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I removed the statement of the picture which indicated that the Thai Ridgeback (a.k.a. Mha Kon Klab) and the Phu Quoc Dog were two separate breeds. They are actually one and the same dog, though different variations. Tbjornstad 10:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
"Simba Inja" sounds to me like Ndebele. "Lion dog" in Shona is "Shumba Imbwa". Can anybody verify this name in either language? -- Vhata 17:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I have noticed that some of the "Information" links point to individual breeders - to me it seems like advertising. Should we remove those links, form a "Breeders" links section or just leave it as it is? I would appreciate your feedback! -- 83.131.50.16 04:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I and a number of my friends have had Ridgeback-Mixes. Great family dogs! I added a section on these because of all the questions I've gotten (and fables I've had to correct) over the years. Someone might want to clean it up a bit with language to "separate" the mixes from the AKCs. A neighbor had one AKC male, and a year later the neighbor on the other side had a few half-Ridgebacks, from a mother who was never seen outdoors except in a locked dog run! We never actually CAUGHT the sire picking the locks, but . . . Anyway, we took one of the pups and then adopted another RR-Mix a couple of years later. It's been a while since I've had room for a dog (currently in a mobile home park in the middle of town), but have land in Nevada where I'll be building a house next year, and a Ridgeback or RR-Mix will be part of the family again. -- 64.122.31.130 21:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
hi looking for advice, ive recently bought a ridgeback and happily been walking him and training for up to 2 hours a day. He has responded fantastically!! Other dag walker of different breeds are telling me i should walk him onll 20 mins a day max..(4 months old) He has heaps of energy and i now feel like im neglecting him Can someone flag this article for having no citations please? Call me BingBong
Perhaps until the two contributers who added the contradictory sections about the breed killing lions can come to a consensus about whether it is a fable or real, it shouldn't be there. I'll remove it until someone sources it. (otherwise it's a fascinating claim, love to see it if it's factual!) Oh yeah, fer chrissakes people, register, pick a name and sign your comments. It only takes seconds and it's silly to see comments from ghosts. Batvette ( talk) 03:37, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
From what I know of this breed is that they were crossed with the hottentot hunting dogs, which were ridged. Legend has it that the hottentot dog was part Jackel. The hottentot's only bred the dogs with the ridge as it was the better hunter. I bred ridgebacks for many years and live with 8 of them, down from 15. Dereddog
Removed claim to originate in Africa based on Boyko et al (Complex population structure in African village dogs and its implications for inferring dog domestication history, PNAS 2009,
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/07/31/0902129106) "Among putatively African breeds, Pharaoh hounds, and Rhodesian ridgebacks clustered with non-native rather than indigenous African dogs, suggesting they have predominantly non-African origins." —Preceding
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May I know the kind of food neede for a healthy growth of theis breed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.204.40.15 ( talk) 17:00, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I believe that you picture is mis-captioned. my ridgeback is 7 months old and looks like a mature dog. You picture may be better caprioned at 8 weeks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.22.143.166 ( talk) 16:45, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Anon user just changed Great Dane to Greyhound in what the boer farmers xed with mastiffs to produce this breed. One book (New Encycl of the Dog) says that mastiffs & scent hounds were xed with existing native dogs to produce the breed. Anyone have any additional reliable sources? I suspect that this is one of those "no one really knows exactly" breeds, but it would be nice to be able to quote likely info. Elf | Talk 20:07, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Here is an online reference: [1] from the country of 'source' and what appears to be one of the best sources of information is: "The Definitive Rhodesian Ridgeback by David Helgesen" I personally would like to know which pointers were used - I am so sure that Vizsla must be in the blood, but how could I uncover if my opinion is accurate?! -- FierE ( talk) 08:38, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Consider removing the section claiming that a two allele inheritance model of a dominant gene cannot explain an incidence of less than 25% in the population. A recessive allele may be uncommon (especially if deliberately selected against by breeders) which would make the incidence of ridgeless dogs less than 25%. The "Punnett Square Model" would predict roughly 25% of the offspring of two heterozygous parents to be ridgeless, NOT 25% of the total population. Longdehua ( talk) 20:24, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
From the research I have done on the breed I have found that the caption for "Country of origin" on the right is a slight bit of mis-information. Much of the breeding was done by "CORNELIUS JOHANNES VAN ROOYEN (NELLIS)" who lived in Zimbabwe for most of this time and therefore the country of origin would be "Rhodesia".
