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At this edit a tag was left asking for notability. Please be more specific in your reason for including such a tag in this article. Thank you. - Boyd Reimer ( talk) 19:30, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Greetings Niteshift36
The "BLP1E" policy ( at this link) doesn't apply to Long because he has continued to be covered in the press even after the "one event." which originally launched him into notability.
For example, consider this press link which contains these quotes about Long's activities after his release from prison:
"As he tours the country speaking out in opposition to the war..." [1]
"He is being sponsored on a trip to Israel and Palestine in October [2009] to speak to Army resisters there and meet with high school students." [1]
Also, even after the verdict was handed down, and the legal proceedings against him were complete, he continued to be "active" even while in prison. While in prison, he spoke to elected representatives from Canada. His words were then read in the Parliament of Canada. Four days after Robin Long's words were read in Canada's House of Commons, on March 30, 2009, the House of Commons again voted in a non-binding motion 129 to 125 in favour of a committee's recommendation on Iraq war resisters. [2] The press then covered the Parliamentary activity on this issue after Long's "post-verdict activism." [3]
Wikipedia is a work in progress - The history of Iraq War resisters is not nearly over yet, and is still being written. Coming up on May 25, 2010, the Parliament of Canada will be debating the issue in the second reading of Bill C440, which deals precisely with Iraq War resisters. On March 19, 2010, Robin Long spoke to a meeting in Canada via a conference call see link .
Also note that the committee's recommendation has implications far beyond the Iraq war. ie. "all wars not sanctioned by United Nations." [4]
Also consider that "Aggravation" (legal term) in Long's US military Court martial had subsequent implications for other US Iraq War Resisters.
On the issue of notability: The protests against the Iraq War have set all time records: The Feb 15, 2003 protest in Rome involved around three million people, and is listed in the 2004 Guinness Book of World Records as the largest anti-war rally in history. [5]
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Sincerely, - Boyd Reimer ( talk) 15:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
WP:BLP1E also states: "If the event is significant and the individual's role within it is substantial, a separate biography may be appropriate. Individuals notable for well-documented events, [...] fit into this category". I think the ongoing story of Canada and Iraq War resisters is significant enough to apply this second clause and make a separate BLP. After all, Long was visited by two Members of Canada's Parliament, and was quoted at length during the official Question Period of that Parliament (as is mentioned in the references). Therefore he has had a significant influence on the politics of Canada. - Boyd Reimer ( talk) 19:19, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
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At this edit a tag was left asking for notability. Please be more specific in your reason for including such a tag in this article. Thank you. - Boyd Reimer ( talk) 19:30, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Greetings Niteshift36
The "BLP1E" policy ( at this link) doesn't apply to Long because he has continued to be covered in the press even after the "one event." which originally launched him into notability.
For example, consider this press link which contains these quotes about Long's activities after his release from prison:
"As he tours the country speaking out in opposition to the war..." [1]
"He is being sponsored on a trip to Israel and Palestine in October [2009] to speak to Army resisters there and meet with high school students." [1]
Also, even after the verdict was handed down, and the legal proceedings against him were complete, he continued to be "active" even while in prison. While in prison, he spoke to elected representatives from Canada. His words were then read in the Parliament of Canada. Four days after Robin Long's words were read in Canada's House of Commons, on March 30, 2009, the House of Commons again voted in a non-binding motion 129 to 125 in favour of a committee's recommendation on Iraq war resisters. [2] The press then covered the Parliamentary activity on this issue after Long's "post-verdict activism." [3]
Wikipedia is a work in progress - The history of Iraq War resisters is not nearly over yet, and is still being written. Coming up on May 25, 2010, the Parliament of Canada will be debating the issue in the second reading of Bill C440, which deals precisely with Iraq War resisters. On March 19, 2010, Robin Long spoke to a meeting in Canada via a conference call see link .
Also note that the committee's recommendation has implications far beyond the Iraq war. ie. "all wars not sanctioned by United Nations." [4]
Also consider that "Aggravation" (legal term) in Long's US military Court martial had subsequent implications for other US Iraq War Resisters.
On the issue of notability: The protests against the Iraq War have set all time records: The Feb 15, 2003 protest in Rome involved around three million people, and is listed in the 2004 Guinness Book of World Records as the largest anti-war rally in history. [5]
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Sincerely, - Boyd Reimer ( talk) 15:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
WP:BLP1E also states: "If the event is significant and the individual's role within it is substantial, a separate biography may be appropriate. Individuals notable for well-documented events, [...] fit into this category". I think the ongoing story of Canada and Iraq War resisters is significant enough to apply this second clause and make a separate BLP. After all, Long was visited by two Members of Canada's Parliament, and was quoted at length during the official Question Period of that Parliament (as is mentioned in the references). Therefore he has had a significant influence on the politics of Canada. - Boyd Reimer ( talk) 19:19, 19 August 2010 (UTC)