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somebody PLEASE add more information. I just don't have time. Maybe list the roles she's played and a short biography
Fact error: When I read http://www.evermore.com/azo/c_bios/floyd.php3 I see that Susannah was premiered before Fleming was born! "Floyd completed his opera Susannah , which first premiered at Florida State in 1955 and later at the New York City Opera in 1956." // 213.114.226.208 18:15, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
I understood the sentence to indicate the Chicago Susannah production was Fleming's debut with Lyric Opera of Chicago. "Fleming sang the role of Alaide in Bellini's La straniera in a concert performance by the Opera Orchestra of New York; made her debut at the Rossini Opera Festival in the title role of Rossini's Armida; and debuted with the Lyric Opera of Chicago in the title role of Carlisle Floyd's Susannah.[39]" The article it refers to mentions that is the case: "Fleming doesn’t live in Chicago, but her long and deep association with the city, as well as her role as creative consultant to Lyric Opera — where she first appeared in 1993 to star in Carlisle Floyd’s “Susannah” — give her standing to make that statement." https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-ent-music-chicago-voices-0808-story.html Chicago Lyric's performance library also indicates that the production was a new production and company premiere in October and November of their 1993/1994 season. https://www.lyricopera.org/shows/performance-library/1990-2000-seasons/ User:ASTJLD 04:47, 24 August 2021 (EST) ASTJLD ( talk) 20:53, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
She sings in the whistle register doesn't she? I think I heard her singing Magical Flute thing.
Is it accurate to say she is a jazz singer?
I don't think so, she dabbles in jazz ala kiri te kanawa, but i think she is an opera singer still :) Gareth E Kegg 10:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't say she's currently a jazz singer, though I would have called her one before she really went into classical music. As for whistle register -- she has touched a high G in several performances and recordings (live and recorded Lucrezia Borgia, a recorded aria from Mozart's Sogno di Scipione), has recorded a sustained high e-natural (aria from Vespri siciliani / Vepres siciliennes), and has at least attempted it in live performances (she once planned on it and aborted it at the last moment, if my sources are correct). I don't think she currently sings above a high e-flat, or perhaps just high d (performances or recordings). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.137.208.178 ( talk) 21:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I know that Wikipedia policy favours free images, even if the quality is inferior to fair use ones. However, I'm not sure where to draw the line. If we have a beautiful fair use one and a very respectable free one, of course we use the free one, but if we have a beautiful fair use one and an absolutely appalling free one, I suppose that we'd use the fair use one, assuming that there was a necessity to have a photo in the first place. Many articles can do without images if we can't get free ones.
Several weeks ago, one of my pupils attended a Renée Fleming concert in Germany, and took some photos of Renée on stage. She told me that I could upload them to Wikipedia, releasing them into the public domain. The quality is not good. I'd be interested to hear from people familiar with our image policy as to whether they think it's good enough. If this photo is really so awful as to make fair use more appropriate on this occasion, I'll meekly submit to having it deleted. The original fair use image is here; the free one taken by my pupil is here.
Comments, please? Musical L inguist 01:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
You've done exactly the right thing. The image should also be listed for deletion as replaceable fair use (subst:rfu) or orphaned fair use (subst:orfud). ed g2s • talk 13:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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The header is awful - why is her highest note listed in the first paragraph?? Grammar is equally questionable. I'll edit the worst bits out and try to make it a bit more informative. -- Wolf m corcoran ( talk) 02:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm fixing the comma splices and such. I might try to find some better ways of putting things.
All of these are great pictures. I switched out the lead photo for one of these facing left. I personally prefer an image that faces left when it is positioned right in the article. Plumadesabiduría ( talk) 00:53, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
What's the phrase "Toy Toy Toy" that she uses backstage? Is it her own phrase? Is it something worth mentioning in this article? Ishboyfay ( talk) 02:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
The phrase is ‘’toi, toi, toi‘’. It's the classical singers′ version of ‘’break a leg‘’. It is a German phrase and refers to a spitting gesture which is supposed to ward off a curse, sort of ptewy ptewy ptewy. [1]
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Since it's a general phrase used by all or most opera singers, I don't think it should be mentioned here.
