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There seem to be several points to suggest that Rei's "soul" has been implanted into at least 3 different bodies.
Claim: In episode 19, Rei says "If I die, I can be replaced"
Counterargument: "replaced" does not imply "reincarnated". For example, Asuka was replaced by Kaworu.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: After the battle with Armisael, Rei has no memory of what happened.
Counterargument: After the battle with Sachiel, Shinji has no memory of what happened. That doesn't mean he died.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: Rei says "I think I'm probably the third one"
Counterargument: "Think" and "probably" are not words of certainty.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
There seems to be a revert conflict going on between Folken de Fanel and 71.198.156.164. And I have to side with 71.198.156.164. That stuff simply should go into the article. -- Ashanthalas 01:29, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
There is very little proof if any on both sides of the argument. It is highly possible Rei is not a clone and also highly possible she is and is "the third" one. this is something that the viewer has to decide on his/her own and is interpreted differently person to person. There is no one and only "truth" of this, as there is no one and only "truth" of life in gerneral.The details of Rei and where she came from are left out for a reason. ( Prede 12/06/06 )
Claim: Ritsuko isn't thrilled to examine what's inside Unit 00's entry plug.
Counterargument: Ritsuko hates Rei and wants to kill her. If Rei had died, Ritsuko would be throwing confetti and popping champaign bottles.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: Gendo's nearly obsessive concern for Rei's safety would be completely irrational if she could be replaced so easily.
Counterargument: The RCB says...
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: After the battle with Armisael, Rei's arm is shown in a badly burned state. Only a few hours later, she is in perfect health without even a scar.
Counterargument: End of Evangelion shows that she can regrow severed arms in a matter of seconds.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: A person must be deprived of oxygen for at least 6 minutes before death occurs. Naoko Akagi was only choking Rei for a few seconds, barely even enough time for Rei to lose consiousness.
Counterargument: The RCB says...
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: There is no evidence to suggest that NERV has the technology to deliberately transfer souls. In fact, both of their known attempts to do so (extracting Yui, and later Shinji, from Unit 01) ended in failure.
Counterargument: The RCB says...
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: The Red Cross Book says...
Counterargument: The RCB was not written by Gainax, and there is conflicting information regarding whether Anno approved it or not. Lesser members of Gainax approved it, but some of them admitted in interviews with Newtype magazine that they hadn't even seen all of the finished episodes. Its canonicity is disputed.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: Episodes 5, 6, and 23 are titled Rei I, II, and III. Counterargument: Evangelion isn't the only TV series to use multi-part episodes designated by Roman numerals. 71.198.156.164 03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: There are songs titled Rei II and Rei III. Counterargument: The fact that there are songs titled "Rei II" and "Rei III" doesn't mean that there are two characters with those names; that would be like trying to use the song "Over my Head" to prove a plot point about Titan A.E. Unless an episode or song title is "Rei dies and is replaced by a clone", such titles don't mean a damn thing. 71.198.156.164 04:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
The Rei-I/II/III being different and separated characters is confirmed in the episode scripts, available in the Renewal release.
Folken de Fanel
23:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
In the entirety of the anime, there is NOT ONE phenomenon that can only be explained by death and soul-transfer. All alleged phenomena have purely non-speculative explanations, examples of which are listed above. Lacking such a smoking gun, lacking a direct statement from Anno on the matter, and given the reasonable evidence against the theory (like Gendo's obsession with keeping Rei alive), the matter is disputable enough for Wikipedia's NPOV policy to apply. However, if anyone is willing to provide a scan of the RCB showing where Anno signed his name, that would be enough to settle the issue.
71.198.156.164
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Rei Ayanami lives alone. As in "by herself". Gendo Ikari is not her guardian, just her commanding officer.
