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As you may know, the correct term for this condition is known as 'Osteomalacia. Several dictionary definitions refer to it as "Osteomalacia within Children" - but the illness is very unlikely to develop in adults because as you know, it is during growth, so may be a problem within people who have diseases which inhibit or elongate such growth periods. As you know, the wikipedia is about facts, and- through my experience, "Rickets" refers to an analogy to describe the condition; as you know, rickets are also the name of bolts used within large machinery, which, bend after years of pressure through steam, or etc.
If you wish to discuss this further, i am more than willing to talk to anyone concerned. Thank you for your concern. Spum 12:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
how widespread is vitamin D supplementation in milk? I know the US does it—who else? Vicki Rosenzweig
One of the Dictionary.com entries says that mental development may be premature? lysdexia 14:29, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I have been going through the list of orthopaedic conditions listed as stubs and suggesting this template for Orthopaedic Conditions (see
Talk:Orthopedic surgery)
Name
Definition
Synonyms
Incidence
Pathogenesis and predisposing factors
Pathology
Stages
Classification
Natural History/Untreated Prognosis
Clinical Features
Investigation
Non-Operative Treatment
Risks of Non-Operative Treatment
Prognosis following Non-Operative Treatment
Operative Treatment (Note that each operations should have its own wiki entry)
Risks of Operative Treatment
Prognosis Post Operation
Complications
Management
Prevention
History
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Mylesclough
06:11, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
I see Osteomalacia redirects to this page. I think it should (eventually) have a page to itself as it does occur in adults. -- Mylesclough 00:06, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
I would like to create a separate article about Congenital Rickets, which is particularly interesting in connection with child abuse. For instance referring to some articles like Rickets vs. Abuse. Algernon71 ( talk) 00:45, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Was this disease a problem historically on sailing vessels? - Falcon8765 ( talk) 08:36, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
You may be thinking of scurvy which is caused by a deficiency of vitamin C. Jemmers6 ( talk) 02:22, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Is there any source of the statement "The Greek derived word "rachitis" (ραχίτις, meaning "inflammation of the spine") was later adopted as the scientific term for rickets, due chiefly to the words' similarity in sound."? I can accept that the vulgar name is older than the medical term, but the idea that 'rachitis' was chosen to sound similar to 'rickets' seems pretty suspect. 95.117.222.116 ( talk) 22:33, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
???-- Pawyilee ( talk) 12:55, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
The introduction to the article seems wrong, half-quoting an article as definition of the disease, but the cited article appears to deal with specific cases of the disease and speaks of rickets in general as something already known. Can someone with the adequate medical knowledge write a proper introduction in appropriate style? Asuranceturix 14:10, 6 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asuranceturix ( talk • contribs)
Hyopercalcification fits the Norse Legends that Trolls would turn into stone if they stayed out in the sunlight. 101.171.213.67 ( talk) 07:01, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
How much sun (hours/day) do we need? 71.139.165.172 ( talk) 08:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
how much? अाा ( talk) 06:24, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
doi:10.1210/jc.2015-2175 JFW | T@lk 17:59, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
As noted above, the etymology seems suspect. It gives an origin in an Old English word despite the fact that it only became known in the 17th century ( Old English was till 1150). A derivation from Rachitis seemw much more likely. Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) ( talk) 11:41, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
In the table that accompanies Mineral (nutrient)#Elements considered possibly essential but not confirmed, excess Strontium is identified as "Rachitogenic", i.e. causing rickets. I've cut and pasted most of that remark, with reference, into Rickets. GeeBee60 ( talk) 16:45, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
I have cut this crank sentence with its two sketchy citations.
The vitamin D natural selection hypothesis suggests that vitamin D production from sunlight is a selective force for human skin color variation. [1] unreliable medical source? [2]References
- ^ Yuen, A.W.C.; Jablonski, N.G. (January 2010). "Vitamin D: In the evolution of human skin colour". Medical Hypotheses. 74 (1): 39–44. doi: 10.1016/j.mehy.2009.08.007. PMID 19717244.
- ^ Murray, F.G. (July–September 1934). "Pigmentation, Sunlight, and Nutritional Disease". American Anthropologist. 36 (3): 438–445. doi: 10.1525/aa.1934.36.3.02a00100.
GeeBee60 ( talk) 18:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
I came across a mention of "magnesium-dependent vitamin-D-resistant rickets" while browsing PubMed. I wonder if this is a real thing. Maybe it's worth a mention in the article. I'm not sure. --- CopperKettle 18:12, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
I have seen credible medical research papers that evaluate the amount of Vitamin-D in breast-milk and breastfed infants.
It was determined that breast-milk was a perfectly adequate source of infant Vitamin-D if the mothers Vitamin-D levels were at a natural level. In the one paper I think the level was around 114nmol/l (45.6ng/ml) and was used as one of the determinants of what should be a natural blood concentration (cannot find this link just now so the number is from memory). Another was investigating the health of children and came to the conclusion that supplementation of 160ug (6400IU) per day raised the blood levels of the mothers to around 125nmol/l (50ng/ml) and provided what the child needed.