However, the breed is listed as a South African breed; in any show, the flag displayed is the SA flag. The conflict I have is that the primary breed used to create this Ridgeback breed lived in the cape (far from Zimbabwe) with the Koi San and therefore the breed's ancestory is South Africa. As a compromise therefore, I suggest that a caption be added under "country of origin: Rhodesia" to read something like "Country of representation: South Africa" I leave this to the dog experts to decide. -- FierE ( talk) 08:25, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
South Rhodesia's name has fluctuated to just Rhodesia many times throughout history. So leave edits in. Do not add mini-flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrysUniverse ( talk • contribs) 01:50, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Moved back the page per Kennel Club Standard - as per AKC, Dog Breeds, Rhodesian Ridgeback. We use the names as given in breed standard. Hafspajen ( talk) 09:10, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
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Some of the information in this article is inaccurate. I request review. The first source is not working and the reference to "african lion hound" or "Rhodesian lion hound" throughout the article is inaccurate. The breed is Rhodesian Ridgeback and that is the correct name for the dog. It looks like this page maybe having some vandalism problems, which is why it is protected, but the information is still incorrect.
Here is a good source: http://ridgebackrescue.info/breed
My guess is someone is against breeding or has some other political agenda here. I am sorry this has happened wikipedia. Please fix it at earliest convenience
cody.joseph.mcnutt@gmail.com
24.8.141.254 ( talk) 05:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
The first two photos on this page (as at 25/5/14) are not standard Rhodesian Ridgeback dogs. Also, the characteristic 'ridgeback' is not apparent in either picture. I don't have an appropriate picture to insert instead - could anyone else supply breed standard photos for this page? Smittee ( talk) 14:23, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Note that the painting by Carl Friedrich Schulz (1796–1866) cannot be of a Rhodesian Ridgeback. The name "Rhodesia" was only coined after 1890 when the "Pioneer Column" of Cecil John Rhodes' British South Africa Company entered and occupied Mashonaland then Matabeleland. There were no Rhodesian Ridgebacks in 1866. 65.186.94.69 ( talk) 01:09, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
This dog is not a sighthound. -- Richard Hawkins 20:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
The Ridgeback is a Hound, not a Sighthound. It has such also been included in the Scent Hound category of Wikipedia. Please clear up these incongruities -- Richard Hawkins 02:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC).
The language in the section regarding this very debate is pretty conversational, it bears too much of the argument and too little fact. -D ( talk) 05:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
As a child I walked with Ridgebacks in the Rhodesian bush. They were very athletic and were noted for springing vertically to see above the long grass. As they reached the peak of their spring, their heads would swivel to catch sight of the movement of prey through the grass. "Sighthounds" or not, they have great sight and use it to pursue prey. 65.186.94.69 ( talk) 01:20, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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Initiated talk page, gave article a B class rating based on relatively good discussion of the Ridgeback. However, there definitely needs to be source citing (not performed since first formerly noted in September 2007). Also, IMHO the Wikipedia is not meant to be a listed of external sites, and the listings on the bottom need to be removed/cleaned up. Macboots ( talk) 04:55, 26 December 2007 (UTC) |
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From the article "Excessively harsh training methods, that might be tolerated by a sporting or working dog, will likely backfire on a Ridgeback." This statement requires further details, an explanation and annotations. What exactly does "backfire" mean. This is wording that I see frequently see when describing RR training but it requires further discussion or deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.220.196.194 ( talk) 14:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
My Rhodesian Ridgeback is of course very loyal and protective and barks loudly when she's with me and people approach the house. I've noticed that when people loudly and harshly yell at her to be quiet she barks louder even if they are a family member scolding her. Instead I have tried reassuring her that I'm safe and/or introducing her to whoever is approaching if practical. This is MUCH more effective and I don't want to entirely discourage her protectiveness either as I am a 68 year old great grandmother who lives alone. She is very gentle with babies and children and sociable with other dogs. aggression is not a problem, she is just loyal and protective. She's a great companion and very loving dog. GinaGersonChoquette ( talk) 22:40, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
I have a 5 year old Rhodesian Ridgeback/Shepherd mix spayed bitch who had one litter of 12 puppies. She is approximately 60 lbs and has had two episodes of blood tinged urine with fever and whining in pain/discomfort. She was treated by a vet with antibiotics, and given Tramadol for pain and an antiemetic (anti-nausea and vomiting). She was lethargic at the start of each course of meds but is back to her spunky, sweet, wonderful self and her urine appears normal with no apparent discomfort. My questions are about diet, health tendencies in this breed and prevention of further recurrent episodes. If anyone has any information or links to further reading that they can suggest I would be extremely grateful!! Thank you! Gina Choquette GinaGersonChoquette ( talk) 22:27, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
