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Barely gets a sentence.
This is the most unbalanced article in the Wikiverse. It needs editing by someone who understands that he was somewhat less than perfect. Bill Ellis ( talk) 17:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
needs to be de-conspiracy theoried Philip 18:46, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
now it doesnt
That Maxwell was a corporate crook is a legally proved and universally acknowledged fact, not a "POV." I have reinstated my original wording. Adam 09:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Nor was Hitler, and for the same reason. Maxwell's crimes were clearly established after his death, and they can and should be stated as fact. Adam 04:25, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It was very common at the time for companies to use pension fund money to bridge company finances. The comparison to Hitler is outrageous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.127.7.58 ( talk) 13:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
For general interest, here's a link to a photo of Lady Ghislaine, Maxwell's yacht at the time, now renamed Lady Mona K. Not sure if it should appear on Maxwell's page. Lady Mona K
I have removed the following on two occasions as it is unsubstantiated and not particularly significant:
The article on the movie does suggest Maxwell though, and adds Bill Gates in to the mix for good measure, but as part of the article it does seem to be unnecessary clutter. The plot summary ( in the character profile) does suggest that Maxwell was a somewhat minor inspiration over the others. Philip Cross 21:37, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Please don't keep putting back wrong information
Someone keeps deleting my edits on Maxwell and it's getting very annoying. You should know what you are doing or not do it at all. Two of you, one person is is a high school student named Jorge, keep reinserting the notion that Maxwell was born in Slovakia. Please study your geography before you play with these things. As I tried to put in the correction, Maxwell's home town is in Zakarpattiya, a province which I know extensively from personal travel and my work at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine. It was NEVER part of Slovakia and is 160 KM SE of the closest point on the Slovak border. The correct notation for the province is Subcarpathian Ruthenia or Ruthenia to refer to the 1920-1938 province of Czechoslovakia. Please read your history books or the Wikipedia article on the subject. Don't make your readers think that the people who contribute these articles are a bunch of know-nothings.
I added that he was an MP in the opening as he is probably the only MP we have an article for and this isnt in the opening, and also that he was Czechoslovakian in the opening, unquestionably true where just to call him British is inaccurate POV, SqueakBox 21:28, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
I am loathe to edit an article I know so little about, but is this phrase correct? cojoco 02:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
"Nevertheless, writs were swiftly issued by Mirror Group Solicitors on instruction from twat head Maxwell,"
Rich Farmbrough, 11:05, 20 November 2009 (UTC).
There was a House of Common select committee investigation into Maxwell's looting of the Mirror pension funds. Perhaps the findings of that can be incorporated. As it stands, it is ludicrous that the article says almost nothing about the pension funds, which was perhaps Maxwell's greatest scandal of all. 93.96.236.8 ( talk) 15:37, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Whilst it is true that Robert Maxwell's suspicious death did indeed spare him from trial and thus leave open the question of his guilt, his brokers, Goldman Sachs and Lehman, were not so lucky. They're huge payments to the pension companies were the result of court cases against them for complicity in Maxwell's acts of fraud. Using pension fund money to bridge company finances was unethical at least. Robert Maxwell however went further than this and bankrupted pension funds via a network of shell companies to manipulate the stock prices of companies with misrepresented earnings. ("The Partnership: The Making of Goldman Sachs", Charles D. Ellis, Ch.25 - Robert Maxwell the client from Hell) The view that Robert Maxwell is deliberately deceived the public, misappropriated funds and behaved unethically is a consensus held by the UK DTI, Goldman Sachs, and a number of other reputable institutions. He escapes the definition of a crook primarily by virtue of his death prior to trial. This article is clearly biased in favor of Maxwell in a most suspicious manner. Mauricepp ( talk) 12:51, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Would this article be a good candidate for PC1 protection?:
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Barely gets a sentence.
This is the most unbalanced article in the Wikiverse. It needs editing by someone who understands that he was somewhat less than perfect. Bill Ellis ( talk) 17:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
needs to be de-conspiracy theoried Philip 18:46, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
now it doesnt
That Maxwell was a corporate crook is a legally proved and universally acknowledged fact, not a "POV." I have reinstated my original wording. Adam 09:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Nor was Hitler, and for the same reason. Maxwell's crimes were clearly established after his death, and they can and should be stated as fact. Adam 04:25, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
It was very common at the time for companies to use pension fund money to bridge company finances. The comparison to Hitler is outrageous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.127.7.58 ( talk) 13:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
For general interest, here's a link to a photo of Lady Ghislaine, Maxwell's yacht at the time, now renamed Lady Mona K. Not sure if it should appear on Maxwell's page. Lady Mona K
I have removed the following on two occasions as it is unsubstantiated and not particularly significant:
The article on the movie does suggest Maxwell though, and adds Bill Gates in to the mix for good measure, but as part of the article it does seem to be unnecessary clutter. The plot summary ( in the character profile) does suggest that Maxwell was a somewhat minor inspiration over the others. Philip Cross 21:37, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Please don't keep putting back wrong information
Someone keeps deleting my edits on Maxwell and it's getting very annoying. You should know what you are doing or not do it at all. Two of you, one person is is a high school student named Jorge, keep reinserting the notion that Maxwell was born in Slovakia. Please study your geography before you play with these things. As I tried to put in the correction, Maxwell's home town is in Zakarpattiya, a province which I know extensively from personal travel and my work at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine. It was NEVER part of Slovakia and is 160 KM SE of the closest point on the Slovak border. The correct notation for the province is Subcarpathian Ruthenia or Ruthenia to refer to the 1920-1938 province of Czechoslovakia. Please read your history books or the Wikipedia article on the subject. Don't make your readers think that the people who contribute these articles are a bunch of know-nothings.
I added that he was an MP in the opening as he is probably the only MP we have an article for and this isnt in the opening, and also that he was Czechoslovakian in the opening, unquestionably true where just to call him British is inaccurate POV, SqueakBox 21:28, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
I am loathe to edit an article I know so little about, but is this phrase correct? cojoco 02:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
"Nevertheless, writs were swiftly issued by Mirror Group Solicitors on instruction from twat head Maxwell,"
Rich Farmbrough, 11:05, 20 November 2009 (UTC).
There was a House of Common select committee investigation into Maxwell's looting of the Mirror pension funds. Perhaps the findings of that can be incorporated. As it stands, it is ludicrous that the article says almost nothing about the pension funds, which was perhaps Maxwell's greatest scandal of all. 93.96.236.8 ( talk) 15:37, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Whilst it is true that Robert Maxwell's suspicious death did indeed spare him from trial and thus leave open the question of his guilt, his brokers, Goldman Sachs and Lehman, were not so lucky. They're huge payments to the pension companies were the result of court cases against them for complicity in Maxwell's acts of fraud. Using pension fund money to bridge company finances was unethical at least. Robert Maxwell however went further than this and bankrupted pension funds via a network of shell companies to manipulate the stock prices of companies with misrepresented earnings. ("The Partnership: The Making of Goldman Sachs", Charles D. Ellis, Ch.25 - Robert Maxwell the client from Hell) The view that Robert Maxwell is deliberately deceived the public, misappropriated funds and behaved unethically is a consensus held by the UK DTI, Goldman Sachs, and a number of other reputable institutions. He escapes the definition of a crook primarily by virtue of his death prior to trial. This article is clearly biased in favor of Maxwell in a most suspicious manner. Mauricepp ( talk) 12:51, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Would this article be a good candidate for PC1 protection?: