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When I first expanded this article, the only usable software-codec target was the H1xx, so naturally all the stuff about supported codecs, etc went into that section. Now, however, there are lots of software-codec targets including the H1xx, H3xx, all the iPod models and the upcoming iAudio and iFP ports.
Therefore I think it'd be better to rework the article into at least two main sections, one on the hardware-codec Archos targets and one on software codec support (maybe one on the plugins too, since they are mostly cross-platform). After that we can have lists of supported devices and upcoming ports. I'll try and get to work on this over the next few days, barring any objections. -- Bk0 ( Talk) 17:19, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Since Rockbox is such a dynamic, fast moving project, I'm trying to avoid putting anything in the article that will go out of date quickly. This includes detailed progress reports on each port in development, as well as listing every minute feature that gets added or changed from day to day. In that spirit I've removed the recently added section on the H300 "optimized" patchset. I expect most of what it contains to eventually get merged into mainline, so there's not really a need to create a separate section now. Perhaps a sentence or two about it in the "Software decoding devices" section would be warranted. -- Bk0 ( Talk) 16:40, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
This Korean company is currently (April 2006) spelling its name as 'iriver' (with all lowercase letters) while they used to (conversion date unkown to this author) spell it 'iRiver' previously. The latter version is also printed on most of the actual physical music players people own and use "out there".
Hullo, I edited the article to use the new markup for notes. It numbers notes automagically, which is good, but it can get troublesome if a lot of unlabled external links are used, which is not so good. I went ahead anyway because no external links were unlabled when I last saw it. -- KJ 11:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
It can run on iPod 6G with emCore. Should add iPod 6G to supported devices list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theunamedguy ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Just to let you know. The purpose of featuring an article is both to point readers to the article and to highlight it to potential contributors. It will remain the feature for a week or so. The previous feature was gPhoto. Gronky 19:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible to get a screenshot of one of the more photogenic WPSs? For example, iPod Green5g, Arctic Desert, or Black Glass. The ones currently in the article look really cheap and DIY. It falsely gives the impression that Rockbox cannot be nice and polished. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kai Miller ( talk • contribs) .
Doesn't specify if it is capable to record voice thru the mic. Towsonu2003 01:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
"Rockbox's creators currently disadvise attempting to install Rockbox to people unfamiliar with working in command prompts, since an installation with manually entered commands is currently the only way to do so."
What's this? I didn't have to use any command line to get the firmware running. 194.29.193.239 23:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
As the title says, should the source code layout really get laid our here? I don't think so, WP should be an encyclopedia, and not document the project. That section would fit way better in the Rockbox wiki (how much Rockbox devs / interested users read this page here?). Additionally, I think discussing new ports here in detail doesn't make sense. IMO it would be better to simply name them and link to the corresponding thread in the Rockbox forums.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.13.186.1 ( talk • contribs).
I disagree with the cleanup tag recently added to the article. The embedded lists are both sourced and encyclopedic as they are necessary to describe the Rockbox feature set. I may agree that the footnotes could use trimming, however much of that clutter is due to the hwcodec/swcodec distinction that must be made when describing what Rockbox can/cannot do. -- Bk0 ( Talk) 18:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, changing bullet lists to prose is part of the general WP religion. Which does not mean it is always a good thing. The lists I see in the article now are good. If they are changed into prose, the article will be harder to read for useful information. Making information denser on the page does not make it easier to digest. It's not like we need to worry about wasting paper due to whitespace. - 69.87.200.77 14:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Removing the lists would be stupid, the article is fine as-is. 71.112.165.147 20:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Are there any DIY opensource hardware projects that are Rockbox compatible? What resources and tips would be most useful for such projects? - 69.87.200.77 18:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
There are none. 152.3.154.52 19:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the changes made recently by User:Bk0, although Apple might officially introduced the "classic" suffix only recently, I see that both iPod and iPod classic articles treat "iPod classic" as a series of 6 generations of iPods. Here is the first paragraph of iPod classic article:
So I think, that in order to prevent misunderstanding by the reader we can write "iPod classic series" and also make the proper link to the article, like this:
ilia 13:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the fifth generation classic line was known as the iPod Video, because it was the only thing capable of playing any video.-- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 11:40, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Here is a new rockbox cover image:
http://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/pics/rbimage.png
It is under CC license, and the album art is of a defiance, ohio album that is also under CC license, so it should be completely free. Could someone upload it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.3.198.221 ( talk) 23:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I've created another one, which should have clearer licensing: http://rasher.dk/rockbox/rockbox-gigabeatf-cabbiev2.png . The "album art" is a crop of this picture, which is CC-BY: http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulobrandao/2762313433/ . I'm not allowed to upload images, so if someone could do it and add this one to the infobox, that would be great. Rasher ( talk) 15:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
In an article such as this (technical description of a project) what purpose to non-primary sources serve? Specifically, why would they be considered "more" dependable in terms of being able to describe what the project is, does, is intended for, supports, etc than primary sources? I understand, in terms of subjective issues, that a primary source can't be a valid source. But for an article primarily on "What Rockbox is and does" isn't the best source the people who write it, rather than people who read about it and (regularly) misunderstand such things?