Perhaps it is just a room? She doesnt have to live in the same room as him. Where is her home anyway? I dont remember from that episode. 68.108.169.139 20:39, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
After Shinji came out of the Dummy Plug, both he and Rei took a stroll to a pavilion at NERV HQ. She remarks that when Shinji first touched her, she felt nothing, but as the relationship developed she felt a warm sensation (which I think may be a sexual arousal to Shinji) she then asks if she can touch him again and they hold hands. Overall Rei in the manga is much more human like, and she seems to be in love with Shinji which confuses her very much. I think that part of the confusion is a sexual feeling, something that she has most likely never felt.
Well, as shown. Is anyone able to rephrase this paragraph to something less "speculative" and more "agreeable"? I'd do it myself, but as I'm currently sick, my thought processes aren't functioning 100%. Satanael 15:56, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah... I know. Satanael 14:16, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I deleted the bits added by 72.23.125.92, which are what prompted the "original research" problem. He added similar personal interpretations to a couple other Eva articles, too, which's been remedied. -- Xanzzibar 03:36, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
IN the eposide "Tears" they show were"Rei was made" and then show "spare Reis"the Docter said that these Reis are Vessels of Adam,"they hold souls for the evengalions" if this is true, Rei carrys a soul with her, in later she merges with lilth.Ans on that epsiode"Tears" Rei destroys her slef along with her Evangalion, but later she is still alive, and then when she goes back to her apartmant(room) shetries to break Camander Ikari's glasses, then starts crying for a secound time and says" Why I'a, I crying? It's the first time i seen these,but it feels like I've sen them before.So heres my point, Did they just save Rei's soul and put it another "spare Rei"?
I edited the mention of "reigouki, another appearance of her name." The reason is that Evangelion Unit 00 is not called Reigouki, it's called Zerogouki. I called for (and got) this same correction on the Evangelion (mecha) article. 72.192.237.134 21:31, 3 June 2006 (UTC) Ismail
I think that a section describing the emotion in Rei's character would be a good idea. I cant really think of a way to describe it (I havent watched the series for a long time). -- Psi edit 03:22, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It says in the article that Rei is the opposite of Asuka in 'all these respects', which include violence, however while in her daily life she is not violent, when they transferred control of unit 01 to the AI clone of her, it destroyed the Evangellion that Shinji would not, and unnecessarily crushed the person-carrier part.
Throughout the series, Rei's stoic personality compounds intrigue about her, which later results in arousing the scorn of Asuka, who at one point refers to her as a "doll" or "puppet." Asuka is outspoken, emotionally extreme, and violent; Rei is the opposite of Asuka in all these respects. Asuka has red hair and blue eyes, while Rei has red eyes, but blue hair. The show's character designer, Yoshiyuki Sadamoto, said that Rei's blue hair, pale skin, and red eyes exist solely to make her look more "distinguished" from the rest of the cast; however, Kaworu Nagisa's similar characteristics have led some fans to speculate about the angelic nature of these traits. Rei describes blue as "agreeable" and red as the color that she "hates." She says that she dislikes eating meat, but does not call herself a vegetarian. Her reasons for her color and food preferences are a subjet of speculation,however, Ayanami's creator Hideaki Anno is a vegetarian as well.
Throughout the series, Rei's stoic personality compounds intrigue about her, which later results in arousing the scorn of Asuka, who at one point refers to her as a "doll" or "puppet." Rei is quite different from Asuka. While Asuka is extroverted while Rei is introverted, Asuka appears to have a superiority complex while Rei constantly states her life has little value, even their appearance is dramatically different (long hair / short hair; red hair, blue eyes / blue hair, red eyes).
Well, I think that what you edited out was quite relevant and usefull to the article...It's all part of the origins of Rei's chara design. Also, Rei's eating habits become relevant when we connect it to Hideaki Anno being vegetarian himself (and who created another vegetarian character: Nadia !). Folken de Fanel 23:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
In the article, it is stated that Rei's clones were probably artificially aged: "Since Rei has been stated to be 14 in 2015 (and her character model reflects this information), there are most likely several Rei clones, which have been artificially aged. Rei was later stated to have been created from the "salvaged remains" of Yui Ikari after Yui's absorption into Unit 01 in 2004."
