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The result of the move request was: Merge, the page was merged. Greyshark09 ( talk) 20:59, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
User CeeGee proposed that Sirnak massacre to be merged into the Uludere airstrike. Please vote support or oppose. Greyshark09 ( talk) 19:28, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested merge. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The Rudaw links are dead. But the main Rudaw news (the link I posted) was saying that 36 people were killed, not 50. That 50 number was claimed by a biased Rudaw columnist based on an initial report by PKK. Kavas ( talk) 15:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
This incident can not be defined as a "massacre" (as described in the article also). Massacre is totally a different act, where there is generally evil will. This is quite obvious when the definition of Massacre and the " List of events named massacres" are examined/analyzed carefully.
In addition to that, the official name of the place is Uludere, not Roboski.
Therefore, it would be appropriate to name the article as "Uludere incident" or "Uludere/Roboski incident", as per [1]. There is no need to "poison" wikipedia with emotional preferences & political issues. With the existing name, there are lots of NPOV and COI issues. 88.233.208.131 ( talk) 10:17, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus. -- BDD ( talk) 23:28, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Roboski Massacre → Uludere Incident – As per WP:TITLE, the title should be neutral and non-judgmental. This incident can not be defined as a massacre, and the official name of the place is Uludere, not Roboski. List of events named massacres provides lots of examples for the cases when an incident can be called as a massacre. --Relisted. — Amakuru ( talk) 14:30, 16 December 2013 (UTC) 88.233.208.131 ( talk) 12:06, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa ( talk) 20:05, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Roboski airstrike → Roboski massacre – Overwhelming common name, see below ( t · c) buidhe 16:17, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
22:05, 16 April 2014 タチコマ robot talk contribs block m 63 bytes +1 Robot: Fixing double redirect to Roboski airstrike 06:43, 18 September 2013 RjwilmsiBot talk contribs block m 62 bytes +32 redirect tagging using AWB (9488) 18:45, 30 June 2013 EmausBot talk contribs block m 30 bytes 0 Robot: Fixing double redirect to Roboski Massacre 02:56, 31 March 2013 AvicBot talk contribs block m 30 bytes −1 Robot: Fixing double redirect to Uludere massacre 21:50, 20 March 2013 Roboskiye talk contribs block 31 bytes +31 ←Redirected page to Uludere airstrike thank
and discussion above there have been previous moves. Hopefully this will lead to stability. Andrewa ( talk) 20:05, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Merge, the page was merged. Greyshark09 ( talk) 20:59, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
User CeeGee proposed that Sirnak massacre to be merged into the Uludere airstrike. Please vote support or oppose. Greyshark09 ( talk) 19:28, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested merge. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The Rudaw links are dead. But the main Rudaw news (the link I posted) was saying that 36 people were killed, not 50. That 50 number was claimed by a biased Rudaw columnist based on an initial report by PKK. Kavas ( talk) 15:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
This incident can not be defined as a "massacre" (as described in the article also). Massacre is totally a different act, where there is generally evil will. This is quite obvious when the definition of Massacre and the " List of events named massacres" are examined/analyzed carefully.
In addition to that, the official name of the place is Uludere, not Roboski.
Therefore, it would be appropriate to name the article as "Uludere incident" or "Uludere/Roboski incident", as per [1]. There is no need to "poison" wikipedia with emotional preferences & political issues. With the existing name, there are lots of NPOV and COI issues. 88.233.208.131 ( talk) 10:17, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus. -- BDD ( talk) 23:28, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Roboski Massacre → Uludere Incident – As per WP:TITLE, the title should be neutral and non-judgmental. This incident can not be defined as a massacre, and the official name of the place is Uludere, not Roboski. List of events named massacres provides lots of examples for the cases when an incident can be called as a massacre. --Relisted. — Amakuru ( talk) 14:30, 16 December 2013 (UTC) 88.233.208.131 ( talk) 12:06, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa ( talk) 20:05, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Roboski airstrike → Roboski massacre – Overwhelming common name, see below ( t · c) buidhe 16:17, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
22:05, 16 April 2014 タチコマ robot talk contribs block m 63 bytes +1 Robot: Fixing double redirect to Roboski airstrike 06:43, 18 September 2013 RjwilmsiBot talk contribs block m 62 bytes +32 redirect tagging using AWB (9488) 18:45, 30 June 2013 EmausBot talk contribs block m 30 bytes 0 Robot: Fixing double redirect to Roboski Massacre 02:56, 31 March 2013 AvicBot talk contribs block m 30 bytes −1 Robot: Fixing double redirect to Uludere massacre 21:50, 20 March 2013 Roboskiye talk contribs block 31 bytes +31 ←Redirected page to Uludere airstrike thank
and discussion above there have been previous moves. Hopefully this will lead to stability. Andrewa ( talk) 20:05, 8 April 2021 (UTC)