Or is this a suggestion that the article needs more subjective content, such as the worth of Rockbox or its impact on the open-source and digital-audio community? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.158.46.113 ( talk) 18:17, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
I agree, the citations thing is stupid. Its an open source project. Citing other people talking about the source is hardly a better solution then just linking to the source directly. Can we get it removed? 152.3.198.221 ( talk) 03:15, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I removed the primary sources header as it appears the article's citations are compliant with the policy linked here:
Since the article is now nearly free of interpretive statements and instead merely declares what the software can do, and when features were added, linking primary sources is both appropriate and desirable. However, more sources (including secondary sources) are still needed. But this is covered by the citations needed header. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.3.194.46 ( talk) 00:07, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Did the Rockbox project write its own operating system from scratch? Because in case they use some more or less modified version of μClinux or Linux kernel, it would be, you know, nice to accredit that. User:ScotXW t@lk 17:48, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
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When I first expanded this article, the only usable software-codec target was the H1xx, so naturally all the stuff about supported codecs, etc went into that section. Now, however, there are lots of software-codec targets including the H1xx, H3xx, all the iPod models and the upcoming iAudio and iFP ports.
Therefore I think it'd be better to rework the article into at least two main sections, one on the hardware-codec Archos targets and one on software codec support (maybe one on the plugins too, since they are mostly cross-platform). After that we can have lists of supported devices and upcoming ports. I'll try and get to work on this over the next few days, barring any objections. -- Bk0 ( Talk) 17:19, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Since Rockbox is such a dynamic, fast moving project, I'm trying to avoid putting anything in the article that will go out of date quickly. This includes detailed progress reports on each port in development, as well as listing every minute feature that gets added or changed from day to day. In that spirit I've removed the recently added section on the H300 "optimized" patchset. I expect most of what it contains to eventually get merged into mainline, so there's not really a need to create a separate section now. Perhaps a sentence or two about it in the "Software decoding devices" section would be warranted. -- Bk0 ( Talk) 16:40, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
This Korean company is currently (April 2006) spelling its name as 'iriver' (with all lowercase letters) while they used to (conversion date unkown to this author) spell it 'iRiver' previously. The latter version is also printed on most of the actual physical music players people own and use "out there".
Hullo, I edited the article to use the new markup for notes. It numbers notes automagically, which is good, but it can get troublesome if a lot of unlabled external links are used, which is not so good. I went ahead anyway because no external links were unlabled when I last saw it. -- KJ 11:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
It can run on iPod 6G with emCore. Should add iPod 6G to supported devices list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theunamedguy ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Just to let you know. The purpose of featuring an article is both to point readers to the article and to highlight it to potential contributors. It will remain the feature for a week or so. The previous feature was gPhoto. Gronky 19:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible to get a screenshot of one of the more photogenic WPSs? For example, iPod Green5g, Arctic Desert, or Black Glass. The ones currently in the article look really cheap and DIY. It falsely gives the impression that Rockbox cannot be nice and polished. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kai Miller ( talk • contribs) .
