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In 1948, RCA Victor was marketing black music under the name "Blues and Rhythm". ...In 1949, the term "Rhythm and Blues" replaced the Billboard category Harlem Hit Parade.
don't have a source but it goes sth like this: term "Blues and Rhythm" was coined in 1948 by RCA to replace "race records". In 1949 Jerry Wexler of Atlantic Records switched it to Rhythm and Blues and thought it sounded better. Atlantic was by far the biggest producer of records for blacks, RCA was behind them and a dozen indie labels that made records for black people, like King and Specialty and Chess and Federal and DeLuxe and Decca and sooo many others. They all grouped together and used the Atlantic Records term, and forgot RCA term, and in June of 1949 Billboard changed their list name. everybody thought RCA was for squares (whites) anyway. If a source could be found it would be great. Setenzatsu.2 ( talk) 17:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Is there a difference between this and Contemporary R&B? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.54.195.214 ( talk) 17:18, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Someone did so today... does everyone agree?
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Peter K Burian ( talk) 14:05, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Isn't soul music a subgenre of R&B? GogoLion ( talk) 12:24, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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I've removed mentions in the lead paragraphs of UK bands like Jimmy James and the Vagabonds, Geno Washington, Carl Douglas, and Hot Chocolate - although they all had some importance in the UK, it was relatively minor in the overall scheme of things, and Douglas and Hot Chocolate were primarily seen as pop musicians rather than R&B in any case. I've also removed mention of how the Who were promoted as "Maximum R&B" - again, it's an almost trivial fact in the context of R&B music as a whole. I'm still uncomfortable about the only bands being named in the lead being (white) British ones - they could and probably should be removed as well, but I'll wait and see if there are any more comments here first. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 11:06, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
"It referred to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music." and I am not really comfortable with Soul music being here. R&B was pretty well going along when soul arrives and although there is a lot of overlap to state that R&R "developed from" soul is, in my opinion, misleading. Carptrash ( talk) 20:19, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
R&b music when it first began 41.116.44.251 ( talk) 16:41, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
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In 1948, RCA Victor was marketing black music under the name "Blues and Rhythm". ...In 1949, the term "Rhythm and Blues" replaced the Billboard category Harlem Hit Parade.
don't have a source but it goes sth like this: term "Blues and Rhythm" was coined in 1948 by RCA to replace "race records". In 1949 Jerry Wexler of Atlantic Records switched it to Rhythm and Blues and thought it sounded better. Atlantic was by far the biggest producer of records for blacks, RCA was behind them and a dozen indie labels that made records for black people, like King and Specialty and Chess and Federal and DeLuxe and Decca and sooo many others. They all grouped together and used the Atlantic Records term, and forgot RCA term, and in June of 1949 Billboard changed their list name. everybody thought RCA was for squares (whites) anyway. If a source could be found it would be great. Setenzatsu.2 ( talk) 17:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Is there a difference between this and Contemporary R&B? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.54.195.214 ( talk) 17:18, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Someone did so today... does everyone agree?
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Peter K Burian ( talk) 14:05, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Isn't soul music a subgenre of R&B? GogoLion ( talk) 12:24, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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I've removed mentions in the lead paragraphs of UK bands like Jimmy James and the Vagabonds, Geno Washington, Carl Douglas, and Hot Chocolate - although they all had some importance in the UK, it was relatively minor in the overall scheme of things, and Douglas and Hot Chocolate were primarily seen as pop musicians rather than R&B in any case. I've also removed mention of how the Who were promoted as "Maximum R&B" - again, it's an almost trivial fact in the context of R&B music as a whole. I'm still uncomfortable about the only bands being named in the lead being (white) British ones - they could and probably should be removed as well, but I'll wait and see if there are any more comments here first. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 11:06, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
"It referred to music styles that developed from and incorporated electric blues, as well as gospel and soul music." and I am not really comfortable with Soul music being here. R&B was pretty well going along when soul arrives and although there is a lot of overlap to state that R&R "developed from" soul is, in my opinion, misleading. Carptrash ( talk) 20:19, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
R&b music when it first began 41.116.44.251 ( talk) 16:41, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
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