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I propose we merge both
kickoff returner and
punt returner into this page. While I'm aware that not every punt returner is also a kickoff returner and vice-versa, I think both articles' contents can be explained in this one page. There's really nothing that could be said on either page that couldn't also be said here.
Lizard (
talk) 22:11, 23 February 2016 (UTC)reply
100% agreed. Just have it the way the
safety article is written. ~
Dissident93 (
talk) 01:07, 24 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Sounds like a good idea to merge the three articles.
Jweiss11 (
talk) 02:29, 24 February 2016 (UTC)reply
All three articles even use an image of the same player.
Lizard (
talk) 03:20, 24 February 2016 (UTC)reply
I made the shift article. Motion and shift are pretty distinct, as the person who made the motion article tried to tease out, and I wouldn't think "pre snap movement" deserves an article. A shift changes the formation, a motion is one dude flowing within a formation. You won't ever hear a receiver roaming called a shift, and you won't hear any of the historical shifts listed called a motion. My dogmatism there aside, I agree it should be gone over. I've tried to repair it in various ways.
Cake (
talk) 10:16, 25 February 2016 (UTC)reply
I disagree. You can see in the german Wikipedia, that there are different aspects to tell on both positions.--
JTCEPB (
talk) 20:07, 4 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Can you translate some of that info into the English articles to support this?
Lizard (
talk) 20:33, 4 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Support merge. Clearly a good idea given the state of all three articles and the significant overlap. ~ RobTalk 23:15, 14 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I went ahead and merged. It's only my second or third time merging articles so it's possible I left something behind. I also removed some obvious peacocks and weasels and added reference tags.
Lizard (
talk) 01:27, 15 April 2016 (UTC)reply
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I propose we merge both
kickoff returner and
punt returner into this page. While I'm aware that not every punt returner is also a kickoff returner and vice-versa, I think both articles' contents can be explained in this one page. There's really nothing that could be said on either page that couldn't also be said here.
Lizard (
talk) 22:11, 23 February 2016 (UTC)reply
100% agreed. Just have it the way the
safety article is written. ~
Dissident93 (
talk) 01:07, 24 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Sounds like a good idea to merge the three articles.
Jweiss11 (
talk) 02:29, 24 February 2016 (UTC)reply
All three articles even use an image of the same player.
Lizard (
talk) 03:20, 24 February 2016 (UTC)reply
I made the shift article. Motion and shift are pretty distinct, as the person who made the motion article tried to tease out, and I wouldn't think "pre snap movement" deserves an article. A shift changes the formation, a motion is one dude flowing within a formation. You won't ever hear a receiver roaming called a shift, and you won't hear any of the historical shifts listed called a motion. My dogmatism there aside, I agree it should be gone over. I've tried to repair it in various ways.
Cake (
talk) 10:16, 25 February 2016 (UTC)reply
I disagree. You can see in the german Wikipedia, that there are different aspects to tell on both positions.--
JTCEPB (
talk) 20:07, 4 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Can you translate some of that info into the English articles to support this?
Lizard (
talk) 20:33, 4 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Support merge. Clearly a good idea given the state of all three articles and the significant overlap. ~ RobTalk 23:15, 14 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I went ahead and merged. It's only my second or third time merging articles so it's possible I left something behind. I also removed some obvious peacocks and weasels and added reference tags.
Lizard (
talk) 01:27, 15 April 2016 (UTC)reply