Doesn't specify if it is capable to record voice thru the mic. Towsonu2003 01:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
"Rockbox's creators currently disadvise attempting to install Rockbox to people unfamiliar with working in command prompts, since an installation with manually entered commands is currently the only way to do so."
What's this? I didn't have to use any command line to get the firmware running. 194.29.193.239 23:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
As the title says, should the source code layout really get laid our here? I don't think so, WP should be an encyclopedia, and not document the project. That section would fit way better in the Rockbox wiki (how much Rockbox devs / interested users read this page here?). Additionally, I think discussing new ports here in detail doesn't make sense. IMO it would be better to simply name them and link to the corresponding thread in the Rockbox forums.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.13.186.1 ( talk • contribs).
I disagree with the cleanup tag recently added to the article. The embedded lists are both sourced and encyclopedic as they are necessary to describe the Rockbox feature set. I may agree that the footnotes could use trimming, however much of that clutter is due to the hwcodec/swcodec distinction that must be made when describing what Rockbox can/cannot do. -- Bk0 ( Talk) 18:07, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Yes, changing bullet lists to prose is part of the general WP religion. Which does not mean it is always a good thing. The lists I see in the article now are good. If they are changed into prose, the article will be harder to read for useful information. Making information denser on the page does not make it easier to digest. It's not like we need to worry about wasting paper due to whitespace. - 69.87.200.77 14:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Removing the lists would be stupid, the article is fine as-is. 71.112.165.147 20:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Are there any DIY opensource hardware projects that are Rockbox compatible? What resources and tips would be most useful for such projects? - 69.87.200.77 18:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
There are none. 152.3.154.52 19:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the changes made recently by User:Bk0, although Apple might officially introduced the "classic" suffix only recently, I see that both iPod and iPod classic articles treat "iPod classic" as a series of 6 generations of iPods. Here is the first paragraph of iPod classic article:
So I think, that in order to prevent misunderstanding by the reader we can write "iPod classic series" and also make the proper link to the article, like this:
ilia 13:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the fifth generation classic line was known as the iPod Video, because it was the only thing capable of playing any video.-- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 11:40, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Here is a new rockbox cover image:
http://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/pics/rbimage.png
It is under CC license, and the album art is of a defiance, ohio album that is also under CC license, so it should be completely free. Could someone upload it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.3.198.221 ( talk) 23:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I've created another one, which should have clearer licensing: http://rasher.dk/rockbox/rockbox-gigabeatf-cabbiev2.png . The "album art" is a crop of this picture, which is CC-BY: http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulobrandao/2762313433/ . I'm not allowed to upload images, so if someone could do it and add this one to the infobox, that would be great. Rasher ( talk) 15:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
In an article such as this (technical description of a project) what purpose to non-primary sources serve? Specifically, why would they be considered "more" dependable in terms of being able to describe what the project is, does, is intended for, supports, etc than primary sources? I understand, in terms of subjective issues, that a primary source can't be a valid source. But for an article primarily on "What Rockbox is and does" isn't the best source the people who write it, rather than people who read about it and (regularly) misunderstand such things?
Or is this a suggestion that the article needs more subjective content, such as the worth of Rockbox or its impact on the open-source and digital-audio community? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.158.46.113 ( talk) 18:17, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
I agree, the citations thing is stupid. Its an open source project. Citing other people talking about the source is hardly a better solution then just linking to the source directly. Can we get it removed? 152.3.198.221 ( talk) 03:15, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I removed the primary sources header as it appears the article's citations are compliant with the policy linked here:
Since the article is now nearly free of interpretive statements and instead merely declares what the software can do, and when features were added, linking primary sources is both appropriate and desirable. However, more sources (including secondary sources) are still needed. But this is covered by the citations needed header. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.3.194.46 ( talk) 00:07, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Did the Rockbox project write its own operating system from scratch? Because in case they use some more or less modified version of μClinux or Linux kernel, it would be, you know, nice to accredit that. User:ScotXW t@lk 17:48, 30 April 2014 (UTC)