I think another theory that should be added there is that the clones simply went through premature aging because of them being cloned from someone who was about 10 years old. You know, just like Dolly (the sheep) aged prematurely because she was cloned from a 6 yr. old sheep.
What do you think?
Sorry, perhaps I didn't explain myself well. I did not mean to say that my theory should be included as a fact, but that it could be included and mentioning that it's a possibility of why Rei was 4 yrs old in 2010 and 14 in 2014. Just like the article mentions artificial aging as a possibility. Also, it is not a fact that Rei was artificially aged. The only thing we see in the show is that there's a 4 yr old Rei in 2010 and that there's a 14 yr. old Rei in 2014. We're never told that she was artificially aged. If you ask yourself why that is so, you might come up with something like "she was probably artificially aged" or "she probably aged faster because she's a clone of an older woman". Both of those are just theories. Neither were confirmed in the series, but both are possible and make a lot of sense. It is indeed a fact that a clone can age way faster if it's cloned from an older living being. About what I said about Rei being cloned from a 10 yr old, that was my mistake. I do know she was cloned from Yui Ikari. That's still an older woman I believe.
Alright, which version of Rei's poem should the page have, the subtitle version or the version from the dub (assuming that the difference between the version that's in the last edit and the previous version that I reformatted are because there are two different versions)? Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 05:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I say go with subtitled version, with perhaps a fan translation for comparison (if there are any significant divergences). I don't think dubs are reliable for much else than Romanizations since they aren't trying to be a faithful translation but are edited for 'localization' and also to match the lipflapping using English words and not Japanese. -- Gwern (contribs) 12:57 5 July 2007 (GMT)
Clobbered together a page with both versions and inserted a link to it into the Rei's Poem section. Melody from discord 03:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Alright: The article for all the NGE characters lists a link to an essay on Hideaki Anno's homepage where he explicitly explains the connections between the character names and the Japanese naval vessels and ship parts. Unfortunately, I can't read kanji, so this link: http://www.animenation.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-142405.html is the closest thing to a reference I can find. I don't know how to tag references or I'd add it straight into the article. Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 05:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there any evidence that shows Rei doesn't have Lilith's soul? The show's creator said that anyone at the end of EOE can come back, but if Rei had Lilith's soul then she couldn't back because the gaint Lilith died in the film. Also throughout the show, Lilith's body seems to change from being shape less (no parts of a women's anatomy) to having a body with breasts. And when Rei takes the Lance of Longinus off Lilith, her legs grow back. How can Lilith's body change when Rei has her soul?-- Ganderman 15:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
We need to work out a more permanent solution to this: we can either briefly say that we have no idea who the soul in Unit 00 is, or make speculations, or make informative notes of notable hints dropped in the show. Right now, it says "The hints say that the soul is Rei", which is actually just another theory. I think we should at least point out that Ritsuko seemed awfully suspicious that Eva 00 was apparently "motivated" to attack Gendo and later herself. There's actually a longstanding theory that this is because Naoko Akagi'soul was used in it. This isn't "imposing our own theories", but pointing out hints dropped by the series. Admittedly, Shinji seeing a flash of Rei in episode 14 when he was in Unit 00 leans towards the other explanation, but that's it (plus, Rei has Lilith's soul). Why would the soul of Rei attack Gendo using Unit 00? Maybe it didn't even have a soul. So we should just say "these are some of the contrasting theories and evidence in the series that points to each, **though there is no definative answer). -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 05:30, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Just to make things clear: Ritsuko thinks she was targeted by Eva 00 in ep 14, and that's all. No possible reason for it has been implied. Guessing any of the hypothetical implications of this statement is original research. And Filling up the blanks in the characters speech (more particularly Ritsuko's in ep 5) is not our "job" here.
