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Any clues as to how many people? 219.77.100.155 ( talk) 22:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
I've removed the reference to 'the last successful invasion of British soil' (the Dutch landed in Sheppey and killed a few sheep - hardly a successful invasion, and nothing to do with Rochester anyway) but I query whether the Dutch raid should be mentioned at all in an article on Rochester. Wouldn't it be better dealt with under the River Medway or Chatham Dockyard? JMB196 ( talk) 23:34, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the external link for Bob, he is no longer the city's MP (following the 2010 general election) and the link was broken in any case. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 11:35, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.7.179.112 ( talk) 15:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
There is a discrepancy in the section "Parishes". The WP page says:
There were three parishes within the city of Rochester, St Margaret's, St Nicholas' and the Cathedral.
and yet the Rochester Cathedral Website says:
Owing to the fact that Rochester Cathedral is not a parish church ... [1]
both can't be right. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 12:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
There are a few issues with the early history that don't quite make sense.
... but there was no bridge in AD 43.
At what date was Durobrivae recorded? The first bridge was built very soon after the invasion, and if the name dates from much after AD 44 there would be a bridge there.
Again, without knowing the date at which Durobrivae was first recorded then
... it is assumed that Rochester was a fortified Roman town, but no evidence has been found of such fort.
doesn't quite tie up with:
* 190+: Systematic earthen fortifications were established. * 225+: These were replaced by stone, which are still extant.
Finally, the landing place of Hengist and Horsa is disputed. As well as Ebbsfleet, there is a claim for Castle Rough near Milton Regis. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 13:22, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
The three WikiProjects boxes above all request that the history is moved to a new page. The ToDo list requests the replacement of bullet points with prose, suitable wikified. I have started work to do this by taking a snapshot of the existing history into sandbox2 and will launch it as a new page once I feel it is in basic shape.
If anyone has any comments pertinent to this please leave them on my talk page. If I am treading on anyone's toes or there are other good reasons I've not thought about, please let me know as soon as possible and I'll endeavour to accomodate changes. Ditto if anyone thinks this is a bad idea, but please be constructive! Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 18:15, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
I've removed the old cleanup tag for the following reasons:
If anyone disgrees, please feel free to revert or, preferably, select a more appropriate tag. See also the top of this talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin of Sheffield ( talk • contribs) 12:26, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
I was surprised to read the information about Rochester's present non-status as a city. It is my understanding that any English town with a Church of England cathedral is considered to be a city. Is this not actually the case (at least these days)? Afterwriting ( talk) 13:37, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
There has been a proposal to move Rochester, Kent to Rochester, Medway in accordance with WP:UKPLACE. This has led to objections.
WP:UKPLACE states (slightly edited):
Where possible, articles on places in the United Kingdom use [[placename]].
Disambiguation should never be to post town, former postal county or postcode district.
For localities requiring disambiguation:
Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 10:33, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Rochester People still appear to be active and so I've reversed user Scattyjan's deletion. coFWD was listed as a level 2 heading under Culture thus making Dickens onwards into subsections of it. I've brought both these groups together under a single heading, they are of minor significance but worth recording. To avoid edit warring, could editors (perhaps including Scattyjan) care to comment here please. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 13:36, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Basically a nice bit of work- and one in progress. It does illustate just how much work needs to be done. I looked at Lincoln, England(C) and then Norwich(B) for a comparison. We complain we are hindered by not knowing where the boundaries are- but have no Demography section, Industry is weak and there is nothing on climate in spite of the Gravesend climate being the most benign in the land The elephant in the room is the lack Governance or any political information, the 2014 Rochester& Strood Election finally brought the area to international attention setting two turning points and many records, Bob Marshall=Andrew tenure as MP was also notable and indeed Anne Kerr (politician) as the MP who was beaten up by the Chicago police.
I'll hold back just now and do pick up a couple of pieces when you are taking a breather. -- Clem Rutter ( talk) 16:33, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
User:Martinevans123 User:PaleCloudedWhite I do not think that a settlement should have a weather box referenced to a weather station outside the area concerned, rather weather boxes should only be used if the weather station is inside the area covered by the article. Hence countries and regions could justifiably have one, but not villages nor many towns. The one in this article should be removed, perhaps leaving a link to a page which justifiably includes one. SovalValtos ( talk) 12:43, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
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@ Roger 8 Roger: Your edits are destroying formatting and not replacing it with a consistent style. The first two entries are in your preferred style, then there is a random line you've cut off, then two entries in the old style, two in the new, one in the old and finally one in the new. This hotchpotch is unacceptable. If you wish to change the list to "list guidelines" (which?) seek consensus to do so, but don't mess up the existing system and then wander off. See MOS:DEFLIST, the existing list is in an acceptable style. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 08:48, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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Any clues as to how many people? 219.77.100.155 ( talk) 22:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
I've removed the reference to 'the last successful invasion of British soil' (the Dutch landed in Sheppey and killed a few sheep - hardly a successful invasion, and nothing to do with Rochester anyway) but I query whether the Dutch raid should be mentioned at all in an article on Rochester. Wouldn't it be better dealt with under the River Medway or Chatham Dockyard? JMB196 ( talk) 23:34, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the external link for Bob, he is no longer the city's MP (following the 2010 general election) and the link was broken in any case. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 11:35, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.7.179.112 ( talk) 15:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
There is a discrepancy in the section "Parishes". The WP page says:
There were three parishes within the city of Rochester, St Margaret's, St Nicholas' and the Cathedral.
