it as more information becomes available. Then let us know when you think its notable and we can let you know and advise you accordingly. Lil-unique1 ( talk) 21:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
oh my god why do you keep deleting the page now!! it now has a video clip which obviously proves it is a song! she wouldn't just release it for no reason would she!!?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iluvrihanna24 ( talk • contribs) 15:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
WP:NSONGS You should read it. Tbhotch Talk C. 15:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I really think it should be an article now as on Google News, all over it, there are posts about the video which is coverage by critics. A radio release is confirmed. A music video has been shot. What else? User:Iluvrihanna24/Rockstar 101. I have worked really hard on the article. Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 11:32, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Why is this article deleted when the results of the deleting discussion were "keep"??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.218.192.19 ( talk) 16:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I strongly think that the article should now be re-opened as ot has just charted on the Billboard Hot Dance Club Play Songs chart. Thankyou
82.19.248.157 ( talk) 00:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
← As it turns out the
Rockstar 101 (Rihanna song) version was developed from your sandbox version
User:Iluvrihanna24/Rockstar 101, which was in turn developed from the content of
Rockstar 101. All of that was done via copy&paste, which left a huge attribution mess.
All cleaned up now.
Amalthea 12:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Why does it say for radio add dates that the song is being released on June 14, 2010 because there is no source! Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 18:05, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I want this picture to be added in as the cover [ [2]] if the creator of this page allows so. I want it because this cover has the 'R' symbol which is oficially supposed to be on all the Rater R singles' covers. I want the opinion of others also about this image. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Syedwaheedhussain ( talk • contribs) 10:15, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Please check this image. [ [3]] It maybe the cover. Please reconsider them even if you are not satisfied because the Rated R's special "R" is on these images. Syedwaheedhussain ( talk) 15:49, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
So is the present cover the correct one. Syedwaheedhussain ( talk) 07:56, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
I swear people are getting away with vandalising this page! First someone deletes the charts section and says it needs expansion and then this! Why at the top of the page does it have 2 attention signs when there is no need. How is the intro too short? iIt's the same length as any other single introduction! stop being fussy wikipedia!! Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 16:14, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Please can people stop reverting my edits because they are fine! I took out the information history of the chart performance and put it into a new Chart performance section lie any other single article! It shouldn't have the chart history in the Charts section it should just have the charts it charted on in the table! 82.24.227.215 ( talk) 11:13, 7 August 2010 (UTC) Oh look! Someone's done it again what a surprise! WHY DO YOU KEEP REVERTING IT! IT NEEDS A SEPERATE SECTION!! and don't tell me off for shouting because i'm annoyed and i'm trying to get my point across and no there is no other way of doing it before you say that! Iluvrihanna24 ( talk) 15:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
I swear wikipedia you are just picking on this article! you've put loads of citations in the charts section! why?! you don't make this much fuss with any other article! i changed the 'two weeks' bit and added 'it has peaked' but you just keep reverting it. It's like you've got one copy of this page and you're just sticking to it if anyone changes 1 thing! 82.24.227.215 ( talk) 10:18, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
I checked the source for the genre, and nowhere on it does it say what genre the song is. Ending-start ( talk · contribs) 00:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I fixed as many dead links as I could, but I really need help with this article. Does anyone want to help improving this? The fights over this article are epic, I don't want to step on any toes in my attempts to improve.-- mikomango ( talk) 18:36, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Is there really a guitar solo? I listened to this song many times, but I couldn't hear anything like this. -- Slay555pt ( talk) 22:08, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 13:37, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 16:23, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
not sure if this is needed, so I will put it here. The video received its UK TV premiere on 4Music on June 13, 2010. [1] Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 16:06, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
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Will start soon :) -- FeuDeJoie ( talk) 10:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Lead
Background and composition
Critical reception
Chart performance
Music video
Live performances
References
Overall It's actually quite a good read, aside from the issues i've picked out. If you dont understand something I've written or want to contest anything, write on my talk page. Ta -- FeuDeJoie ( talk) 13:37, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
References
When did the artwork change? There is no record of it in the history for this article. It used to be the one with "The Remixes" written on it, but now it's a proper single cover. Second opinions please! I've never seen the current cover before, and the old one (which seems more accurate because the digital remixes were released instead of just the single) seems to have been deleted? Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 22:10, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Here's the link to amzon.co.uk add to release history please?!.
The source cited for the metal genre states "guitar hero Slash provides a fuzzy backdrop of metal ambience". That sounds more like an tingey influence than a complete categorisation of the song into the metal genre (which is confusingly and somewhat WP:EASTEREGGily linked to heavy metal music but piped to "metal"). Adabow ( talk) 04:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)