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I've tidied things up a bit and added in subheadings. The article is very light on details about the gunpowder plot itself? surely this should be the main focus of the article. If anyone has any info please add. I also notice the lack of citations? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robkirby007 ( talk • contribs) 15:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
The link to William Catesby is not to Robert's father. I'm not sure how to do the disambiguation here, can anybody fix it? Eixo 01:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Quite right - deleted link.
How were the two famous Catesbys actually related? Jackiespeel ( talk) 19:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm confused - the text states he died three days after the discovery of the plot, surely this was November 5th, therefore he died November 18th....................
The link to Henry Morgan does not appear to be right. The Admiral Morgan linked does not appear to be the same fellow who died with Catesby. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.200.223 ( talk) 03:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
He was a Catholic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.141.83 ( talk) 14:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Is clearly a different one then the privateer so i removed the link —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.169.251.74 ( talk) 15:49, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
The lead is too brief and I think Guy Fawkes needs to be mentioned in the lead as well. His place of birth does not need to be in the lead but I think a mention of Parliament and King James should be there.-- Jeanne Boleyn ( talk) 12:47, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Robert Catesby's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "ODNB Thomas Wintour":
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help) (subscription required)I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 19:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Removed from the article and placed here: Parrot of Doom 20:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
She brought with her a considerable dowry of £2,000 per year and connected him with the fast-rising family of the Spencers. citation needed
This school, founded by Cardinal William Allen for the training of clergy for the English mission but extended to education of the laity, provided an austere and rigorous course of education in scholastic and moral theology, classical languages and the history of the English church. At the time the college used a textbook by the Jesuit Martín de Azpilcueta that dealt with the subject of casuistry, the employment of moral theology to particular cases, and with the circumstances that might excuse a normally forbidden course of action. This may have laid the foundation for Catesby's later theological questions and resolutions regarding the morality of the Plot. citation needed
As a man, Robert Catesby, in spite of his religious inclinations, was rich in friends and patrimony, loved and esteemed not only by Catholics but by Protestants for his many unusual qualities both physical and mental, and was part of the glamorous circle that surrounded the court, although in his youth he "was very wild, and ...he spent much above his rate". citation needed
However, although this shows that he may have compromised at certain times, it is indisputable that he always remained active in the Catholic cause. As early as 1594, the year after his marriage, he was sheltering Father Henry Garnet and other priests at his house, Morecrofts in Uxbridge at considerable risk. It was to here that Father John Gerard fled for sanctuary after his dramatic escape from the Tower of London in 1597, and where Father Persons' mother was living in 1598, which indicates that Catesby was at all times a highly trusted member of the Catholic community. citation needed
Reviewer: Nikkimaria ( talk) 03:31, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I'll be reviewing this article for possible GA status. My review should be posted shortly. Cheers, Nikkimaria ( talk) 03:31, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
No issues noted
No issues noted
Before I'm forced to delve into my books to check for mistakes, is there any merit to these changes? Parrot of Doom 18:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I tagged "Catesby and Percy were reportedly both dropped by a single lucky shot, while standing near the door." as dubious for obvious reasons; impossible to ascertain after four centuries and local lore (hence "reportedly") is inherently questionable. Quis separabit? 17:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Anyone have a problem with the sentence "James exiled all Jesuits and other Catholic priests, and reimposed the collection of fines for recusancy"? It's been in the article a while, and it's in other articles too, so I assume it's fine. A shorter version will be in the TFA on the 5th. - Dank ( push to talk) 19:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
The Notes sub-section doesn't contain any references, so it doesn't belong in a section called References. And there's no point in having another sub-section called Footnotes, because the notes are also footnotes. Richard75 ( talk) 18:34, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Calling out Kit Harington as a notable relative seems a bit weird for someone who likely has over 100,000 living collateral descendant; chances are he has descendants more notable than Harington. It may be better to title the section "Fictional portrayals" unless we have strong reason to believe there are not notable direct descendants, nor more notable collateral descendants. PoisonedPigeon ( talk) 10:31, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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I've tidied things up a bit and added in subheadings. The article is very light on details about the gunpowder plot itself? surely this should be the main focus of the article. If anyone has any info please add. I also notice the lack of citations? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robkirby007 ( talk • contribs) 15:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
The link to William Catesby is not to Robert's father. I'm not sure how to do the disambiguation here, can anybody fix it? Eixo 01:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Quite right - deleted link.