I removed the statement of the picture which indicated that the Thai Ridgeback (a.k.a. Mha Kon Klab) and the Phu Quoc Dog were two separate breeds. They are actually one and the same dog, though different variations. Tbjornstad 10:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
"Simba Inja" sounds to me like Ndebele. "Lion dog" in Shona is "Shumba Imbwa". Can anybody verify this name in either language? -- Vhata 17:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I have noticed that some of the "Information" links point to individual breeders - to me it seems like advertising. Should we remove those links, form a "Breeders" links section or just leave it as it is? I would appreciate your feedback! -- 83.131.50.16 04:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I and a number of my friends have had Ridgeback-Mixes. Great family dogs! I added a section on these because of all the questions I've gotten (and fables I've had to correct) over the years. Someone might want to clean it up a bit with language to "separate" the mixes from the AKCs. A neighbor had one AKC male, and a year later the neighbor on the other side had a few half-Ridgebacks, from a mother who was never seen outdoors except in a locked dog run! We never actually CAUGHT the sire picking the locks, but . . . Anyway, we took one of the pups and then adopted another RR-Mix a couple of years later. It's been a while since I've had room for a dog (currently in a mobile home park in the middle of town), but have land in Nevada where I'll be building a house next year, and a Ridgeback or RR-Mix will be part of the family again. -- 64.122.31.130 21:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
hi looking for advice, ive recently bought a ridgeback and happily been walking him and training for up to 2 hours a day. He has responded fantastically!! Other dag walker of different breeds are telling me i should walk him onll 20 mins a day max..(4 months old) He has heaps of energy and i now feel like im neglecting him Can someone flag this article for having no citations please? Call me BingBong
Perhaps until the two contributers who added the contradictory sections about the breed killing lions can come to a consensus about whether it is a fable or real, it shouldn't be there. I'll remove it until someone sources it. (otherwise it's a fascinating claim, love to see it if it's factual!) Oh yeah, fer chrissakes people, register, pick a name and sign your comments. It only takes seconds and it's silly to see comments from ghosts. Batvette ( talk) 03:37, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
From what I know of this breed is that they were crossed with the hottentot hunting dogs, which were ridged. Legend has it that the hottentot dog was part Jackel. The hottentot's only bred the dogs with the ridge as it was the better hunter. I bred ridgebacks for many years and live with 8 of them, down from 15. Dereddog
Removed claim to originate in Africa based on Boyko et al (Complex population structure in African village dogs and its implications for inferring dog domestication history, PNAS 2009,
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/07/31/0902129106) "Among putatively African breeds, Pharaoh hounds, and Rhodesian ridgebacks clustered with non-native rather than indigenous African dogs, suggesting they have predominantly non-African origins." —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
132.64.60.21 (
talk)
07:46, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
May I know the kind of food neede for a healthy growth of theis breed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.204.40.15 ( talk) 17:00, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I believe that you picture is mis-captioned. my ridgeback is 7 months old and looks like a mature dog. You picture may be better caprioned at 8 weeks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.22.143.166 ( talk) 16:45, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Anon user just changed Great Dane to Greyhound in what the boer farmers xed with mastiffs to produce this breed. One book (New Encycl of the Dog) says that mastiffs & scent hounds were xed with existing native dogs to produce the breed. Anyone have any additional reliable sources? I suspect that this is one of those "no one really knows exactly" breeds, but it would be nice to be able to quote likely info. Elf | Talk 20:07, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Here is an online reference: [1] from the country of 'source' and what appears to be one of the best sources of information is: "The Definitive Rhodesian Ridgeback by David Helgesen" I personally would like to know which pointers were used - I am so sure that Vizsla must be in the blood, but how could I uncover if my opinion is accurate?! -- FierE ( talk) 08:38, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Consider removing the section claiming that a two allele inheritance model of a dominant gene cannot explain an incidence of less than 25% in the population. A recessive allele may be uncommon (especially if deliberately selected against by breeders) which would make the incidence of ridgeless dogs less than 25%. The "Punnett Square Model" would predict roughly 25% of the offspring of two heterozygous parents to be ridgeless, NOT 25% of the total population. Longdehua ( talk) 20:24, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
From the research I have done on the breed I have found that the caption for "Country of origin" on the right is a slight bit of mis-information. Much of the breeding was done by "CORNELIUS JOHANNES VAN ROOYEN (NELLIS)" who lived in Zimbabwe for most of this time and therefore the country of origin would be "Rhodesia".