And thus, whithout any justification for it, I can't really see how it can be linked with the "soul of Eva 00" debate, as it is not a proof of anything. Ritsuko's inner thoughts in ep. 14 might be remotely relevant, however mentioning her speech to Misato in ep. 5 is original research, as you have reconstituted by yourself what you think might have been the blanks in her speech, without proof. You have yourself created the link you wanted, the show has not said anything. Folken de Fanel 00:17, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
This gag-pic rather neatly addresses the problem of specifically what soul was in Unit 00: http://www.evacommentary.org/images_capdoc/reichu_zero-sign.jpg -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 18:14, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
In the English dub in episode 12, Rei says she "dislikes eating meat". In some translations I've seen, she actually says she flat out "hates eating meat". A minor point, but "dislikes" isn't an absolute, while "hates" is. Dunno if anyone prefers using other translations over the official English dub. Eh, whatever. Good that way it is I guess. -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 19:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
SPOILERS WARNING PLEASE!!! --Anon.
Btw...thinking about Rei's "guardian" infobox stuff....is it weird for a 14 year old to live ALONE like that in Japan?-- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 17:13, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
So as to not start an edit war: Regarding Shinji's feelings for Rei in the manga...it's blatantly obvious that he cares for her a lot, and feels a strong connection to her, but IMO he doesn't "love" her per se, at least not in the way that she loves him. His description of how he feels about her in vol. 5 seems to hold up through vol. 9...I'm curious as to how Sadamoto's going to handle them in the aftermath of vol. 10. Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 00:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
In episode 24,when Kaworu a.k.a Tabris opened Heaven's door in Terminal Dogma another AT-field appeared.The AT-field that appeared was the same strength as Kaworu's,and broke through his AT-field and blocked out everything else(light,magnetism,and sub-atomic particles).Then,before the NERV technicians could confirm whether it was or wasn't another Angel the AT-field disappeared,and the next shot quickly closed in on Rei.-- 172.132.1.242 17:58, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have anymore citations to information that can be included for this article? There's an abundance of information with facts worded as being speculation and a lot of fancruft added as well. I'm hoping to cleanup the article and get it to Good Status or at least close enough. It's very promising. Fox816 00:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Last sentence of the lede says:
"She is the First Child (First Children in the Japanese version) and pilot of Unit 00."
Please remember that people reading the article may not know the series (such as me) or not know much about anime/SF at all. The lede should therefore be a little bit more expansive in explaining what she is (what is a "First Child" and why is it multiple in the Japanese version???). In general, a lede should be a short summary of the whole article. I'd normally do such an edit myself, but as noted, I've never even seen a single episode... Could somebody else improve it in such a way? Thanks. Ingolfson 09:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I just remembered that the two characters look very similar, however Arimi's personality is a total opposite. I doubt this is deliberate, and is most likely coincidental, with the Marmalade Boy manga (started May 92) and anime (started March 94) preceding Eva , but not by that much (manga started February 95, anime October 95). Still, is it worth mentioning? BrokenSphere Msg me 23:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
You know, I noticed the same thing
•Is this the kind of thing needed? It's a scan from a page of "Der Mond" by Sadamoto (Viz translation).
