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"It is rumored, that..." it says in the arti. Since when is Wikipedia for rumors?
I can only imagine the horrors that Robert Dean Stethem suffered on that hijacked planed. Why was this his fate?
Anthony
lets not forget that his killer was just released with a slap on the wrist
In today's (2005-12-20) "Spiegel online", the online version of Germany's premier newsmagazine, i read Hammadi has been released "last week", not on Dec 20th. ( http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,391485,00.html, in German)
Dankwart
Hopefully a "close encounter" with a Navy SEAL team is in the future for the released killer. Maybe he can be brought to justice in this country.
fellow Seabee
I remember this incident. The most sickening thing for me was not the killing of this brave man (what do you expect from Islamist scum), but it was the interview with a female passenger, whose name does not deserve to be remembered. She was asked about the incident, and she said something to the effect of, "Well... he wasn't the smartest person I ever met." My reaction, as a teenager - and still today, as a 50 year old attorney, college professor and veteran of the armed forces, is... "FUCK HER." It was a reflection of the "malaise" phase of American life, where people felt like those in uniform were probably either trailer trash who could not get another job, or they were empty-headed in-bred hicks from the mountains of Appalachia. God help us all. ~~
We were in school in Pt. Huneme, Ca. in 1984. He was a handsome young man who was very proud of his standing with the Navy. He was very easily liked...by everyone. We enjoyed many nights out on liberty and he was a fine gentleman. We became good friends. I was sitting in my living room in Adak, Alaska (1985) when I saw his picture on the news. I was both shocked, and shaken to hear of his death. It will remain with me to my death. Bobby...I still think of you my firend! Rest in peace! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.162.5.11 ( talk) 17:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC).
Stethem's grave marker says "SW2-DV" and the article says he became a "2nd class Navy Diver". Further down the marker, it shows "Honorary CUCM (DV)". In the article, it says he was promoted to Master Chief Constructionman.
This note says that when a BU, EA, or SW is promoted to E-9 paygrade (MCPO), they merge into CU, which is consistent with the CUCM reference. What I can't see is where Navy Diver (ND) fits in, nor is there any mention I can find in WP articles of what "DV" is. Can someone shed some light on this (i.e. is ND a new DV, and is this how multiple qualifications are stacked, though why wouldn't he have been promoted to DVCM (NDCM) instead of CUCM)?
Also, in our images and articles, we show the
Command Master Chief and
Force/Fleet Master Chief insignia, but the only other MCPO insignia appears to be the
Master Chief Boatswain's Mate, with the
crossed anchors, used generically for all other MCPO ratings. Do I understand correctly that there are really separate insignia with each rating's metal insignia below the eagle (except those that are combined, per the note above)? That is, in the case of Stethem,
would be below the eagle instead of the BM's crossed anchors? —[
AlanM1(
talk)]—
10:27, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
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"It is rumored, that..." it says in the arti. Since when is Wikipedia for rumors?
I can only imagine the horrors that Robert Dean Stethem suffered on that hijacked planed. Why was this his fate?
Anthony
lets not forget that his killer was just released with a slap on the wrist
In today's (2005-12-20) "Spiegel online", the online version of Germany's premier newsmagazine, i read Hammadi has been released "last week", not on Dec 20th. ( http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,391485,00.html, in German)
Dankwart
Hopefully a "close encounter" with a Navy SEAL team is in the future for the released killer. Maybe he can be brought to justice in this country.
fellow Seabee
I remember this incident. The most sickening thing for me was not the killing of this brave man (what do you expect from Islamist scum), but it was the interview with a female passenger, whose name does not deserve to be remembered. She was asked about the incident, and she said something to the effect of, "Well... he wasn't the smartest person I ever met." My reaction, as a teenager - and still today, as a 50 year old attorney, college professor and veteran of the armed forces, is... "FUCK HER." It was a reflection of the "malaise" phase of American life, where people felt like those in uniform were probably either trailer trash who could not get another job, or they were empty-headed in-bred hicks from the mountains of Appalachia. God help us all. ~~
We were in school in Pt. Huneme, Ca. in 1984. He was a handsome young man who was very proud of his standing with the Navy. He was very easily liked...by everyone. We enjoyed many nights out on liberty and he was a fine gentleman. We became good friends. I was sitting in my living room in Adak, Alaska (1985) when I saw his picture on the news. I was both shocked, and shaken to hear of his death. It will remain with me to my death. Bobby...I still think of you my firend! Rest in peace! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.162.5.11 ( talk) 17:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC).
Stethem's grave marker says "SW2-DV" and the article says he became a "2nd class Navy Diver". Further down the marker, it shows "Honorary CUCM (DV)". In the article, it says he was promoted to Master Chief Constructionman.
This note says that when a BU, EA, or SW is promoted to E-9 paygrade (MCPO), they merge into CU, which is consistent with the CUCM reference. What I can't see is where Navy Diver (ND) fits in, nor is there any mention I can find in WP articles of what "DV" is. Can someone shed some light on this (i.e. is ND a new DV, and is this how multiple qualifications are stacked, though why wouldn't he have been promoted to DVCM (NDCM) instead of CUCM)?
Also, in our images and articles, we show the
Command Master Chief and
Force/Fleet Master Chief insignia, but the only other MCPO insignia appears to be the
Master Chief Boatswain's Mate, with the
crossed anchors, used generically for all other MCPO ratings. Do I understand correctly that there are really separate insignia with each rating's metal insignia below the eagle (except those that are combined, per the note above)? That is, in the case of Stethem,
would be below the eagle instead of the BM's crossed anchors? —[
AlanM1(
talk)]—
10:27, 22 August 2013 (UTC)