How were the two famous Catesbys actually related? Jackiespeel ( talk) 19:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm confused - the text states he died three days after the discovery of the plot, surely this was November 5th, therefore he died November 18th....................
The link to Henry Morgan does not appear to be right. The Admiral Morgan linked does not appear to be the same fellow who died with Catesby. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.200.223 ( talk) 03:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
He was a Catholic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.141.83 ( talk) 14:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Is clearly a different one then the privateer so i removed the link —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.169.251.74 ( talk) 15:49, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
The lead is too brief and I think Guy Fawkes needs to be mentioned in the lead as well. His place of birth does not need to be in the lead but I think a mention of Parliament and King James should be there.-- Jeanne Boleyn ( talk) 12:47, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Robert Catesby's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "ODNB Thomas Wintour":
{{
citation}}
: Check date values in: |accessdate=
(
help) (subscription required){{
citation}}
: Check date values in: |accessdate=
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help) (subscription required)I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 19:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Removed from the article and placed here: Parrot of Doom 20:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
She brought with her a considerable dowry of £2,000 per year and connected him with the fast-rising family of the Spencers. citation needed
This school, founded by Cardinal William Allen for the training of clergy for the English mission but extended to education of the laity, provided an austere and rigorous course of education in scholastic and moral theology, classical languages and the history of the English church. At the time the college used a textbook by the Jesuit Martín de Azpilcueta that dealt with the subject of casuistry, the employment of moral theology to particular cases, and with the circumstances that might excuse a normally forbidden course of action. This may have laid the foundation for Catesby's later theological questions and resolutions regarding the morality of the Plot. citation needed
As a man, Robert Catesby, in spite of his religious inclinations, was rich in friends and patrimony, loved and esteemed not only by Catholics but by Protestants for his many unusual qualities both physical and mental, and was part of the glamorous circle that surrounded the court, although in his youth he "was very wild, and ...he spent much above his rate". citation needed
However, although this shows that he may have compromised at certain times, it is indisputable that he always remained active in the Catholic cause. As early as 1594, the year after his marriage, he was sheltering Father Henry Garnet and other priests at his house, Morecrofts in Uxbridge at considerable risk. It was to here that Father John Gerard fled for sanctuary after his dramatic escape from the Tower of London in 1597, and where Father Persons' mother was living in 1598, which indicates that Catesby was at all times a highly trusted member of the Catholic community. citation needed
Reviewer: Nikkimaria ( talk) 03:31, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I'll be reviewing this article for possible GA status. My review should be posted shortly. Cheers, Nikkimaria ( talk) 03:31, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
No issues noted
No issues noted
Before I'm forced to delve into my books to check for mistakes, is there any merit to these changes? Parrot of Doom 18:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I tagged "Catesby and Percy were reportedly both dropped by a single lucky shot, while standing near the door." as dubious for obvious reasons; impossible to ascertain after four centuries and local lore (hence "reportedly") is inherently questionable. Quis separabit? 17:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Anyone have a problem with the sentence "James exiled all Jesuits and other Catholic priests, and reimposed the collection of fines for recusancy"? It's been in the article a while, and it's in other articles too, so I assume it's fine. A shorter version will be in the TFA on the 5th. - Dank ( push to talk) 19:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
The Notes sub-section doesn't contain any references, so it doesn't belong in a section called References. And there's no point in having another sub-section called Footnotes, because the notes are also footnotes. Richard75 ( talk) 18:34, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Calling out Kit Harington as a notable relative seems a bit weird for someone who likely has over 100,000 living collateral descendant; chances are he has descendants more notable than Harington. It may be better to title the section "Fictional portrayals" unless we have strong reason to believe there are not notable direct descendants, nor more notable collateral descendants. PoisonedPigeon ( talk) 10:31, 30 December 2022 (UTC)