http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dermondyoshiyukisadamoto0723rb.jpg -- 193.195.185.254 15:42, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
while it is a picture of rei, it seems to look kinda different then how rei is normally drawn, is that just me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.153.170 ( talk) 05:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Removing the section on her given name'smeaning because it is both inaccurate and pure conjecture. Justification: the character was intentionally not given a Kanji spelling of her given name, just like all of the other characters in the show; and there are at least 27 different Kanji spellings of the word "rei", each with its own definitions which are distinct and different from the others (some of them are admittedly very similar, but differentiated by shades of meaning and intent not generally and immediately clear to non-Japanese speakers). dunerat ( talk) 01:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
I agree, I think there's more than 27, and either all of them should be included or none at all. Wikipedia is for facts, not opinions. Maybe just state that there are more than 27 and that there is no definitive kanji spelling? —Preceding
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There's a new NGE manga that, of course, features Rei. It's called Neon Genesis Evangelion: Gakuen Datenroku. Should we include how she is and what she does in the manga in her article? (I found the wiki article on this new series a short time ago.)-- Freespirit1981 ( talk) 18:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I've tried to open the image on its separate page and my Kaspersky Antivirus prohibited it, saying that some "trojan clicker" or something is inside the image. The image is uploaded long ago so it might be a glitch in the antivirus (but there were no such glitches before, at least on Wikipedia). -- CopperKettle 17:30, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
P.S. In the logs, it says:
13.02.2009 22:30:08 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/Rei_I.jpg Opera Internet Browser found: Trojan-Clicker.HTML.IFrame.rp
-- CopperKettle 17:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
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I would postulate that the reason Rei spends time in the LCL filled tube would be to "back up" her memories to a certain point. If there wasn't some form or fashion of this how could a new clone receive memories (albiet 'muddled') of a previous host? This is all complete speculation on my part but I thought the theroy was worth advancing. J.Rly ( talk) 01:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Can there be a section added on Rei merging with Lillith and then her fate afterwards? Its not very clear.
Its the same with humanity. The movie states that anyone can come back, but its up to you if Rei or anyone else came back.-Ganderman
I would hypothesis that her fate may lie along a different path than in the previous incarnations of the series after viewing the latest 2 installments of the Rebuild lineup. J.Rly ( talk) 01:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
but i figure wrong place help is better than no help. The link to citation 23 for the ign top 25 character doesn't work, here's the right one.
http://au.ign.com/articles/2009/10/21/top-25-anime-characters-of-all-time
I hope this helps, and if someone wants to let me know the right way to do that to save future wastes of time haha.
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The original description of her apartment was right; it is rather barren of furnishings and personal touches but is unkempt and cluttered with bandages and other trash. A rewording might not be a bad idea.
Disliking meat isn´t the same thing as being a vegetarian. There could be lots of other interpretations of that off-hand remark. I think this should be changed accordingly to a more ambiguous statement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.115.98.204 ( talk) 09:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
It should be noted that series creator Hideaki Anno is also a vegetarian, therefore to assume she is is probably a safe choice. — Preceding
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Supposedly, the page lists her as having schizophrenia but I can't seem to find any proof of Rei exhibiting what would sufficiently qualify as Schizophrenia as defined under the DSM-V. She seems more like an unusually-introverted girl instead of one who's delusional to the extent that she can't function properly.
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition, (DSM-5), to meet the criteria for diagnosis of schizophrenia, the patient must have experienced at least 2 of the following symptoms:
A. Two (or more) of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a 1-month period (or less if successfully treated):
(1) delusions
(2) hallucinations
(3) disorganized speech (e.g., frequent derailment or incoherence)
(4) grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior
(5) negative symptoms, i.e., affective flattening, alogia, or avolition
Note: At least two of the five symptoms must be present for at least one month. One of the two symptoms must be delusions, hallucinations, or disorganized speech.
B. Social/occupational dysfunction: For a significant portion of the time since the onset of the disturbance, one or more major areas of functioning such as work, interpersonal relations, or self-care are markedly below the level achieved prior to the onset (or when the onset is in childhood or adolescence, failure to achieve expected level of interpersonal, academic, or occupational achievement).
C. Duration: Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least 6 months. This 6-month period must include at least 1 month of symptoms (or less if successfully treated) that meet Criterion A (i.e., active-phase symptoms) and may include periods of prodromal or residual symptoms. During these prodromal or residual periods, the signs of the disturbance may be manifested by only negative symptoms or two or more symptoms listed in Criterion A present in an attenuated form (e.g., odd beliefs, unusual perceptual experiences).
D. Schizoaffective and mood disorder exclusion: Schizoaffective disorder and mood disorder with psychotic features have been ruled out because either (1) no major depressive, manic, or mixed episodes have occurred concurrently with the active-phase symptoms; or (2) if mood episodes have occurred during active-phase symptoms, their total duration has been brief relative to the duration of the active and residual periods.
