![]() | This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
In september 1968,after a lot of heavy rain,the Wey ran amuk in Farnham,rising above South Street bridge.As a result of this,in the early'70s,the river was diverted,the coils in the water meadows being turned into a gentle curve,the weir in Gostrey Meadow dissappeared.East of South Street,a gentle curve or 2 were introduced and worst of all,the six foot drop dissappeared! I remember seeing the river suddenley turning 90 degrees,at a fall,which went down,over some steps.After itn turned,it went to another fall,which just dropped.This was right by the edge of the by-pass. 6' it was not,2'6",more like it,but whats in a name?Below the weirs,it was probably 4' deep,full of fish,chub,carp,bream,roach,dace and minnows. Now,there are chub,minnows and shopping trolleys! Does any one have any photos of the river as it was in the 60's,I would be pleased to see some,would be prepared to buy some,a soppy old wey lover
I'd like to remove the info about the canal which is different to the river. They run parallel and are intertwined but a river is different to a canal. I've made a new proper page for the canal. SuzanneKn 21:40, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
A couple of months ago I attempted to rename this article from River Wey to River Wey, Surrey. It was changed back; unfortunately this was done by editing rather than moving, thus losing the page history – now split between the two articles (see Help:Moving a page). Neither change was done with discussion. I suggest we now do discuss the name and decide what it should be.
The basic problem is that River Wey is the name of two rivers, which therefore need disambiguation. My view is that River Wey is not the appropriate name for the Surrey river, as the Dorset river also has a claim on it.
The solution that I attempted to implement (and which I ought to have discussed first) is to have River Wey as a dab, and move this page to River Wey, Surrey. This seems to me to be a straightforward application of MOS:DAB. The need to correct links from other articles is not a sufficient reason to keep a mis-named article.
Whatever the page is finally called, an admin's help will be needed to re-merge it with its history. Richard New Forest ( talk) 13:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
No revert has happened or debate since 2008/9. Just to add weight from map research, you can see the main English River Wey's south route rises just about in Sussex and both north and south routes drain parts of of eastern Hampshire. Overall with both north and south branches, the wey in Dorset is less than half as long, and has a population of its drainage basin including Weymouth of less than one fifth. Weymouth is a sea harbour with yachts and its rather unknown-to-visitors river partly behind. I therefore "move" to keep the status quo (I'm just reinforcing it). Incidentially Upwey has its attraction of the Wey, Dorset but its steep, picturesque rolling valley, apparently mirrors the Guildford gap; not that tourism is what wikipedia is for per WP:NOT. Adam37 ( talk) 11:08, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
There are many pictures and stories in BBC News about the flooding of the River Wey in Hampshire and Surrey. Example is some of the pictures in the URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25518359 Perhaps these should be added to this Wikipedia entry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.4.63.73 ( talk) 12:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
The second sentence of the lede currently reads (as of 6:05pm on 22nd July 2020):
One editor has suggested removing the "in Surrey" at the end of the sentence, on the grounds that the Tilford, Guildford and Farnham links 'suffice' and that "in Surrey" makes the sentence "too cluttered". From my perspective, I think that "in Surrey" should be included, because we give the counties of the two sources (Hampshire and West Sussex), but more importantly, the vast majority of the river is in Surrey. (In fact the majority of the west of the county is in the Wey drainage basin.) Please discuss and give your opinions on including the counties here. Mertbiol ( talk) 17:10, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
This section would be better placed in the geography section of the article on Surrey. Comments? Murgatroyd49 ( talk) 13:42, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Hmm . . I've been taking a look at the lengths of many British rivers as quoted in Wikipedia and, as often as not, determining that they have been underestimated. That's to say that the figures quoted from Owen et al or EB1911 or else from no obvious reference are often several miles shorter than painstaking measurements that I've made myself. As I've noted on other pages, my measurements are of course original research on my part so cannot be included in the article. I've arrived at each of the new figures by using an online digital tool using 1:25,000 scale OS mapping, cross-checked with aerial photography (wheresthepath website). I'm generally confident of the accuracy of my figures to within better than 1% - but would always welcome confirmation from other parties.
So, I can't put the figures I've derived into any article but they do at least give an idea of what a true figure should look like if and when an editor finds a suitable reference out there! Now when it came to the Wey, I expected something similar but found that I arrived at these figures:
Adding the figure for the longer south branch to that for the combined river gives 91km / 56 miles which is substantially different from the 140km / 87miles currently presented in the Wey's infobox. It is not immediately obvious what reference the article uses for the quoted river length. However I strongly suspect that higher figure is a result of combining lengths of both upper branches with that of the combined river along with the lengths of the various parallel anabranches - as further complicated by the presence of the Wey Navigation! That would fit with the EA-derived data provided in the table in the 'water quality' section. The EA's interest would be in the water quality (amongst other things) of the various branches rather than in fixing a 'common-sense' length for the Wey. Now that is the length of the river in one sense i.e. the combined length of all the individual sections of it, but hardly the length which most folks browsing the article would be expecting to find.
cheers Geopersona ( talk) 07:23, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
The article states that the origin of the name is unknown, however there is a possibilty that it could derive from the Old English word for river, ea, as in the suffixes of the rivers Welney and Waverney. See
The places so good they named them twice
Murgatroyd49 (
talk)
18:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Cite error: There are <ref group=n>
tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist|group=n}}
template (see the
help page).
