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I now leave this in the care of the good folks at Category:Wikipedians in Iceland.-- T. Anthony 06:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
"but there isn't "organized secularism" comparable to the Human-Etisk Forbund of Norway." This is actually not true - Siðmennt ( http://www.sidmennt.is/) is exactly such an association and was founded in 1990. :) Margrét Dóra
While it does specify that church attendance is low and belief also likely is hard to come by, this article only lists membership in religious organizations, not actual religious beliefs. As such, it's not useful to those of us who want to determine how many Icelanders are, for example, atheists. If Iceland is like Norway, you're born into membership in the church and most people simply do not bother to void their membership, their lack of belief notwithstanding. Hence, that 82% of Icelanders are members of a certain church does not at all mean they conform to or believe that branch of Christianity. -- Safe-Keeper 00:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
In the chapter "2 Conversion to Christianity" it says: "Iceland initially converted to Christianity in a partial and diplomatic way. The compromise measure came about due to the Norse-pagan Þorgeirr Ljósvetningagoði"
However in Christianisation of Iceland (and this is how I was told it happened in school):
"He [the king of Norway] refused Icelandic travellers access to Norwegian ports and took as hostages several Icelanders then dwelling in Norway. This cut off all trade between Iceland and its main trading partner. Some of the hostages taken by King Olaf were the sons of prominent Icelandic chieftains, whom he threated to kill unless Iceland accepted Christianity." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.144.18.242 ( talk) 23:05, August 22, 2007 (UTC)
There are de facto two articles about the "Christianisation of Iceland": (1)
Christianisation of Iceland and (2)
Bishop of Reykjavik (Catholic) - Couldn't these two articles combined to one ("Christianisation of Iceland")?
Gecko78
19:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Zuism: According to the Statistics Iceland source, the total number of adherents to Zuism is 2. This smacks of propaganda and POV by members of that religion. To be fair, if left in, that statistic should also be added. I'll be happy to do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.131.132 ( talk) 04:11, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Since there seems to be some confusion, the pie chart data is from the official info on denominations that people are registered with (or not registered and their tax money goes elsewhere). Hence it is inappropriate to use Evangelical Lutheranism when the denomination is a specific church (Evangelical Lutheran Church aka Church of Iceland [the actual Icelandic names seem to be Þjóðkirkjan or "State Church" or "Hin evangeliska lúterska kirkja"). The two other Lutheran denominations that broke away from the state church in the early 20th century apparently use the same liturgy and hymnal but are theologically more conservative so almost certainly consider themselves evangelical Lutherans and rightful heirs of the earlier Evangelical Lutheran Church.-- Erp ( talk) 02:27, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Can someone have a look at the recent edit history and give some imput as to what stays. I have twice removed a promotional style listing that is purely a mnemonic about the religion's beliefs. It has been put back again so I don't want to run foul of the 3-revert rules. But I have just noticed that the new info is contrary to referenced info that was removed by the same editor. There is also a POV involved, one of the two editors mentioned that he/she is involved with the church.-- Dmol ( talk) 21:23, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Independent Baptist doctrine historically states a belief in Separation of Church and State and therefore does not encourage its attendees and members to register their faith with the government as important. Attendance in First Baptist Church is the most attended church on the peninsula week by week. Attendance is speaking towards attending for the purpose of worship outside of funerals, weddings, and other church exercises.
Document history about The Independent Baptist Church, First Baptist Church of Njarðvík Iceland. https://www.mbl.is/greinasafn/grein/143593/ This article reveals the history of the church acknowledged by the government of Iceland. Independent Baptists are not Southern Baptists. This is not conjecture, it is fact.
One may not like the beautiful history of the Independent Baptist Church, First Baptist Church, however, it is history and fact. One outside of the Independent Baptist Church holds no authority to speak on the topic of Baptist History. Please source the link here
https://www.mbl.is/greinasafn/grein/143593/ where the government states that First Baptist Church is the first Baptist church in Iceland´s history. I think that is sufficient to negate any opposition to First Baptist Church's stated history by respected entities and authorities. Patrick Weimer, Pastor of First Baptist Church ~~Patrick Weimer, Pastor of First Baptist Church~~Cite error: A <ref>
tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the
help page).www.fbkiceland.is </ref> — Preceding
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Please do not change information about the Independent Baptist Church in Iceland called Fyrsta Baptista Kirkjan / First Baptist Church. It has been a recognized Independent Baptist Church since 1967, though not registered until 1994 when we built our 13,000 square foot building in Njarðvík. Please only change information that you know to be factual about the work in Reykjavík. I know the Independent Baptists, Jeremy Gresham, John Hallman, Ben Wharton, and Andy Hansen, that started the Emmanuel Baptist Church in Reykjavík...we helped them for a short time in the work. You may not like our history, but please respect it and stop changing it. I personally have 25 years of Baptist history in Iceland. I am the 3rd pastor of the First Baptist Church of Njarðvík Iceland representing nearly 50 years of history. Please, Please stop changing this page. If you want to start a new heading called Southern Baptists in Iceland, then feel free to do so.