and yet the Rochester Cathedral Website says:
Owing to the fact that Rochester Cathedral is not a parish church ... [1]
both can't be right. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 12:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
There are a few issues with the early history that don't quite make sense.
... but there was no bridge in AD 43.
At what date was Durobrivae recorded? The first bridge was built very soon after the invasion, and if the name dates from much after AD 44 there would be a bridge there.
Again, without knowing the date at which Durobrivae was first recorded then
... it is assumed that Rochester was a fortified Roman town, but no evidence has been found of such fort.
doesn't quite tie up with:
* 190+: Systematic earthen fortifications were established. * 225+: These were replaced by stone, which are still extant.
Finally, the landing place of Hengist and Horsa is disputed. As well as Ebbsfleet, there is a claim for Castle Rough near Milton Regis. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 13:22, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
The three WikiProjects boxes above all request that the history is moved to a new page. The ToDo list requests the replacement of bullet points with prose, suitable wikified. I have started work to do this by taking a snapshot of the existing history into sandbox2 and will launch it as a new page once I feel it is in basic shape.
If anyone has any comments pertinent to this please leave them on my talk page. If I am treading on anyone's toes or there are other good reasons I've not thought about, please let me know as soon as possible and I'll endeavour to accomodate changes. Ditto if anyone thinks this is a bad idea, but please be constructive! Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 18:15, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
I've removed the old cleanup tag for the following reasons:
If anyone disgrees, please feel free to revert or, preferably, select a more appropriate tag. See also the top of this talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin of Sheffield ( talk • contribs) 12:26, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
I was surprised to read the information about Rochester's present non-status as a city. It is my understanding that any English town with a Church of England cathedral is considered to be a city. Is this not actually the case (at least these days)? Afterwriting ( talk) 13:37, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
There has been a proposal to move Rochester, Kent to Rochester, Medway in accordance with WP:UKPLACE. This has led to objections.
WP:UKPLACE states (slightly edited):
Where possible, articles on places in the United Kingdom use [[placename]].
Disambiguation should never be to post town, former postal county or postcode district.
For localities requiring disambiguation:
Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 10:33, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Rochester People still appear to be active and so I've reversed user Scattyjan's deletion. coFWD was listed as a level 2 heading under Culture thus making Dickens onwards into subsections of it. I've brought both these groups together under a single heading, they are of minor significance but worth recording. To avoid edit warring, could editors (perhaps including Scattyjan) care to comment here please. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 13:36, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Basically a nice bit of work- and one in progress. It does illustate just how much work needs to be done. I looked at Lincoln, England(C) and then Norwich(B) for a comparison. We complain we are hindered by not knowing where the boundaries are- but have no Demography section, Industry is weak and there is nothing on climate in spite of the Gravesend climate being the most benign in the land The elephant in the room is the lack Governance or any political information, the 2014 Rochester& Strood Election finally brought the area to international attention setting two turning points and many records, Bob Marshall=Andrew tenure as MP was also notable and indeed Anne Kerr (politician) as the MP who was beaten up by the Chicago police.
I'll hold back just now and do pick up a couple of pieces when you are taking a breather. -- Clem Rutter ( talk) 16:33, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
User:Martinevans123 User:PaleCloudedWhite I do not think that a settlement should have a weather box referenced to a weather station outside the area concerned, rather weather boxes should only be used if the weather station is inside the area covered by the article. Hence countries and regions could justifiably have one, but not villages nor many towns. The one in this article should be removed, perhaps leaving a link to a page which justifiably includes one. SovalValtos ( talk) 12:43, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 14:07, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Roger 8 Roger: Your edits are destroying formatting and not replacing it with a consistent style. The first two entries are in your preferred style, then there is a random line you've cut off, then two entries in the old style, two in the new, one in the old and finally one in the new. This hotchpotch is unacceptable. If you wish to change the list to "list guidelines" (which?) seek consensus to do so, but don't mess up the existing system and then wander off. See MOS:DEFLIST, the existing list is in an acceptable style. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 08:48, 28 July 2023 (UTC)