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The 8.2 seconds from 0 to 100 km/h are claimed by the factory in the 1991 Automobil Revue Katalog, a yearly "phonebook"-type magazine given every year to journalists in the Geneva Motor Show. That time is claimed for non-catalyst version, with catalyst it's 8.9 seconds. If someone has any tests from motor magazines supporting the 7.4 seconds time (for 0-100 km/h, that is 0-62 mph, not 0-60) add them as sources. If there are no sources for the 7.4 time, I will request page protection. -- Pc13 ( talk) 13:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Mais informações sobre esta maquina podem ser encontradas em r19club.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.53.162.41 ( talk) 18:54, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Everything about this car in http://r19club.com/en/
I am (still) uneasy about the statement in the article, "It was the best selling imported car in West Germany in 1990 and then in re-united Germany from 1991 to 1994." That is, I agree that your sources support the notion that it was the best selling imported car in Germany from 1990 to 1994. But I am (still) not convinced about WEST Germany and 1990. (I find a number of sources for it having been the best selling imported car in [Gesamt] Deutschland 1990. Here's one: they're mostly suspiciously similar, though .....)
I asked for another source and you added one. I like it. Mais selon Les Echos, "...avec une part de marché passée de 3,5% en 1990 à 5,4% l'an dernier, le constructeur français se trouve sur une lancée que les résultats des premières semaines de 1992 ne démentent pas, en particulier dans les Lander orientaux où les commandes Renault sont supérieures à celles du début 1991". In other words they sold a whole lot more cars in Germany in 1991 than they had in 1990, and from what it says here and elsewhere in the article a lot of the increase reflected the popularity of the Renault 19 in the "neuen Bundesländer" (ex-RDA). That's how I remember it too. But it does NOT say that "it was the best selling imported car in West Germany in 1990".
Sorry this all looks more than a tad nerdy. However .....
A good solution would be to check out copies of Auto Motor und Sport - possible from October 1990 and again from January 1991. AMuS listed German market car sales by model. (Still do.) The September 1990 ytd figures for WEST Germany and the December 1990 ytd figures should both be there, and possible to check. I should have these somewhere, but my piles of car magazines are unindexed. Mea culpa. If anyone reading this has an online subscription to AMuS, then it evidenctly includes access to many decades of issues online, but I still haven't mastered the log-in protocols. Has anyone else? And ... please?
Be well Charles01 ( talk) 15:25, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
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The 8.2 seconds from 0 to 100 km/h are claimed by the factory in the 1991 Automobil Revue Katalog, a yearly "phonebook"-type magazine given every year to journalists in the Geneva Motor Show. That time is claimed for non-catalyst version, with catalyst it's 8.9 seconds. If someone has any tests from motor magazines supporting the 7.4 seconds time (for 0-100 km/h, that is 0-62 mph, not 0-60) add them as sources. If there are no sources for the 7.4 time, I will request page protection. -- Pc13 ( talk) 13:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Mais informações sobre esta maquina podem ser encontradas em r19club.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.53.162.41 ( talk) 18:54, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Everything about this car in http://r19club.com/en/
I am (still) uneasy about the statement in the article, "It was the best selling imported car in West Germany in 1990 and then in re-united Germany from 1991 to 1994." That is, I agree that your sources support the notion that it was the best selling imported car in Germany from 1990 to 1994. But I am (still) not convinced about WEST Germany and 1990. (I find a number of sources for it having been the best selling imported car in [Gesamt] Deutschland 1990. Here's one: they're mostly suspiciously similar, though .....)
I asked for another source and you added one. I like it. Mais selon Les Echos, "...avec une part de marché passée de 3,5% en 1990 à 5,4% l'an dernier, le constructeur français se trouve sur une lancée que les résultats des premières semaines de 1992 ne démentent pas, en particulier dans les Lander orientaux où les commandes Renault sont supérieures à celles du début 1991". In other words they sold a whole lot more cars in Germany in 1991 than they had in 1990, and from what it says here and elsewhere in the article a lot of the increase reflected the popularity of the Renault 19 in the "neuen Bundesländer" (ex-RDA). That's how I remember it too. But it does NOT say that "it was the best selling imported car in West Germany in 1990".
Sorry this all looks more than a tad nerdy. However .....
A good solution would be to check out copies of Auto Motor und Sport - possible from October 1990 and again from January 1991. AMuS listed German market car sales by model. (Still do.) The September 1990 ytd figures for WEST Germany and the December 1990 ytd figures should both be there, and possible to check. I should have these somewhere, but my piles of car magazines are unindexed. Mea culpa. If anyone reading this has an online subscription to AMuS, then it evidenctly includes access to many decades of issues online, but I still haven't mastered the log-in protocols. Has anyone else? And ... please?
Be well Charles01 ( talk) 15:25, 24 June 2021 (UTC)