Thank you, Patrick Weimer/Patrekur Vilhjálmsson — Preceding unsigned comment added by SyncMaster203B ( talk • contribs) 21:25, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Independent Baptist doctrine historically states a belief in Separation of Church and State and therefore does not encourage its attendees and members to register their faith with the government as important. Attendance in First Baptist Church is the most attended church on the peninsula week by week. Attendance is speaking towards attending for the purpose of worship outside of funerals, weddings, and other church exercises.
Document history about The Independent Baptist Church, First Baptist Church of Njarðvík Iceland. https://www.mbl.is/greinasafn/grein/143593/ This article reveals the history of the church acknowledged by the government of Iceland. Independent Baptists are not Southern Baptists. This is not conjecture, it is fact.
One may not like the beautiful history of the Independent Baptist Church, First Baptist Church, however, it is history and fact. One outside of the Independent Baptist Church holds no authority to speak on the topic of Baptist History. Please source the link here https://www.mbl.is/greinasafn/grein/143593/ where the government states that First Baptist Church is the first Baptist church in Iceland´s history.
I think that is sufficient to negate any opposition to First Baptist Church's stated history by respected entities and authorities. Patrick Weimer, Pastor of First Baptist Church ~~Patrick Weimer, Pastor of First Baptist Church~~ www.fbkiceland.is </ref> — Preceding unsigned comment added by SyncMaster203B ( talk • contribs) 10:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
As far as I've been able to find out (I'm not an expert), Zuism in Iceland:
It seems commonsense to think that "Zuism" is related to Anzû/Zû, a figure in Sumerian religion, but I've found no source for this. Sources in early December 2015 spoke of 3,100 members, about 1% of the population, a significant number and much larger than many other recognised religions, most recruited in a 2-week period (and presumably likely to increase_ Pol098 ( talk) 12:30, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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https://grapevine.is/news/2021/03/19/iceland-officially-recognises-judaism-as-a-religious-organisation-within-the-country/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.152.169 ( talk) 21:51, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
The demographics section should contain text as well charts/tables. It should be text first (especially useful for people with visual disabilities for whom charts and tables may be difficult or impossible to interpret). I would have the time chart next as that is small and easy to interpret (assuming eyesight). Then the tables. I would not include section headings as the captions are sufficient for that. I've made the first table, change over time, with two header rows. The second table needs some work. Erp ( talk) 17:17, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
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I now leave this in the care of the good folks at Category:Wikipedians in Iceland.-- T. Anthony 06:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
"but there isn't "organized secularism" comparable to the Human-Etisk Forbund of Norway." This is actually not true - Siðmennt ( http://www.sidmennt.is/) is exactly such an association and was founded in 1990. :) Margrét Dóra
While it does specify that church attendance is low and belief also likely is hard to come by, this article only lists membership in religious organizations, not actual religious beliefs. As such, it's not useful to those of us who want to determine how many Icelanders are, for example, atheists. If Iceland is like Norway, you're born into membership in the church and most people simply do not bother to void their membership, their lack of belief notwithstanding. Hence, that 82% of Icelanders are members of a certain church does not at all mean they conform to or believe that branch of Christianity. -- Safe-Keeper 00:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
In the chapter "2 Conversion to Christianity" it says: "Iceland initially converted to Christianity in a partial and diplomatic way. The compromise measure came about due to the Norse-pagan Þorgeirr Ljósvetningagoði"
However in Christianisation of Iceland (and this is how I was told it happened in school):
"He [the king of Norway] refused Icelandic travellers access to Norwegian ports and took as hostages several Icelanders then dwelling in Norway. This cut off all trade between Iceland and its main trading partner. Some of the hostages taken by King Olaf were the sons of prominent Icelandic chieftains, whom he threated to kill unless Iceland accepted Christianity." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.144.18.242 ( talk) 23:05, August 22, 2007 (UTC)
There are de facto two articles about the "Christianisation of Iceland": (1)
Christianisation of Iceland and (2)
Bishop of Reykjavik (Catholic) - Couldn't these two articles combined to one ("Christianisation of Iceland")?
Gecko78
19:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Zuism: According to the Statistics Iceland source, the total number of adherents to Zuism is 2. This smacks of propaganda and POV by members of that religion. To be fair, if left in, that statistic should also be added. I'll be happy to do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.131.132 ( talk) 04:11, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Since there seems to be some confusion, the pie chart data is from the official info on denominations that people are registered with (or not registered and their tax money goes elsewhere). Hence it is inappropriate to use Evangelical Lutheranism when the denomination is a specific church (Evangelical Lutheran Church aka Church of Iceland [the actual Icelandic names seem to be Þjóðkirkjan or "State Church" or "Hin evangeliska lúterska kirkja"). The two other Lutheran denominations that broke away from the state church in the early 20th century apparently use the same liturgy and hymnal but are theologically more conservative so almost certainly consider themselves evangelical Lutherans and rightful heirs of the earlier Evangelical Lutheran Church.-- Erp ( talk) 02:27, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Can someone have a look at the recent edit history and give some imput as to what stays. I have twice removed a promotional style listing that is purely a mnemonic about the religion's beliefs. It has been put back again so I don't want to run foul of the 3-revert rules. But I have just noticed that the new info is contrary to referenced info that was removed by the same editor. There is also a POV involved, one of the two editors mentioned that he/she is involved with the church.-- Dmol ( talk) 21:23, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Independent Baptist doctrine historically states a belief in Separation of Church and State and therefore does not encourage its attendees and members to register their faith with the government as important. Attendance in First Baptist Church is the most attended church on the peninsula week by week. Attendance is speaking towards attending for the purpose of worship outside of funerals, weddings, and other church exercises.