However, the breed is listed as a South African breed; in any show, the flag displayed is the SA flag. The conflict I have is that the primary breed used to create this Ridgeback breed lived in the cape (far from Zimbabwe) with the Koi San and therefore the breed's ancestory is South Africa. As a compromise therefore, I suggest that a caption be added under "country of origin: Rhodesia" to read something like "Country of representation: South Africa" I leave this to the dog experts to decide. -- FierE ( talk) 08:25, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
South Rhodesia's name has fluctuated to just Rhodesia many times throughout history. So leave edits in. Do not add mini-flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrysUniverse ( talk • contribs) 01:50, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Moved back the page per Kennel Club Standard - as per AKC, Dog Breeds, Rhodesian Ridgeback. We use the names as given in breed standard. Hafspajen ( talk) 09:10, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
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You should put that the dark mask on their faces is known as a melanistic mask without the need of clicking the link. Ajkollmer88 ( talk) 20:41, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
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Some of the information in this article is inaccurate. I request review. The first source is not working and the reference to "african lion hound" or "Rhodesian lion hound" throughout the article is inaccurate. The breed is Rhodesian Ridgeback and that is the correct name for the dog. It looks like this page maybe having some vandalism problems, which is why it is protected, but the information is still incorrect.
Here is a good source: http://ridgebackrescue.info/breed
My guess is someone is against breeding or has some other political agenda here. I am sorry this has happened wikipedia. Please fix it at earliest convenience
cody.joseph.mcnutt@gmail.com
24.8.141.254 ( talk) 05:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
The first two photos on this page (as at 25/5/14) are not standard Rhodesian Ridgeback dogs. Also, the characteristic 'ridgeback' is not apparent in either picture. I don't have an appropriate picture to insert instead - could anyone else supply breed standard photos for this page? Smittee ( talk) 14:23, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Note that the painting by Carl Friedrich Schulz (1796–1866) cannot be of a Rhodesian Ridgeback. The name "Rhodesia" was only coined after 1890 when the "Pioneer Column" of Cecil John Rhodes' British South Africa Company entered and occupied Mashonaland then Matabeleland. There were no Rhodesian Ridgebacks in 1866. 65.186.94.69 ( talk) 01:09, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
This dog is not a sighthound. -- Richard Hawkins 20:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
The Ridgeback is a Hound, not a Sighthound. It has such also been included in the Scent Hound category of Wikipedia. Please clear up these incongruities -- Richard Hawkins 02:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC).
The language in the section regarding this very debate is pretty conversational, it bears too much of the argument and too little fact. -D ( talk) 05:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
As a child I walked with Ridgebacks in the Rhodesian bush. They were very athletic and were noted for springing vertically to see above the long grass. As they reached the peak of their spring, their heads would swivel to catch sight of the movement of prey through the grass. "Sighthounds" or not, they have great sight and use it to pursue prey. 65.186.94.69 ( talk) 01:20, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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Initiated talk page, gave article a B class rating based on relatively good discussion of the Ridgeback. However, there definitely needs to be source citing (not performed since first formerly noted in September 2007). Also, IMHO the Wikipedia is not meant to be a listed of external sites, and the listings on the bottom need to be removed/cleaned up. Macboots ( talk) 04:55, 26 December 2007 (UTC) |
Substituted at 05:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
From the article "Excessively harsh training methods, that might be tolerated by a sporting or working dog, will likely backfire on a Ridgeback." This statement requires further details, an explanation and annotations. What exactly does "backfire" mean. This is wording that I see frequently see when describing RR training but it requires further discussion or deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.220.196.194 ( talk) 14:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
My Rhodesian Ridgeback is of course very loyal and protective and barks loudly when she's with me and people approach the house. I've noticed that when people loudly and harshly yell at her to be quiet she barks louder even if they are a family member scolding her. Instead I have tried reassuring her that I'm safe and/or introducing her to whoever is approaching if practical. This is MUCH more effective and I don't want to entirely discourage her protectiveness either as I am a 68 year old great grandmother who lives alone. She is very gentle with babies and children and sociable with other dogs. aggression is not a problem, she is just loyal and protective. She's a great companion and very loving dog. GinaGersonChoquette ( talk) 22:40, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
I have a 5 year old Rhodesian Ridgeback/Shepherd mix spayed bitch who had one litter of 12 puppies. She is approximately 60 lbs and has had two episodes of blood tinged urine with fever and whining in pain/discomfort. She was treated by a vet with antibiotics, and given Tramadol for pain and an antiemetic (anti-nausea and vomiting). She was lethargic at the start of each course of meds but is back to her spunky, sweet, wonderful self and her urine appears normal with no apparent discomfort. My questions are about diet, health tendencies in this breed and prevention of further recurrent episodes. If anyone has any information or links to further reading that they can suggest I would be extremely grateful!! Thank you! Gina Choquette GinaGersonChoquette ( talk) 22:27, 26 November 2016 (UTC)