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I changed it because
1) It's odd to have a dictionary definition in the article. I don't see that in a lot of other articles. It's also contradictory to other disctionary definitions. Webster's says "Skiffle" is music, played at Rent Partys. Should we add that definition too?
2) the link to Skiffle Music isn't even talking about music. People clicking on the link are going to have no idea where they are going.
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Merriam-Webster's :
Main Entry: skif·fle Pronunciation: 'ski-f&l Function: noun Etymology: origin unknown Date: 1926
Insofar as the OED's citation of the word skiffle, I think it means that rent parties were sometimes called skiffle parties and that while somebody played a piano or guitar, the next thing you know somebody else picked up a tambourine or a kazoo and then somebody else started calling it skiffle music because it was played at "skiffles". There were also rent parties where this never happened -- would you pick up a kazoo if Fats Waller was playing? Over the years there were a few commercial attempts at skiffle music in the US that were actually called skiffle music (see article) and that much later, in the late 50s, when some hip Brits began to do this kind of music they were also hip enough to call it skiffle music. Ortolan88
No, I would disagree. Unless you can provide a citation to support this claim regarding "Blues", I would remove the reference and simply say "...development of Jazz". I don't argue that Rent Parties may have been integral to the development of Jazz, because Jazz has urban roots, but that's not the case with Blues.
Blues developed in the Mississippi delta, if it "developed" anywhere. Hardly a geographic location where "tenants" are paying "rent". The implication in this article seems to be that Rent Parties are urban. Tenants, rent -- this alludes to cities, and, most likely, New York.
Blues, on the other hand, grew out of Dixie roots, particularly Southern gospel music and so-called "Negro-spirituals". It may have eventually been re-fashioned in certain cities (example: Chicago), but the "development" of Blues owes little, if anything, to urban rent parties, and, instead, much more to the Southern post-Confederate experience of rural African-Americans.
Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atikokan ( talk • contribs) 23:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
hi i was bron and grown up they. why the house on st.Croix the cost of living is so bad people is out of work the Government . is not asking own question on jobs and old housing always want put up your rent for every thing and if you going to do that please put the people in safe and clearer house make it look like , i going say it like how u say it like people live there
Do not gate it wrong I love my home and always love it i will be they for it when it mind me but please take of my because that i can come to when thing gate bad where i am trying to take one step at the time also let say at International night at my church St.Croix was coming Frist tree time
thank you -- 67.191.246.97 ( talk) 16:56, 22 November 2009 (UTC) A.T. MRS Bowen-- 67.191.246.97 ( talk) 16:56, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 08:02, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
I changed it because
1) It's odd to have a dictionary definition in the article. I don't see that in a lot of other articles. It's also contradictory to other disctionary definitions. Webster's says "Skiffle" is music, played at Rent Partys. Should we add that definition too?
2) the link to Skiffle Music isn't even talking about music. People clicking on the link are going to have no idea where they are going.
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Merriam-Webster's :
Main Entry: skif·fle Pronunciation: 'ski-f&l Function: noun Etymology: origin unknown Date: 1926
Insofar as the OED's citation of the word skiffle, I think it means that rent parties were sometimes called skiffle parties and that while somebody played a piano or guitar, the next thing you know somebody else picked up a tambourine or a kazoo and then somebody else started calling it skiffle music because it was played at "skiffles". There were also rent parties where this never happened -- would you pick up a kazoo if Fats Waller was playing? Over the years there were a few commercial attempts at skiffle music in the US that were actually called skiffle music (see article) and that much later, in the late 50s, when some hip Brits began to do this kind of music they were also hip enough to call it skiffle music. Ortolan88
No, I would disagree. Unless you can provide a citation to support this claim regarding "Blues", I would remove the reference and simply say "...development of Jazz". I don't argue that Rent Parties may have been integral to the development of Jazz, because Jazz has urban roots, but that's not the case with Blues.
Blues developed in the Mississippi delta, if it "developed" anywhere. Hardly a geographic location where "tenants" are paying "rent". The implication in this article seems to be that Rent Parties are urban. Tenants, rent -- this alludes to cities, and, most likely, New York.
Blues, on the other hand, grew out of Dixie roots, particularly Southern gospel music and so-called "Negro-spirituals". It may have eventually been re-fashioned in certain cities (example: Chicago), but the "development" of Blues owes little, if anything, to urban rent parties, and, instead, much more to the Southern post-Confederate experience of rural African-Americans.
Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atikokan ( talk • contribs) 23:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
hi i was bron and grown up they. why the house on st.Croix the cost of living is so bad people is out of work the Government . is not asking own question on jobs and old housing always want put up your rent for every thing and if you going to do that please put the people in safe and clearer house make it look like , i going say it like how u say it like people live there
Do not gate it wrong I love my home and always love it i will be they for it when it mind me but please take of my because that i can come to when thing gate bad where i am trying to take one step at the time also let say at International night at my church St.Croix was coming Frist tree time
thank you -- 67.191.246.97 ( talk) 16:56, 22 November 2009 (UTC) A.T. MRS Bowen-- 67.191.246.97 ( talk) 16:56, 22 November 2009 (UTC)