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I have reworded the intro in the light of Dr Fil’s latest criticisms. My explanations are as follows: 1, As far as I am aware it was not an atomic bomber base in 1980 - it was a fighter wing. 2, The fact that the MoD files are consistent with earlier MoD statements is not a matter of opinion, it is clear fact. 3, “Col Halt and others continue to disagree...”. Well of course they do, but this is weasel waffle that attempts to smokescreen the criticism of the case and adds nothing factual. And “principles” should have been “principals”.
Col Charles Halt told the BBC he saw unidentified objects at Rendlesham Forest in December 1980. He says he now has statements from radar operators at RAF Bentwaters and nearby Wattisham airfield that an unknown object was tracked at the time. Col Halt claimed it was seen by himself and base security staff. The 75-year-old, who was deputy commander at the Bentwaters base and now lives in the US state of Virginia, said some former service people had not wanted to speak until they retired but had now provided written statements to him. |
He said: "I have confirmation that (Bentwaters radar operators)... saw the object go across their 60 mile (96km) scope in two or three seconds, thousands of miles an hour, he came back across their scope again, stopped near the water tower, they watched it and observed it go into the forest where we were.
"At Wattisham, they picked up what they called a 'bogie' and lost it near Rendlesham Forest. |
I'm not the most knowledgeable guy when it comes to this incident.....but just about every time I've seen these guys recount their story....something in it changes. I was watching Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation (Season 1 Ep 5: "The Atomic Connection") today on the History Channel, and one of them (John Burroughs) started talking about his missing time and illnesses and so on since then. I've seen him interviewed before and he didn't mention any of that. On Unsolved Mysteries, in 1991, he didn't mention that.
I'm not the only one who has noticed this....a BBC article mentions this sort of thing as well: [1]
Does anyone know if they mentioned this sort of thing early on? And if not, should this be included? Rja13ww33 ( talk) 23:31, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Just read David Clarkes blog post linked to this section - he calls the hoax claim false after interviewing SAS/Base Commander, this section instead sounds like it was pushed by him. Heads up to the folks that edit this artile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:643:8800:6DC0:14C3:75C9:A030:357 ( talk) 06:32, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
It's reassuring to see how much effort goes into trying to discredit the Rendlesham incident, especially given how paper thin the supposed explanations are. I say leave this page exactly as it is as an example of how badly the UK and US governments have papered over the cracks. My personal thoughts are that a UFO cover story was concocted right at the start to explain away a major emergency on the edge of the base. Something very embarrassing to the USA. Something involving a damaged nuke weapon in the woods for example. Rather than die down the story has grown wings over the year. While an outlandish story is good cover it attracts too much attention to Rendlesham/Bentwaters. 86.166.237.215 ( talk) 19:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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I have reworded the intro in the light of Dr Fil’s latest criticisms. My explanations are as follows: 1, As far as I am aware it was not an atomic bomber base in 1980 - it was a fighter wing. 2, The fact that the MoD files are consistent with earlier MoD statements is not a matter of opinion, it is clear fact. 3, “Col Halt and others continue to disagree...”. Well of course they do, but this is weasel waffle that attempts to smokescreen the criticism of the case and adds nothing factual. And “principles” should have been “principals”.
Col Charles Halt told the BBC he saw unidentified objects at Rendlesham Forest in December 1980. He says he now has statements from radar operators at RAF Bentwaters and nearby Wattisham airfield that an unknown object was tracked at the time. Col Halt claimed it was seen by himself and base security staff. The 75-year-old, who was deputy commander at the Bentwaters base and now lives in the US state of Virginia, said some former service people had not wanted to speak until they retired but had now provided written statements to him. |
He said: "I have confirmation that (Bentwaters radar operators)... saw the object go across their 60 mile (96km) scope in two or three seconds, thousands of miles an hour, he came back across their scope again, stopped near the water tower, they watched it and observed it go into the forest where we were.
"At Wattisham, they picked up what they called a 'bogie' and lost it near Rendlesham Forest. |
I'm not the most knowledgeable guy when it comes to this incident.....but just about every time I've seen these guys recount their story....something in it changes. I was watching Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation (Season 1 Ep 5: "The Atomic Connection") today on the History Channel, and one of them (John Burroughs) started talking about his missing time and illnesses and so on since then. I've seen him interviewed before and he didn't mention any of that. On Unsolved Mysteries, in 1991, he didn't mention that.
I'm not the only one who has noticed this....a BBC article mentions this sort of thing as well: [1]
Does anyone know if they mentioned this sort of thing early on? And if not, should this be included? Rja13ww33 ( talk) 23:31, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Just read David Clarkes blog post linked to this section - he calls the hoax claim false after interviewing SAS/Base Commander, this section instead sounds like it was pushed by him. Heads up to the folks that edit this artile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:643:8800:6DC0:14C3:75C9:A030:357 ( talk) 06:32, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
It's reassuring to see how much effort goes into trying to discredit the Rendlesham incident, especially given how paper thin the supposed explanations are. I say leave this page exactly as it is as an example of how badly the UK and US governments have papered over the cracks. My personal thoughts are that a UFO cover story was concocted right at the start to explain away a major emergency on the edge of the base. Something very embarrassing to the USA. Something involving a damaged nuke weapon in the woods for example. Rather than die down the story has grown wings over the year. While an outlandish story is good cover it attracts too much attention to Rendlesham/Bentwaters. 86.166.237.215 ( talk) 19:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)