TALK:RICHARD SMITH (PUBLIC HISTORIAN)

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A fact from Richard Smith (public historian) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 February 2024 ( check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that public historian Richard Smith called Henry David Thoreau the "first punk rocker"?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 19:38, 8 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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Richard Smith dressed as Thoreau

... that public historian Richard Smith (pictured) has been called "The Punk Rocker Who 'Becomes' Thoreau"? Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2010/10/the-punk-rocker-who-becomes-thoreau/65223/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ken Balcomb

Created by HouseOfChange ( talk). Self-nominated at 04:16, 16 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Richard Smith (public historian); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page. reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article looks all good, no copyvio and the only problem with sourcing I see is that ~~the quote in the quote box isn't referenced.~~ The hook is cited and looks OK to me, but having a backup hook that isn't the Atlantic headline might be good. BuySomeApples ( talk) 09:38, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Many thanks, @ BuySomeApples:. I fixed the quote box and made a few other changes. I have a two more hooks to suggest but neither, I think, as good as the original:

... that public historian Richard Smith called Thoreau "the first punk rocker"?
... that an interviewer wondered if public historian Richard Smith "might be the closest I’d get to a ghost"?

Both these are from a 2010 interview already cited in the article. HouseOfChange ( talk)

I like those options! This one seems ready to go. BuySomeApples ( talk) 02:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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