E. Substance/general medical condition exclusion: The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition.
F. Relationship to a pervasive developmental disorder: If there is a history of autistic disorder or another pervasive developmental disorder, the additional diagnosis of schizophrenia is made only if prominent delusions or hallucinations are also present for at least a month (or less if successfully treated).
I recently noticed an edit which removed a portion of a section on Rei's appearance in the third Rebuild flick, which made sense to me since I don't remember Rei appearing in that film, but another character titled reiayanami(tentative name) did. However, it was recently undone, and with a reason I could understand:
Sorry but all "iterations" of Rei are considered the same character, the article already treats Rei 1, Rei 2 and Rei 3 from the series as the same so there's no reason to be different with Rei Q, which is in fact present in the movie and has a significant, if still reduced role.)
— FelipeFritsch
Assuming Rei Q means ayanamirei(tentative name), there is a significant difference between not accounted for: Rei 1, 2 and 3 are fan names for the same character, as in the original series Rei is simply credited as Rei Ayanami. With the third Rebuild flick, this differs as a new character titled ayanamirei(tentative name) is introduced. Both the Japanese wiki and official material does not list Rei as present in the third movie. Furthermore, the most important difference is perhaps that in the original, Rei Ayanami remains a linear, singular character as it is the same individual from start to end. This differs with the new movies as Rei from the first two movies is locked away and is off screen, whilst a similar (in fact, a clone) character makes a new appearance. Considering that these are two characters, both with distinct development arcs and personalities and indeed individualities, conflating the two would only cause confusion and misrepresent both characters.
FrittyFelix ( talk) 08:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I was reading through the "Reception" section and found it rather disorganized. Rei is first and foremost, a japanese character insofar she was made in japan for a japanese tv series and for a japanese audience. Therefore it would make sense to consider the Japanese reaction first, and going into detail about that. As it stands, it's simply a series of anecdotes from both western and eastern audiences.
I think it would make sense to restructure this a little bit, perhaps even dividing it into subsections for nations and whatnot.
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There seem to be several points to suggest that Rei's "soul" has been implanted into at least 3 different bodies.
Claim: In episode 19, Rei says "If I die, I can be replaced"
Counterargument: "replaced" does not imply "reincarnated". For example, Asuka was replaced by Kaworu.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: After the battle with Armisael, Rei has no memory of what happened.
Counterargument: After the battle with Sachiel, Shinji has no memory of what happened. That doesn't mean he died.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: Rei says "I think I'm probably the third one"
Counterargument: "Think" and "probably" are not words of certainty.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
There seems to be a revert conflict going on between Folken de Fanel and 71.198.156.164. And I have to side with 71.198.156.164. That stuff simply should go into the article. -- Ashanthalas 01:29, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
There is very little proof if any on both sides of the argument. It is highly possible Rei is not a clone and also highly possible she is and is "the third" one. this is something that the viewer has to decide on his/her own and is interpreted differently person to person. There is no one and only "truth" of this, as there is no one and only "truth" of life in gerneral.The details of Rei and where she came from are left out for a reason. ( Prede 12/06/06 )
Claim: Ritsuko isn't thrilled to examine what's inside Unit 00's entry plug.
Counterargument: Ritsuko hates Rei and wants to kill her. If Rei had died, Ritsuko would be throwing confetti and popping champaign bottles.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: Gendo's nearly obsessive concern for Rei's safety would be completely irrational if she could be replaced so easily.
Counterargument: The RCB says...
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: After the battle with Armisael, Rei's arm is shown in a badly burned state. Only a few hours later, she is in perfect health without even a scar.
Counterargument: End of Evangelion shows that she can regrow severed arms in a matter of seconds.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: A person must be deprived of oxygen for at least 6 minutes before death occurs. Naoko Akagi was only choking Rei for a few seconds, barely even enough time for Rei to lose consiousness.
Counterargument: The RCB says...
