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What Lyman was excommunicated for was not "controversial"; it was already prohibited at the time (which doesn't mean somebody's not going to do it, obviously). Lyman acted contrary to practice and was excommunicated, meriting one line in the news, and that was it. He was later rebaptized into the LDS Church. I did not see any assertion of controversy in the article; everything was pretty clear (as I stated above), which is why I removed it from the category. That's like saying every Catholic priest involved in child molestation is "controversial", when in fact the person is doing something that is clearly against religious law. What's controversial about the RC issue is that the RC Church didn't do anything about it, though it clearly knew about it, whereas the LDS took action. However, if you've got a different set of criteria, I'd be glad to hear it, though I think the real issue is that the cat is excessively vague. MSJapan 20:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Surely the incidents discussed in this article constitute a "religious scandal" though, and is approrpiately categorized there. Imagine if an Apostle of the LDS Church was excommunicated today for practising polygamy. There is little doubt that the media would label this a "scandal" and that is would be widely seen as such. Why the attempts to remove the article from the "Religious Scandals" category then? - SESmith 21:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Lyman's mother was a Callister. Her mother was a Smith, a daughter of John Smith, who was the uncle of Joseph Smith the founder of Mormonism. Does this really make Lyman part of the Smith family though. I removed Francis M. Lyman from the category already, because the article did not even clearly mention that his wife was part of the Smith family, and that felt a bit much of a connection. So is Smith Family a category for all descendants of Asael Smith? John Pack Lambert ( talk) 01:44, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
George P. Lee is the most recently excommunicated LDS apostle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.179.60.96 ( talk) 15:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
The article forgets to mention that Richard R. Lyman invented one of the world's best address systems. [1] Jidanni ( talk) 23:28, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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What Lyman was excommunicated for was not "controversial"; it was already prohibited at the time (which doesn't mean somebody's not going to do it, obviously). Lyman acted contrary to practice and was excommunicated, meriting one line in the news, and that was it. He was later rebaptized into the LDS Church. I did not see any assertion of controversy in the article; everything was pretty clear (as I stated above), which is why I removed it from the category. That's like saying every Catholic priest involved in child molestation is "controversial", when in fact the person is doing something that is clearly against religious law. What's controversial about the RC issue is that the RC Church didn't do anything about it, though it clearly knew about it, whereas the LDS took action. However, if you've got a different set of criteria, I'd be glad to hear it, though I think the real issue is that the cat is excessively vague. MSJapan 20:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Surely the incidents discussed in this article constitute a "religious scandal" though, and is approrpiately categorized there. Imagine if an Apostle of the LDS Church was excommunicated today for practising polygamy. There is little doubt that the media would label this a "scandal" and that is would be widely seen as such. Why the attempts to remove the article from the "Religious Scandals" category then? - SESmith 21:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Lyman's mother was a Callister. Her mother was a Smith, a daughter of John Smith, who was the uncle of Joseph Smith the founder of Mormonism. Does this really make Lyman part of the Smith family though. I removed Francis M. Lyman from the category already, because the article did not even clearly mention that his wife was part of the Smith family, and that felt a bit much of a connection. So is Smith Family a category for all descendants of Asael Smith? John Pack Lambert ( talk) 01:44, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
George P. Lee is the most recently excommunicated LDS apostle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.179.60.96 ( talk) 15:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
The article forgets to mention that Richard R. Lyman invented one of the world's best address systems. [1] Jidanni ( talk) 23:28, 8 March 2024 (UTC)