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The article (currently) doesn't say anything about the effective range of rifle grenades... Geo Swan 08:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
This section seems rather incomplete, and possibly misleading. Grenade launchers were used by both sides during the first World War as well. It would be nice if someone with good reference material could flesh our the subject, or at least mention that they predate WWII -Don.Dragon —Preceding unsigned comment added by Don.Dragon ( talk • contribs) 17:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
it might be worth noting that che gueverras book on guerilla warfare mentions a similar method with molotov cocktails and shotguns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.4.245 ( talk) 08:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
The maximum range of a rifle grenade is about 400 m or 437 yards.Some have maximum range, far smaller than this number.The lack of precision and the terrible recoil, both sent rifle grenades to be less used, since World War II. Agre22 ( talk) 12:26, 11 July 2008 (UTC)agre22
Hi, I removed the advantage "training rounds are reusable" since it's also true for 40 mm grenades. There are 40 mm training rounds which uses a .38 special blank rounds to fire and other than needing to switch out the 0.38 special they are also reusable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.236.128.225 ( talk) 22:50, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
WWI not covered properly --------------------
Do you think we could have more on WWI please.
The use of rifle grenades, like trench mortars, lewis guns, gas, tanks 'planes etc was part in the major change to an all arms system that occurred by 1918. This article takes a very American viewpoint - as the US didn't enter the war until 1917, didn't take a large part in the fighting and couldn't successfully adapt the French V-B R.G. then this period seems to get ignored, even though this is the period that would interest the majority of students.
Any French, British or German student would be most interested in the development of the R.G. and the changed tactics for assaults and defence that occurred 1914-18. Anyone who has read the primary sources of those on the Western front in those years can see how significant a change this was. This is why some information on the weapons of the the Central Powers and the Entente allies and the resulting changes in tactics is vital to this article. It would be like ignoring Cambrai in the development of the tank simply because the US wasn't involved at that time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.140.41 ( talk) 23:46, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi everyone. How about making a list of rifle grenades and other barrel-fired devices and sorting it by decade of development or something? There are many articles for lots of rifle grenades with only a few being either linked to in the texts or mentioned in the "See also" section. I don't know how to do that, neither do I know if everybody agrees. I think it might be a useful addition as we're currently looking for a list of rifle grenades that are still in use. Might just start listing what I found in the article.
Rifle grenades:
"Makeshift" rifle grenades:
Other barrel-launched grenades:
Adapters:
Adding more data to the list would then be up to everybody willing to participate. Only a suggestion. Cheers. Schaf-- 178.0.216.176 ( talk) 22:03, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
I have added a performance table to this article. I don't know why it wasn't added earlier. Please, feel free to add additional information to the table.-- RAF910 ( talk) 21:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
I added mention of new product that launches cans of the soda and /or beer size but did not directly place a link to the product for concern of it crossing over into advertisement. The company is Xproducts. If another editor feels a link or a cite reference for product is needed. That company name and launcher will help bring up the company page for the product for any search engine and numerous reviews by firearms related news sources. 184.39.155.64 ( talk) 04:37, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
In the article is stated that By the late 1970s, rifle grenades and their launchers began to be replaced by dedicated grenade launchers. The Italians uses rifle grenades in the AR70/AR90. The French are still shooting rifle grenades with the FAMAS. Russians have rifle grenade adapters for the AK family. Brazil has been shooting rifle grenades since before the FAL and is still doing it today.
