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I've put the notability tag back up here and it will stay until notability has been met. As of now I don't think 1 cited source and 3 references amounting to a couple small paragraphs worth of information is notable. Notability guidlines say that "a topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" and I don't think what is included proves significant coverage. This does not mean that this article cannot be notable but as of right now it does not display meet notability guidelines.
However I would be in favor of merging the 2 schismatic articles into a broader article such as Schisms (The Church of Jesus Christ) that could include both church's and more information. I think it would be better to do that since there seems to be a link between the 1907 and 1914 groups. JRN 16:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Accuracy might help yours. Your comment from Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ#Schisms:
From the restoration up until today many people have left the church and tried to either found their own church or joined with another organization. I don't think it's necessary to cover all of the "schisms" just because people disagreed and left. You seem to be making a big deal about everything and trying to find faults with the church so that you can feel substatiated in your arguements that we have "glossed over" because it would hurt our faith too much to know that someone who lead the church was a man and had faults. It's your assumptions and not mine that are detrimental to the discussions here. I hope you can see the hypocrisy in your arguements.
I'm just going to sit here and soak up the irony of your comments. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 08:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm not going to be reading, much less responding to, any of the comments here for awhile due to real life duties, so any comments should be directed to the community at large regarding the article if they are to have any utility. Cheers. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 21:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I've added the template {Template:Citation needed}, which from your original edit summaries seemed to be your concern and what you were getting at. The article has sources to establish notability, but there are no specific footnotes yet for most of the individual sentences. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 23:23, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
What should we move the page to in order to avoid using an offensive term. Howabout just (William Bickerton)? I am making the change now because the term is offensive and I am bold. We can discuss the final location -- I am open to it being something else but this just eliminates the offensive term. Jcg5029 05:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was move Duja ► 07:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm proposing that the name of the article be changed back to having the "Bickertonite" DAB, mainly for the purposes of consistency for articles in Category:Rigdonite-Bickertonite movement. We don't need to rehash the discussion that recently took place at Talk:Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite) about whether or not the term is or is not offensive. Right now, the term is used in categories and articles, so I'm proposing this as more of a housekeeping issue than anything. Snocrates 03:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Even if the name of the parent changes the change should still go through. This church is best known by the proposed name, and the sources that are referenced which I have accessed use that name. There's no real significant difference between "Bickerton" and "Bickertonite", except that "Bickerton" is not terribly helpful as a disambiguator because the church really had nothing to do with the man William Bickerton. It is, however, part of the "Bickertonite movement". Snocrates 02:30, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
If you'd examine some of the referenced sources you may discover otherwise. Snocrates 08:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus to merge.
This is a very small and defunct group in the Latter Day Saint movement. I propose that it be merged with the Primitive Church of Jesus Christ because they, in fact, merged with them. I feel it would add depth to the pages themselves. Jcg5029 02:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
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I've put the notability tag back up here and it will stay until notability has been met. As of now I don't think 1 cited source and 3 references amounting to a couple small paragraphs worth of information is notable. Notability guidlines say that "a topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" and I don't think what is included proves significant coverage. This does not mean that this article cannot be notable but as of right now it does not display meet notability guidelines.
However I would be in favor of merging the 2 schismatic articles into a broader article such as Schisms (The Church of Jesus Christ) that could include both church's and more information. I think it would be better to do that since there seems to be a link between the 1907 and 1914 groups. JRN 16:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Accuracy might help yours. Your comment from Talk:The Church of Jesus Christ#Schisms:
From the restoration up until today many people have left the church and tried to either found their own church or joined with another organization. I don't think it's necessary to cover all of the "schisms" just because people disagreed and left. You seem to be making a big deal about everything and trying to find faults with the church so that you can feel substatiated in your arguements that we have "glossed over" because it would hurt our faith too much to know that someone who lead the church was a man and had faults. It's your assumptions and not mine that are detrimental to the discussions here. I hope you can see the hypocrisy in your arguements.
I'm just going to sit here and soak up the irony of your comments. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 08:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm not going to be reading, much less responding to, any of the comments here for awhile due to real life duties, so any comments should be directed to the community at large regarding the article if they are to have any utility. Cheers. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 21:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I've added the template {Template:Citation needed}, which from your original edit summaries seemed to be your concern and what you were getting at. The article has sources to establish notability, but there are no specific footnotes yet for most of the individual sentences. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 23:23, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
What should we move the page to in order to avoid using an offensive term. Howabout just (William Bickerton)? I am making the change now because the term is offensive and I am bold. We can discuss the final location -- I am open to it being something else but this just eliminates the offensive term. Jcg5029 05:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was move Duja ► 07:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm proposing that the name of the article be changed back to having the "Bickertonite" DAB, mainly for the purposes of consistency for articles in Category:Rigdonite-Bickertonite movement. We don't need to rehash the discussion that recently took place at Talk:Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite) about whether or not the term is or is not offensive. Right now, the term is used in categories and articles, so I'm proposing this as more of a housekeeping issue than anything. Snocrates 03:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Even if the name of the parent changes the change should still go through. This church is best known by the proposed name, and the sources that are referenced which I have accessed use that name. There's no real significant difference between "Bickerton" and "Bickertonite", except that "Bickerton" is not terribly helpful as a disambiguator because the church really had nothing to do with the man William Bickerton. It is, however, part of the "Bickertonite movement". Snocrates 02:30, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
If you'd examine some of the referenced sources you may discover otherwise. Snocrates 08:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus to merge.
This is a very small and defunct group in the Latter Day Saint movement. I propose that it be merged with the Primitive Church of Jesus Christ because they, in fact, merged with them. I feel it would add depth to the pages themselves. Jcg5029 02:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)