So the blanket statement that breastfed infants need supplementation is proven false and should be corrected. The assumption is obviously wrong as Viramin-D supplements are a recent invention in human society and advanced rickets causes pelvic deformation to the point of making childbirth impossible. In fact this information is vital to understanding the error in Vitamin-D reporting. When the blood levels are natural the rest of the discussion becomes rational instead of trying to find ever more interesting ways to justify low supplementation doses that are not enough to generate rational trial results.
Another interesting paper (perhaps one of these below) mentioned that results with Vitamin-D2 were minor but results using Vitamin-D3 supplementation were clear so the difference should be noted, there is controversy on this still.
high-dose maternal supplementation as therapy to prevent hypovitaminosis D for both the mother and the nursing infant. Am J Clin Nutr 80:1752S–1758S
Bruce W. Hollis, Carol L. Wagner, Cynthia R. Howard, Myla Ebeling, Judy R. Shary, Pamela G. Smith, Sarah N. Taylor, Kristen Morella, Ruth A. Lawrence and Thomas C. Hulsey
Maternal vitamin D3 supplementation at 50 mg/d protects against low serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D in infants at 8 wk of age: a randomized controlled trial of 3 doses of vitamin D beginning in gestation and continued in lactation Kaitlin M March, Nancy N Chen, Crystal D Karakochuk, Antonia W Shand, Sheila M Innis, Peter von Dadelszen, Susan I Barr, Michael R Lyon, Susan J Whiting, Hope A Weiler, and Tim J Green
Idyllic press ( talk) 20:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Howdy I am a student and will be hanging around and editing this page. I have seen some comments on this page about rickets and osteomalacia and the difference and the confusion on if they are the same, and this page I believe is very beneficial because rickets is the term for vitamin D deficiency in children only while the osteomalacia is the correct term for vitamin D deficiency in adults, editing the page and making it more understandable would give the audience for the article a better understanding of the article and the difference between the two terms
Samanthajones101 ( talk) 01:38, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Howdy, I recently made a couple of edits for example I deleted the sentence that was there that did not have a reason to be. I thought that since it was already split into the subsections of the different treatments and it already mentions in those the most and least common that it was just extra.
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Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) and are typically
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 18 January 2022 and 10 May 2022. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Samanthajones101 (
article contribs).
As you may know, the correct term for this condition is known as 'Osteomalacia. Several dictionary definitions refer to it as "Osteomalacia within Children" - but the illness is very unlikely to develop in adults because as you know, it is during growth, so may be a problem within people who have diseases which inhibit or elongate such growth periods. As you know, the wikipedia is about facts, and- through my experience, "Rickets" refers to an analogy to describe the condition; as you know, rickets are also the name of bolts used within large machinery, which, bend after years of pressure through steam, or etc.
If you wish to discuss this further, i am more than willing to talk to anyone concerned. Thank you for your concern. Spum 12:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
how widespread is vitamin D supplementation in milk? I know the US does it—who else? Vicki Rosenzweig
One of the Dictionary.com entries says that mental development may be premature? lysdexia 14:29, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I have been going through the list of orthopaedic conditions listed as stubs and suggesting this template for Orthopaedic Conditions (see
Talk:Orthopedic surgery)
Name
Definition
Synonyms
Incidence
Pathogenesis and predisposing factors
Pathology
Stages
Classification
Natural History/Untreated Prognosis
Clinical Features
Investigation
Non-Operative Treatment
Risks of Non-Operative Treatment
Prognosis following Non-Operative Treatment
Operative Treatment (Note that each operations should have its own wiki entry)
Risks of Operative Treatment
Prognosis Post Operation
Complications
Management
Prevention
History
--
Mylesclough
06:11, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
I see Osteomalacia redirects to this page. I think it should (eventually) have a page to itself as it does occur in adults. -- Mylesclough 00:06, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
I would like to create a separate article about Congenital Rickets, which is particularly interesting in connection with child abuse. For instance referring to some articles like Rickets vs. Abuse. Algernon71 ( talk) 00:45, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Was this disease a problem historically on sailing vessels? - Falcon8765 ( talk) 08:36, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
You may be thinking of scurvy which is caused by a deficiency of vitamin C. Jemmers6 ( talk) 02:22, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Is there any source of the statement "The Greek derived word "rachitis" (ραχίτις, meaning "inflammation of the spine") was later adopted as the scientific term for rickets, due chiefly to the words' similarity in sound."? I can accept that the vulgar name is older than the medical term, but the idea that 'rachitis' was chosen to sound similar to 'rickets' seems pretty suspect. 95.117.222.116 ( talk) 22:33, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
???-- Pawyilee ( talk) 12:55, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
The introduction to the article seems wrong, half-quoting an article as definition of the disease, but the cited article appears to deal with specific cases of the disease and speaks of rickets in general as something already known. Can someone with the adequate medical knowledge write a proper introduction in appropriate style? Asuranceturix 14:10, 6 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asuranceturix ( talk • contribs)
Hyopercalcification fits the Norse Legends that Trolls would turn into stone if they stayed out in the sunlight. 101.171.213.67 ( talk) 07:01, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
How much sun (hours/day) do we need? 71.139.165.172 ( talk) 08:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
how much? अाा ( talk) 06:24, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
doi:10.1210/jc.2015-2175 JFW | T@lk 17:59, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
As noted above, the etymology seems suspect. It gives an origin in an Old English word despite the fact that it only became known in the 17th century ( Old English was till 1150). A derivation from Rachitis seemw much more likely. Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) ( talk) 11:41, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
In the table that accompanies Mineral (nutrient)#Elements considered possibly essential but not confirmed, excess Strontium is identified as "Rachitogenic", i.e. causing rickets. I've cut and pasted most of that remark, with reference, into Rickets. GeeBee60 ( talk) 16:45, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
I have cut this crank sentence with its two sketchy citations.