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: There is no evidence to suggest that NERV has the technology to deliberately transfer souls. In fact, both of their known attempts to do so (extracting Yui, and later Shinji, from Unit 01) ended in failure.
Counterargument: The RCB says...
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: The Red Cross Book says...
Counterargument: The RCB was not written by Gainax, and there is conflicting information regarding whether Anno approved it or not. Lesser members of Gainax approved it, but some of them admitted in interviews with Newtype magazine that they hadn't even seen all of the finished episodes. Its canonicity is disputed.
71.198.156.164
03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: Episodes 5, 6, and 23 are titled Rei I, II, and III. Counterargument: Evangelion isn't the only TV series to use multi-part episodes designated by Roman numerals. 71.198.156.164 03:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC) G-Max
Claim: There are songs titled Rei II and Rei III. Counterargument: The fact that there are songs titled "Rei II" and "Rei III" doesn't mean that there are two characters with those names; that would be like trying to use the song "Over my Head" to prove a plot point about Titan A.E. Unless an episode or song title is "Rei dies and is replaced by a clone", such titles don't mean a damn thing. 71.198.156.164 04:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
The Rei-I/II/III being different and separated characters is confirmed in the episode scripts, available in the Renewal release.
Folken de Fanel
23:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
In the entirety of the anime, there is NOT ONE phenomenon that can only be explained by death and soul-transfer. All alleged phenomena have purely non-speculative explanations, examples of which are listed above. Lacking such a smoking gun, lacking a direct statement from Anno on the matter, and given the reasonable evidence against the theory (like Gendo's obsession with keeping Rei alive), the matter is disputable enough for Wikipedia's NPOV policy to apply. However, if anyone is willing to provide a scan of the RCB showing where Anno signed his name, that would be enough to settle the issue.
71.198.156.164
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Rei Ayanami lives alone. As in "by herself". Gendo Ikari is not her guardian, just her commanding officer.
Perhaps it is just a room? She doesnt have to live in the same room as him. Where is her home anyway? I dont remember from that episode. 68.108.169.139 20:39, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
After Shinji came out of the Dummy Plug, both he and Rei took a stroll to a pavilion at NERV HQ. She remarks that when Shinji first touched her, she felt nothing, but as the relationship developed she felt a warm sensation (which I think may be a sexual arousal to Shinji) she then asks if she can touch him again and they hold hands. Overall Rei in the manga is much more human like, and she seems to be in love with Shinji which confuses her very much. I think that part of the confusion is a sexual feeling, something that she has most likely never felt.
Well, as shown. Is anyone able to rephrase this paragraph to something less "speculative" and more "agreeable"? I'd do it myself, but as I'm currently sick, my thought processes aren't functioning 100%. Satanael 15:56, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah... I know. Satanael 14:16, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I deleted the bits added by 72.23.125.92, which are what prompted the "original research" problem. He added similar personal interpretations to a couple other Eva articles, too, which's been remedied. -- Xanzzibar 03:36, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
IN the eposide "Tears" they show were"Rei was made" and then show "spare Reis"the Docter said that these Reis are Vessels of Adam,"they hold souls for the evengalions" if this is true, Rei carrys a soul with her, in later she merges with lilth.Ans on that epsiode"Tears" Rei destroys her slef along with her Evangalion, but later she is still alive, and then when she goes back to her apartmant(room) shetries to break Camander Ikari's glasses, then starts crying for a secound time and says" Why I'a, I crying? It's the first time i seen these,but it feels like I've sen them before.So heres my point, Did they just save Rei's soul and put it another "spare Rei"?
I edited the mention of "reigouki, another appearance of her name." The reason is that Evangelion Unit 00 is not called Reigouki, it's called Zerogouki. I called for (and got) this same correction on the Evangelion (mecha) article. 72.192.237.134 21:31, 3 June 2006 (UTC) Ismail
I think that a section describing the emotion in Rei's character would be a good idea. I cant really think of a way to describe it (I havent watched the series for a long time). -- Psi edit 03:22, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It says in the article that Rei is the opposite of Asuka in 'all these respects', which include violence, however while in her daily life she is not violent, when they transferred control of unit 01 to the AI clone of her, it destroyed the Evangellion that Shinji would not, and unnecessarily crushed the person-carrier part.