![]() | This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
In september 1968,after a lot of heavy rain,the Wey ran amuk in Farnham,rising above South Street bridge.As a result of this,in the early'70s,the river was diverted,the coils in the water meadows being turned into a gentle curve,the weir in Gostrey Meadow dissappeared.East of South Street,a gentle curve or 2 were introduced and worst of all,the six foot drop dissappeared! I remember seeing the river suddenley turning 90 degrees,at a fall,which went down,over some steps.After itn turned,it went to another fall,which just dropped.This was right by the edge of the by-pass. 6' it was not,2'6",more like it,but whats in a name?Below the weirs,it was probably 4' deep,full of fish,chub,carp,bream,roach,dace and minnows. Now,there are chub,minnows and shopping trolleys! Does any one have any photos of the river as it was in the 60's,I would be pleased to see some,would be prepared to buy some,a soppy old wey lover
I'd like to remove the info about the canal which is different to the river. They run parallel and are intertwined but a river is different to a canal. I've made a new proper page for the canal. SuzanneKn 21:40, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
A couple of months ago I attempted to rename this article from River Wey to River Wey, Surrey. It was changed back; unfortunately this was done by editing rather than moving, thus losing the page history – now split between the two articles (see Help:Moving a page). Neither change was done with discussion. I suggest we now do discuss the name and decide what it should be.
The basic problem is that River Wey is the name of two rivers, which therefore need disambiguation. My view is that River Wey is not the appropriate name for the Surrey river, as the Dorset river also has a claim on it.
The solution that I attempted to implement (and which I ought to have discussed first) is to have River Wey as a dab, and move this page to River Wey, Surrey. This seems to me to be a straightforward application of MOS:DAB. The need to correct links from other articles is not a sufficient reason to keep a mis-named article.
Whatever the page is finally called, an admin's help will be needed to re-merge it with its history. Richard New Forest ( talk) 13:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
No revert has happened or debate since 2008/9. Just to add weight from map research, you can see the main English River Wey's south route rises just about in Sussex and both north and south routes drain parts of of eastern Hampshire. Overall with both north and south branches, the wey in Dorset is less than half as long, and has a population of its drainage basin including Weymouth of less than one fifth. Weymouth is a sea harbour with yachts and its rather unknown-to-visitors river partly behind. I therefore "move" to keep the status quo (I'm just reinforcing it). Incidentially Upwey has its attraction of the Wey, Dorset but its steep, picturesque rolling valley, apparently mirrors the Guildford gap; not that tourism is what wikipedia is for per WP:NOT. Adam37 ( talk) 11:08, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
There are many pictures and stories in BBC News about the flooding of the River Wey in Hampshire and Surrey. Example is some of the pictures in the URL: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25518359 Perhaps these should be added to this Wikipedia entry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.4.63.73 ( talk) 12:21, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
The second sentence of the lede currently reads (as of 6:05pm on 22nd July 2020):
One editor has suggested removing the "in Surrey" at the end of the sentence, on the grounds that the Tilford, Guildford and Farnham links 'suffice' and that "in Surrey" makes the sentence "too cluttered". From my perspective, I think that "in Surrey" should be included, because we give the counties of the two sources (Hampshire and West Sussex), but more importantly, the vast majority of the river is in Surrey. (In fact the majority of the west of the county is in the Wey drainage basin.) Please discuss and give your opinions on including the counties here. Mertbiol ( talk) 17:10, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
This section would be better placed in the geography section of the article on Surrey. Comments? Murgatroyd49 ( talk) 13:42, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Hmm . . I've been taking a look at the lengths of many British rivers as quoted in Wikipedia and, as often as not, determining that they have been underestimated. That's to say that the figures quoted from Owen et al or EB1911 or else from no obvious reference are often several miles shorter than painstaking measurements that I've made myself. As I've noted on other pages, my measurements are of course original research on my part so cannot be included in the article. I've arrived at each of the new figures by using an online digital tool using 1:25,000 scale OS mapping, cross-checked with aerial photography (wheresthepath website). I'm generally confident of the accuracy of my figures to within better than 1% - but would always welcome confirmation from other parties.
So, I can't put the figures I've derived into any article but they do at least give an idea of what a true figure should look like if and when an editor finds a suitable reference out there! Now when it came to the Wey, I expected something similar but found that I arrived at these figures:
Adding the figure for the longer south branch to that for the combined river gives 91km / 56 miles which is substantially different from the 140km / 87miles currently presented in the Wey's infobox. It is not immediately obvious what reference the article uses for the quoted river length. However I strongly suspect that higher figure is a result of combining lengths of both upper branches with that of the combined river along with the lengths of the various parallel anabranches - as further complicated by the presence of the Wey Navigation! That would fit with the EA-derived data provided in the table in the 'water quality' section. The EA's interest would be in the water quality (amongst other things) of the various branches rather than in fixing a 'common-sense' length for the Wey. Now that is the length of the river in one sense i.e. the combined length of all the individual sections of it, but hardly the length which most folks browsing the article would be expecting to find.
cheers Geopersona ( talk) 07:23, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
The article states that the origin of the name is unknown, however there is a possibilty that it could derive from the Old English word for river, ea, as in the suffixes of the rivers Welney and Waverney. See
The places so good they named them twice
Murgatroyd49 (
talk)
18:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Cite error: There are <ref group=n>
tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist|group=n}}
template (see the
help page).