Document history about The Independent Baptist Church, First Baptist Church of Njarðvík Iceland. https://www.mbl.is/greinasafn/grein/143593/ This article reveals the history of the church acknowledged by the government of Iceland. Independent Baptists are not Southern Baptists. This is not conjecture, it is fact.
One may not like the beautiful history of the Independent Baptist Church, First Baptist Church, however, it is history and fact. One outside of the Independent Baptist Church holds no authority to speak on the topic of Baptist History. Please source the link here
https://www.mbl.is/greinasafn/grein/143593/ where the government states that First Baptist Church is the first Baptist church in Iceland´s history. I think that is sufficient to negate any opposition to First Baptist Church's stated history by respected entities and authorities. Patrick Weimer, Pastor of First Baptist Church ~~Patrick Weimer, Pastor of First Baptist Church~~Cite error: A <ref>
tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the
help page).www.fbkiceland.is </ref> — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
SyncMaster203B (
talk •
contribs)
10:42, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
Please do not change information about the Independent Baptist Church in Iceland called Fyrsta Baptista Kirkjan / First Baptist Church. It has been a recognized Independent Baptist Church since 1967, though not registered until 1994 when we built our 13,000 square foot building in Njarðvík. Please only change information that you know to be factual about the work in Reykjavík. I know the Independent Baptists, Jeremy Gresham, John Hallman, Ben Wharton, and Andy Hansen, that started the Emmanuel Baptist Church in Reykjavík...we helped them for a short time in the work. You may not like our history, but please respect it and stop changing it. I personally have 25 years of Baptist history in Iceland. I am the 3rd pastor of the First Baptist Church of Njarðvík Iceland representing nearly 50 years of history. Please, Please stop changing this page. If you want to start a new heading called Southern Baptists in Iceland, then feel free to do so.
Thank you, Patrick Weimer/Patrekur Vilhjálmsson — Preceding unsigned comment added by SyncMaster203B ( talk • contribs) 21:25, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Independent Baptist doctrine historically states a belief in Separation of Church and State and therefore does not encourage its attendees and members to register their faith with the government as important. Attendance in First Baptist Church is the most attended church on the peninsula week by week. Attendance is speaking towards attending for the purpose of worship outside of funerals, weddings, and other church exercises.
Document history about The Independent Baptist Church, First Baptist Church of Njarðvík Iceland. https://www.mbl.is/greinasafn/grein/143593/ This article reveals the history of the church acknowledged by the government of Iceland. Independent Baptists are not Southern Baptists. This is not conjecture, it is fact.
One may not like the beautiful history of the Independent Baptist Church, First Baptist Church, however, it is history and fact. One outside of the Independent Baptist Church holds no authority to speak on the topic of Baptist History. Please source the link here https://www.mbl.is/greinasafn/grein/143593/ where the government states that First Baptist Church is the first Baptist church in Iceland´s history.
I think that is sufficient to negate any opposition to First Baptist Church's stated history by respected entities and authorities. Patrick Weimer, Pastor of First Baptist Church ~~Patrick Weimer, Pastor of First Baptist Church~~ www.fbkiceland.is </ref> — Preceding unsigned comment added by SyncMaster203B ( talk • contribs) 10:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
As far as I've been able to find out (I'm not an expert), Zuism in Iceland:
It seems commonsense to think that "Zuism" is related to Anzû/Zû, a figure in Sumerian religion, but I've found no source for this. Sources in early December 2015 spoke of 3,100 members, about 1% of the population, a significant number and much larger than many other recognised religions, most recruited in a 2-week period (and presumably likely to increase_ Pol098 ( talk) 12:30, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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https://grapevine.is/news/2021/03/19/iceland-officially-recognises-judaism-as-a-religious-organisation-within-the-country/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.152.169 ( talk) 21:51, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
The demographics section should contain text as well charts/tables. It should be text first (especially useful for people with visual disabilities for whom charts and tables may be difficult or impossible to interpret). I would have the time chart next as that is small and easy to interpret (assuming eyesight). Then the tables. I would not include section headings as the captions are sufficient for that. I've made the first table, change over time, with two header rows. The second table needs some work. Erp ( talk) 17:17, 12 March 2023 (UTC)