The vitamin D natural selection hypothesis suggests that vitamin D production from sunlight is a selective force for human skin color variation. [1] unreliable medical source? [2]References
- ^ Yuen, A.W.C.; Jablonski, N.G. (January 2010). "Vitamin D: In the evolution of human skin colour". Medical Hypotheses. 74 (1): 39–44. doi: 10.1016/j.mehy.2009.08.007. PMID 19717244.
- ^ Murray, F.G. (July–September 1934). "Pigmentation, Sunlight, and Nutritional Disease". American Anthropologist. 36 (3): 438–445. doi: 10.1525/aa.1934.36.3.02a00100.
GeeBee60 ( talk) 18:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
I came across a mention of "magnesium-dependent vitamin-D-resistant rickets" while browsing PubMed. I wonder if this is a real thing. Maybe it's worth a mention in the article. I'm not sure. --- CopperKettle 18:12, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
I have seen credible medical research papers that evaluate the amount of Vitamin-D in breast-milk and breastfed infants.
It was determined that breast-milk was a perfectly adequate source of infant Vitamin-D if the mothers Vitamin-D levels were at a natural level. In the one paper I think the level was around 114nmol/l (45.6ng/ml) and was used as one of the determinants of what should be a natural blood concentration (cannot find this link just now so the number is from memory). Another was investigating the health of children and came to the conclusion that supplementation of 160ug (6400IU) per day raised the blood levels of the mothers to around 125nmol/l (50ng/ml) and provided what the child needed.
So the blanket statement that breastfed infants need supplementation is proven false and should be corrected. The assumption is obviously wrong as Viramin-D supplements are a recent invention in human society and advanced rickets causes pelvic deformation to the point of making childbirth impossible. In fact this information is vital to understanding the error in Vitamin-D reporting. When the blood levels are natural the rest of the discussion becomes rational instead of trying to find ever more interesting ways to justify low supplementation doses that are not enough to generate rational trial results.
Another interesting paper (perhaps one of these below) mentioned that results with Vitamin-D2 were minor but results using Vitamin-D3 supplementation were clear so the difference should be noted, there is controversy on this still.
high-dose maternal supplementation as therapy to prevent hypovitaminosis D for both the mother and the nursing infant. Am J Clin Nutr 80:1752S–1758S
Bruce W. Hollis, Carol L. Wagner, Cynthia R. Howard, Myla Ebeling, Judy R. Shary, Pamela G. Smith, Sarah N. Taylor, Kristen Morella, Ruth A. Lawrence and Thomas C. Hulsey
Maternal vitamin D3 supplementation at 50 mg/d protects against low serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D in infants at 8 wk of age: a randomized controlled trial of 3 doses of vitamin D beginning in gestation and continued in lactation Kaitlin M March, Nancy N Chen, Crystal D Karakochuk, Antonia W Shand, Sheila M Innis, Peter von Dadelszen, Susan I Barr, Michael R Lyon, Susan J Whiting, Hope A Weiler, and Tim J Green
Idyllic press ( talk) 20:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Howdy I am a student and will be hanging around and editing this page. I have seen some comments on this page about rickets and osteomalacia and the difference and the confusion on if they are the same, and this page I believe is very beneficial because rickets is the term for vitamin D deficiency in children only while the osteomalacia is the correct term for vitamin D deficiency in adults, editing the page and making it more understandable would give the audience for the article a better understanding of the article and the difference between the two terms
Samanthajones101 ( talk) 01:38, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Howdy, I recently made a couple of edits for example I deleted the sentence that was there that did not have a reason to be. I thought that since it was already split into the subsections of the different treatments and it already mentions in those the most and least common that it was just extra.