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"Curthose" is given as a significant qualifier based upon his shortness of stature, but for the vast majority of English speakers, I can pretty much guarantee that this is cryptic indeed--and a far cry from anything remotely approaching a rationale for this description cum appellation. Perhaps a brief [no pun intended] explanation that "curthose" is anglofrench or whatever for "shortpants" would be worthwhile. Or perhaps even I don't "get it"... Tom e r talk 07:41, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Whoever did the original work on this page omitted to include a section on his wife and children, which really needs to be added. Maybe I'll have a chance to do that, but this really isn't my period. -- Michael K. Smith 20:23, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Surely this article is referring to Robert II rather than "Robert III, Duke of Normandy". I can cite Encyclopedia Brittanica on this point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ts1088 ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
His government (or misgovernment) of Normandy as well as his failed invasion of England proves that his military skills were better than his political skills.
This doesn't make sense. He "misgoverned" Normandy and failed to attract political support back at England making him a poor politician. His failures in the 1st Crusade and the invasion of England means that he wasn't exactly a Basil II either. So which is worse, his political skills or his military skills? The above sentence is anti-complimentary! Tourskin ( talk) 02:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Why is Henry of Normandy listed as issue without any reference in the text of the article. Robert's wife died after the birth of his first son, so I assume this reference is a mistake. I've tagged it as Citation Required for now. -- 89.105.112.194 ( talk) 15:51, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
For what is worth, Alison Weir mentions this Henry in "Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy", p. 44. Charles Cawley when commenting on the existence of this figure notes: "HENRI de Normandie (1101 after Jun-killed in the New Forest). He is named as second son of Duke Robert by Weir[276], although the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. Henri may have been Duke Robert's older legitimate son. Orderic Vitalis records the birth of a son to Robert and his wife in the year after the marriage was consummated in Normandy in Sep 1100. He does not name this son, but records the birth of the couple's son Guillaume "in the third year after his parents' marriage" in a later passage." Dimadick ( talk) 21:12, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
What is this image supposed to illustrate? It looks like a cyclops, not a human being, and not even a regular cyclops, since all it HAS is one eye – no other features at all on its face! How is such an image supposed to enhance a reader's understanding of this subject? It's ridiculous. I'm going to remove it.-- Jim10701 ( talk) 00:30, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I've twice reverted the addition of information here. It's not only already in the article, but consulting with the three biographies of Curthose as well as Hollister's article on the 1101 invasion - I find that no mention of the name of Curthose's ship, much less so much detail about what it's named after, is given. To put the information in the article ... you're going to need to justify why the name of the ship, which is not considered important to the three biographies of Curthose, is so vital to this article. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:00, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
This article states "Robert also had at least three illegitimate children – Richard, who died hunting in the New Forest in May 1100", whereas the New Forest article quotes a source, which says "...and Henry, [William I's] Grand-child, by Robert his eldest son, as he pursued his Game, was hanged among the boughs, and so dyed. [sic]". 90.194.215.189 ( talk) 20:51, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
The article states, 1) under the image: "The tower in Cardiff castle where Robert Curthose was confined for 26 years"; & 2) [in 1106] "Robert was imprisoned in Devizes Castle for twenty years before being moved to Cardiff." He couldn't have spent 20 years in the one and 26 in the other, considering that he died 28 years, not 46, after being captured and, unless Merlin had a hand in it, I don't think he could have been in two places at the same time. Philologick ( talk) 10:43, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I have an idea to add his ancestry:
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"Curthose" is given as a significant qualifier based upon his shortness of stature, but for the vast majority of English speakers, I can pretty much guarantee that this is cryptic indeed--and a far cry from anything remotely approaching a rationale for this description cum appellation. Perhaps a brief [no pun intended] explanation that "curthose" is anglofrench or whatever for "shortpants" would be worthwhile. Or perhaps even I don't "get it"... Tom e r talk 07:41, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Whoever did the original work on this page omitted to include a section on his wife and children, which really needs to be added. Maybe I'll have a chance to do that, but this really isn't my period. -- Michael K. Smith 20:23, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Surely this article is referring to Robert II rather than "Robert III, Duke of Normandy". I can cite Encyclopedia Brittanica on this point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ts1088 ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
His government (or misgovernment) of Normandy as well as his failed invasion of England proves that his military skills were better than his political skills.
This doesn't make sense. He "misgoverned" Normandy and failed to attract political support back at England making him a poor politician. His failures in the 1st Crusade and the invasion of England means that he wasn't exactly a Basil II either. So which is worse, his political skills or his military skills? The above sentence is anti-complimentary! Tourskin ( talk) 02:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Why is Henry of Normandy listed as issue without any reference in the text of the article. Robert's wife died after the birth of his first son, so I assume this reference is a mistake. I've tagged it as Citation Required for now. -- 89.105.112.194 ( talk) 15:51, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
For what is worth, Alison Weir mentions this Henry in "Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy", p. 44. Charles Cawley when commenting on the existence of this figure notes: "HENRI de Normandie (1101 after Jun-killed in the New Forest). He is named as second son of Duke Robert by Weir[276], although the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. Henri may have been Duke Robert's older legitimate son. Orderic Vitalis records the birth of a son to Robert and his wife in the year after the marriage was consummated in Normandy in Sep 1100. He does not name this son, but records the birth of the couple's son Guillaume "in the third year after his parents' marriage" in a later passage." Dimadick ( talk) 21:12, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
What is this image supposed to illustrate? It looks like a cyclops, not a human being, and not even a regular cyclops, since all it HAS is one eye – no other features at all on its face! How is such an image supposed to enhance a reader's understanding of this subject? It's ridiculous. I'm going to remove it.-- Jim10701 ( talk) 00:30, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I've twice reverted the addition of information here. It's not only already in the article, but consulting with the three biographies of Curthose as well as Hollister's article on the 1101 invasion - I find that no mention of the name of Curthose's ship, much less so much detail about what it's named after, is given. To put the information in the article ... you're going to need to justify why the name of the ship, which is not considered important to the three biographies of Curthose, is so vital to this article. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:00, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
This article states "Robert also had at least three illegitimate children – Richard, who died hunting in the New Forest in May 1100", whereas the New Forest article quotes a source, which says "...and Henry, [William I's] Grand-child, by Robert his eldest son, as he pursued his Game, was hanged among the boughs, and so dyed. [sic]". 90.194.215.189 ( talk) 20:51, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
The article states, 1) under the image: "The tower in Cardiff castle where Robert Curthose was confined for 26 years"; & 2) [in 1106] "Robert was imprisoned in Devizes Castle for twenty years before being moved to Cardiff." He couldn't have spent 20 years in the one and 26 in the other, considering that he died 28 years, not 46, after being captured and, unless Merlin had a hand in it, I don't think he could have been in two places at the same time. Philologick ( talk) 10:43, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I have an idea to add his ancestry:
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