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This article seems extremely confused and confusing. It presents "revolutionary nationalism" as if it were a single, identifiable political movement, but in fact it is a non-specific label used by a wide variety of sources for a wide variety of different things.
A search on Google scholar for "revolutionary nationalism" returns a paper on Amilcar Cabral as the first result, and further results include papers on the nationalism of the French Revolution, Irish republican nationalism, "the revolutionary nationalism of Sun Yat-sen", the Black Panther Party, "revolutionary nationalism in Bolivia, 1952–85", nationalism during the Mexican revolution, etc. etc. All of them seem to use the term "revolutionary nationalism" without any specific definition, to refer simply to the intersection of the concepts "nationalism" and "revolution". To the extent that any common theme emerges, "revolutionary nationalism" seems to be typically used to refer to Third World anti-colonial movements.
I also did a search on JStor, with similar results. The first few results I found were: a book chapter about Chinese immigrants in the early 20th century US and their relationship with nationalist movements in China, a book chapter called "Revolutionary nationalism in contemporary Russia" (from 2018), an article called "Revolutionary Nationalism in Jharkhand", a chapter from a book about a Puerto Rican movement in Chicago, another about Japan, etc. This time there is no obvious common theme at all. Again, "revolutionary nationalism" simply seems to mean the intersection of the concepts "nationalism" and "revolution".
The French Wikipedia article "Nationalisme révolutionnaire", linked in the "expand" template, refers to the movement that is covered by the English article Revolutionary Nationalist Groups. In other words, it's about a post-World War II Third Positionist movement.
So... What is revolutionary nationalism? Hard to say. But it's definitely not what this article pretends it is - a clearly defined term for the nationalism of Benito Mussolini and related groups in late 19th century / early 20th century Italy and Europe.
I intend to start checking the sources used in this article to see what they really say, but I doubt that will solve the problem. It's clear that the term "revolutionary nationalism" has no single meaning, and each source uses it to mean something different. What can we do in this situation? Should this article simply be a redirect back to nationalism? Should we restructure it to say, basically, "this author calls this thing revolutionary nationalism, this other author calls this other thing revolutionary nationalism, this third author..."? Tglat ( talk) 06:06, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
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This article seems extremely confused and confusing. It presents "revolutionary nationalism" as if it were a single, identifiable political movement, but in fact it is a non-specific label used by a wide variety of sources for a wide variety of different things.
A search on Google scholar for "revolutionary nationalism" returns a paper on Amilcar Cabral as the first result, and further results include papers on the nationalism of the French Revolution, Irish republican nationalism, "the revolutionary nationalism of Sun Yat-sen", the Black Panther Party, "revolutionary nationalism in Bolivia, 1952–85", nationalism during the Mexican revolution, etc. etc. All of them seem to use the term "revolutionary nationalism" without any specific definition, to refer simply to the intersection of the concepts "nationalism" and "revolution". To the extent that any common theme emerges, "revolutionary nationalism" seems to be typically used to refer to Third World anti-colonial movements.
I also did a search on JStor, with similar results. The first few results I found were: a book chapter about Chinese immigrants in the early 20th century US and their relationship with nationalist movements in China, a book chapter called "Revolutionary nationalism in contemporary Russia" (from 2018), an article called "Revolutionary Nationalism in Jharkhand", a chapter from a book about a Puerto Rican movement in Chicago, another about Japan, etc. This time there is no obvious common theme at all. Again, "revolutionary nationalism" simply seems to mean the intersection of the concepts "nationalism" and "revolution".
The French Wikipedia article "Nationalisme révolutionnaire", linked in the "expand" template, refers to the movement that is covered by the English article Revolutionary Nationalist Groups. In other words, it's about a post-World War II Third Positionist movement.
So... What is revolutionary nationalism? Hard to say. But it's definitely not what this article pretends it is - a clearly defined term for the nationalism of Benito Mussolini and related groups in late 19th century / early 20th century Italy and Europe.
I intend to start checking the sources used in this article to see what they really say, but I doubt that will solve the problem. It's clear that the term "revolutionary nationalism" has no single meaning, and each source uses it to mean something different. What can we do in this situation? Should this article simply be a redirect back to nationalism? Should we restructure it to say, basically, "this author calls this thing revolutionary nationalism, this other author calls this other thing revolutionary nationalism, this third author..."? Tglat ( talk) 06:06, 2 December 2020 (UTC)