Maybe you meant By the late 1970s, US Armed forces began to replace rifle grenades and their launchers by dedicated grenade launchers. After all, I do not think the M16 can survive launching a rifle grenade. SupremeDalek ( talk) 14:14, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
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The procedure for use under the cup type and shoot through launcher does not include the step of attaching the cup to the rifle. I don't know at what point in the sequence that would occur, but it must be a necessary step. 184.145.113.182 ( talk) 20:03, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
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The article (currently) doesn't say anything about the effective range of rifle grenades... Geo Swan 08:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
This section seems rather incomplete, and possibly misleading. Grenade launchers were used by both sides during the first World War as well. It would be nice if someone with good reference material could flesh our the subject, or at least mention that they predate WWII -Don.Dragon —Preceding unsigned comment added by Don.Dragon ( talk • contribs) 17:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
it might be worth noting that che gueverras book on guerilla warfare mentions a similar method with molotov cocktails and shotguns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.4.245 ( talk) 08:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
The maximum range of a rifle grenade is about 400 m or 437 yards.Some have maximum range, far smaller than this number.The lack of precision and the terrible recoil, both sent rifle grenades to be less used, since World War II. Agre22 ( talk) 12:26, 11 July 2008 (UTC)agre22
Hi, I removed the advantage "training rounds are reusable" since it's also true for 40 mm grenades. There are 40 mm training rounds which uses a .38 special blank rounds to fire and other than needing to switch out the 0.38 special they are also reusable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.236.128.225 ( talk) 22:50, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
WWI not covered properly --------------------
Do you think we could have more on WWI please.
The use of rifle grenades, like trench mortars, lewis guns, gas, tanks 'planes etc was part in the major change to an all arms system that occurred by 1918. This article takes a very American viewpoint - as the US didn't enter the war until 1917, didn't take a large part in the fighting and couldn't successfully adapt the French V-B R.G. then this period seems to get ignored, even though this is the period that would interest the majority of students.
Any French, British or German student would be most interested in the development of the R.G. and the changed tactics for assaults and defence that occurred 1914-18. Anyone who has read the primary sources of those on the Western front in those years can see how significant a change this was. This is why some information on the weapons of the the Central Powers and the Entente allies and the resulting changes in tactics is vital to this article. It would be like ignoring Cambrai in the development of the tank simply because the US wasn't involved at that time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.140.41 ( talk) 23:46, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi everyone. How about making a list of rifle grenades and other barrel-fired devices and sorting it by decade of development or something? There are many articles for lots of rifle grenades with only a few being either linked to in the texts or mentioned in the "See also" section. I don't know how to do that, neither do I know if everybody agrees. I think it might be a useful addition as we're currently looking for a list of rifle grenades that are still in use. Might just start listing what I found in the article.
Rifle grenades:
"Makeshift" rifle grenades:
Other barrel-launched grenades:
Adapters:
Adding more data to the list would then be up to everybody willing to participate. Only a suggestion. Cheers. Schaf-- 178.0.216.176 ( talk) 22:03, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
I have added a performance table to this article. I don't know why it wasn't added earlier. Please, feel free to add additional information to the table.-- RAF910 ( talk) 21:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
I added mention of new product that launches cans of the soda and /or beer size but did not directly place a link to the product for concern of it crossing over into advertisement. The company is Xproducts. If another editor feels a link or a cite reference for product is needed. That company name and launcher will help bring up the company page for the product for any search engine and numerous reviews by firearms related news sources. 184.39.155.64 ( talk) 04:37, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
In the article is stated that By the late 1970s, rifle grenades and their launchers began to be replaced by dedicated grenade launchers. The Italians uses rifle grenades in the AR70/AR90. The French are still shooting rifle grenades with the FAMAS. Russians have rifle grenade adapters for the AK family. Brazil has been shooting rifle grenades since before the FAL and is still doing it today.
Maybe you meant By the late 1970s, US Armed forces began to replace rifle grenades and their launchers by dedicated grenade launchers. After all, I do not think the M16 can survive launching a rifle grenade. SupremeDalek ( talk) 14:14, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
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The procedure for use under the cup type and shoot through launcher does not include the step of attaching the cup to the rifle. I don't know at what point in the sequence that would occur, but it must be a necessary step. 184.145.113.182 ( talk) 20:03, 11 April 2023 (UTC)