Judychlebek ( talk) 21:15, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Judy C
Thanks for that clarification and spelling. Note that the phrase is described on the "Break a Leg" page. Ishboyfay ( talk) 22:10, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
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somebody PLEASE add more information. I just don't have time. Maybe list the roles she's played and a short biography
Fact error: When I read http://www.evermore.com/azo/c_bios/floyd.php3 I see that Susannah was premiered before Fleming was born! "Floyd completed his opera Susannah , which first premiered at Florida State in 1955 and later at the New York City Opera in 1956." // 213.114.226.208 18:15, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
I understood the sentence to indicate the Chicago Susannah production was Fleming's debut with Lyric Opera of Chicago. "Fleming sang the role of Alaide in Bellini's La straniera in a concert performance by the Opera Orchestra of New York; made her debut at the Rossini Opera Festival in the title role of Rossini's Armida; and debuted with the Lyric Opera of Chicago in the title role of Carlisle Floyd's Susannah.[39]" The article it refers to mentions that is the case: "Fleming doesn’t live in Chicago, but her long and deep association with the city, as well as her role as creative consultant to Lyric Opera — where she first appeared in 1993 to star in Carlisle Floyd’s “Susannah” — give her standing to make that statement." https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-ent-music-chicago-voices-0808-story.html Chicago Lyric's performance library also indicates that the production was a new production and company premiere in October and November of their 1993/1994 season. https://www.lyricopera.org/shows/performance-library/1990-2000-seasons/ User:ASTJLD 04:47, 24 August 2021 (EST) ASTJLD ( talk) 20:53, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
She sings in the whistle register doesn't she? I think I heard her singing Magical Flute thing.
Is it accurate to say she is a jazz singer?
I don't think so, she dabbles in jazz ala kiri te kanawa, but i think she is an opera singer still :) Gareth E Kegg 10:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't say she's currently a jazz singer, though I would have called her one before she really went into classical music. As for whistle register -- she has touched a high G in several performances and recordings (live and recorded Lucrezia Borgia, a recorded aria from Mozart's Sogno di Scipione), has recorded a sustained high e-natural (aria from Vespri siciliani / Vepres siciliennes), and has at least attempted it in live performances (she once planned on it and aborted it at the last moment, if my sources are correct). I don't think she currently sings above a high e-flat, or perhaps just high d (performances or recordings). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.137.208.178 ( talk) 21:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I know that Wikipedia policy favours free images, even if the quality is inferior to fair use ones. However, I'm not sure where to draw the line. If we have a beautiful fair use one and a very respectable free one, of course we use the free one, but if we have a beautiful fair use one and an absolutely appalling free one, I suppose that we'd use the fair use one, assuming that there was a necessity to have a photo in the first place. Many articles can do without images if we can't get free ones.
Several weeks ago, one of my pupils attended a Renée Fleming concert in Germany, and took some photos of Renée on stage. She told me that I could upload them to Wikipedia, releasing them into the public domain. The quality is not good. I'd be interested to hear from people familiar with our image policy as to whether they think it's good enough. If this photo is really so awful as to make fair use more appropriate on this occasion, I'll meekly submit to having it deleted. The original fair use image is here; the free one taken by my pupil is here.
Comments, please? Musical L inguist 01:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
You've done exactly the right thing. The image should also be listed for deletion as replaceable fair use (subst:rfu) or orphaned fair use (subst:orfud). ed g2s • talk 13:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
WP:Contemporary Music Member
The header is awful - why is her highest note listed in the first paragraph?? Grammar is equally questionable. I'll edit the worst bits out and try to make it a bit more informative. -- Wolf m corcoran ( talk) 02:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm fixing the comma splices and such. I might try to find some better ways of putting things.
All of these are great pictures. I switched out the lead photo for one of these facing left. I personally prefer an image that faces left when it is positioned right in the article. Plumadesabiduría ( talk) 00:53, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
What's the phrase "Toy Toy Toy" that she uses backstage? Is it her own phrase? Is it something worth mentioning in this article? Ishboyfay ( talk) 02:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
The phrase is ‘’toi, toi, toi‘’. It's the classical singers′ version of ‘’break a leg‘’. It is a German phrase and refers to a spitting gesture which is supposed to ward off a curse, sort of ptewy ptewy ptewy. [1]
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Since it's a general phrase used by all or most opera singers, I don't think it should be mentioned here.
Judychlebek ( talk) 21:15, 17 March 2010 (UTC)Judy C
Thanks for that clarification and spelling. Note that the phrase is described on the "Break a Leg" page. Ishboyfay ( talk) 22:10, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
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