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I've noticed that there appears to be a discrepancy between the flag [1] presented with the article, which is described in the caption as representing the "Republic of Canada" and a flag [2] appearing on the website linked at the bottom of the article, [3] which is labelled as being that of the "Republic of Canada". Considering that that website is at present the only source of information we are provided with in order to substantiate the claim at hand, in my opinion, the apparent discrepancy should be treated seriously. The version with the word "Liberty" appearing on it is described on the site as the "Upper Canada Reformist flag", a more generalized descriptor than the one for the other flag containing the two stars and a crescent shape, which is clearly ascribed to the "Republic of Canada". Perhaps the "Liberty" flag which is currently presented with the article is in fact that of the general "reformist" or "radical" movement itself, while the other is in reality that of the Republic of Canada. In my opinion, we should either replace the existing one in the article with the more solidly referenced alternative, or provide reliable substantiation for the version we're currently displaying. cheers Deconstructhis ( talk) 07:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Right, weighing in on the flag dispute. Huge thank you to User:Mapleski back in 2009 for putting just enough information on his talk page post for me to get a source, although it does appear that account is now inactive. The flag on the masthead of "The Rochester Volunteer" from 1841 is definitely the "Liberty Two Star" flag, and not the French Inspired flag. I'll leave the WP:Dispute up though. WanukeX ( talk) 00:03, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
“This version is based on a captured sketch of the flag carried by rebels”, is there a source for that? WanukeX ( talk) 12:26, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
The infobox gives the impression that there was one entity called the Republic Of Canada, lasting from Dec. 17 1837 to Dec. 4 1838.
In fact, the republic proclaimed by Mackenzie on Navy Island ended, for all practical purposes, on Jan. 13 1838. And if I'm understanding the history correctly, the Hunters' Republic Of Canada wasn't proclaimed until Sept. of that year.
I know the two "republics" pretty much existed only in the minds of the people who proclaimed them, and the Hunters likely considered themselves the heirs to Mackenzie. But still, as far as ad hoc pseudo-nations go, they seemed, in practice, to have separate existences. LeftAlberta1968 ( talk) 01:43, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Canadian Republic and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#Canadian Republic until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Privybst ( talk) 12:31, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Reopening it, again. We've had the flags removed, we've had each flag on its own before, we've had both flags side by side with an explanation of the dispute before. I personally am in favour of both flags with an explanation of the dispute. They both have sources per WP:REF.
- French Tricolour Flag - Used at the Fort Malden National Historic Site by the Government of Canada, and at https://tilife.org/ThePlace/History/HistoryArticles/tabid/484/articleType/ArticleView/ArticleID/357/PageID/390/Default.html
- "Liberty" Two Star Flag - Published by William Lyon Mackenzie in 1841 in The Rochester Volunteer at https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=tvutLEwYQz8C&dat=18410417&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
I also want to remind people this dispute isn't about your favourite flag, it's about what the sources say, and with what we currently have, it's pretty clear the answer is "the sources are disputed and we shouldn't be making the judgement call". WanukeX ( talk) 13:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
I think we should go with the determination made by the Fort Malden Historic Site. The "Liberty" flag appears to be apocryphal. [4] Wellington Bay ( talk) 17:00, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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I've noticed that there appears to be a discrepancy between the flag [1] presented with the article, which is described in the caption as representing the "Republic of Canada" and a flag [2] appearing on the website linked at the bottom of the article, [3] which is labelled as being that of the "Republic of Canada". Considering that that website is at present the only source of information we are provided with in order to substantiate the claim at hand, in my opinion, the apparent discrepancy should be treated seriously. The version with the word "Liberty" appearing on it is described on the site as the "Upper Canada Reformist flag", a more generalized descriptor than the one for the other flag containing the two stars and a crescent shape, which is clearly ascribed to the "Republic of Canada". Perhaps the "Liberty" flag which is currently presented with the article is in fact that of the general "reformist" or "radical" movement itself, while the other is in reality that of the Republic of Canada. In my opinion, we should either replace the existing one in the article with the more solidly referenced alternative, or provide reliable substantiation for the version we're currently displaying. cheers Deconstructhis ( talk) 07:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Right, weighing in on the flag dispute. Huge thank you to User:Mapleski back in 2009 for putting just enough information on his talk page post for me to get a source, although it does appear that account is now inactive. The flag on the masthead of "The Rochester Volunteer" from 1841 is definitely the "Liberty Two Star" flag, and not the French Inspired flag. I'll leave the WP:Dispute up though. WanukeX ( talk) 00:03, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
“This version is based on a captured sketch of the flag carried by rebels”, is there a source for that? WanukeX ( talk) 12:26, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
The infobox gives the impression that there was one entity called the Republic Of Canada, lasting from Dec. 17 1837 to Dec. 4 1838.
In fact, the republic proclaimed by Mackenzie on Navy Island ended, for all practical purposes, on Jan. 13 1838. And if I'm understanding the history correctly, the Hunters' Republic Of Canada wasn't proclaimed until Sept. of that year.
I know the two "republics" pretty much existed only in the minds of the people who proclaimed them, and the Hunters likely considered themselves the heirs to Mackenzie. But still, as far as ad hoc pseudo-nations go, they seemed, in practice, to have separate existences. LeftAlberta1968 ( talk) 01:43, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Canadian Republic and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#Canadian Republic until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Privybst ( talk) 12:31, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Reopening it, again. We've had the flags removed, we've had each flag on its own before, we've had both flags side by side with an explanation of the dispute before. I personally am in favour of both flags with an explanation of the dispute. They both have sources per WP:REF.
- French Tricolour Flag - Used at the Fort Malden National Historic Site by the Government of Canada, and at https://tilife.org/ThePlace/History/HistoryArticles/tabid/484/articleType/ArticleView/ArticleID/357/PageID/390/Default.html
- "Liberty" Two Star Flag - Published by William Lyon Mackenzie in 1841 in The Rochester Volunteer at https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=tvutLEwYQz8C&dat=18410417&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
I also want to remind people this dispute isn't about your favourite flag, it's about what the sources say, and with what we currently have, it's pretty clear the answer is "the sources are disputed and we shouldn't be making the judgement call". WanukeX ( talk) 13:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
I think we should go with the determination made by the Fort Malden Historic Site. The "Liberty" flag appears to be apocryphal. [4] Wellington Bay ( talk) 17:00, 17 June 2024 (UTC)