Throughout the series, Rei's stoic personality compounds intrigue about her, which later results in arousing the scorn of Asuka, who at one point refers to her as a "doll" or "puppet." Asuka is outspoken, emotionally extreme, and violent; Rei is the opposite of Asuka in all these respects. Asuka has red hair and blue eyes, while Rei has red eyes, but blue hair. The show's character designer, Yoshiyuki Sadamoto, said that Rei's blue hair, pale skin, and red eyes exist solely to make her look more "distinguished" from the rest of the cast; however, Kaworu Nagisa's similar characteristics have led some fans to speculate about the angelic nature of these traits. Rei describes blue as "agreeable" and red as the color that she "hates." She says that she dislikes eating meat, but does not call herself a vegetarian. Her reasons for her color and food preferences are a subjet of speculation,however, Ayanami's creator Hideaki Anno is a vegetarian as well.
Throughout the series, Rei's stoic personality compounds intrigue about her, which later results in arousing the scorn of Asuka, who at one point refers to her as a "doll" or "puppet." Rei is quite different from Asuka. While Asuka is extroverted while Rei is introverted, Asuka appears to have a superiority complex while Rei constantly states her life has little value, even their appearance is dramatically different (long hair / short hair; red hair, blue eyes / blue hair, red eyes).
Well, I think that what you edited out was quite relevant and usefull to the article...It's all part of the origins of Rei's chara design. Also, Rei's eating habits become relevant when we connect it to Hideaki Anno being vegetarian himself (and who created another vegetarian character: Nadia !). Folken de Fanel 23:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
In the article, it is stated that Rei's clones were probably artificially aged: "Since Rei has been stated to be 14 in 2015 (and her character model reflects this information), there are most likely several Rei clones, which have been artificially aged. Rei was later stated to have been created from the "salvaged remains" of Yui Ikari after Yui's absorption into Unit 01 in 2004."
I think another theory that should be added there is that the clones simply went through premature aging because of them being cloned from someone who was about 10 years old. You know, just like Dolly (the sheep) aged prematurely because she was cloned from a 6 yr. old sheep.
What do you think?
Sorry, perhaps I didn't explain myself well. I did not mean to say that my theory should be included as a fact, but that it could be included and mentioning that it's a possibility of why Rei was 4 yrs old in 2010 and 14 in 2014. Just like the article mentions artificial aging as a possibility. Also, it is not a fact that Rei was artificially aged. The only thing we see in the show is that there's a 4 yr old Rei in 2010 and that there's a 14 yr. old Rei in 2014. We're never told that she was artificially aged. If you ask yourself why that is so, you might come up with something like "she was probably artificially aged" or "she probably aged faster because she's a clone of an older woman". Both of those are just theories. Neither were confirmed in the series, but both are possible and make a lot of sense. It is indeed a fact that a clone can age way faster if it's cloned from an older living being. About what I said about Rei being cloned from a 10 yr old, that was my mistake. I do know she was cloned from Yui Ikari. That's still an older woman I believe.
Alright, which version of Rei's poem should the page have, the subtitle version or the version from the dub (assuming that the difference between the version that's in the last edit and the previous version that I reformatted are because there are two different versions)? Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 05:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I say go with subtitled version, with perhaps a fan translation for comparison (if there are any significant divergences). I don't think dubs are reliable for much else than Romanizations since they aren't trying to be a faithful translation but are edited for 'localization' and also to match the lipflapping using English words and not Japanese. -- Gwern (contribs) 12:57 5 July 2007 (GMT)
Clobbered together a page with both versions and inserted a link to it into the Rei's Poem section. Melody from discord 03:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Alright: The article for all the NGE characters lists a link to an essay on Hideaki Anno's homepage where he explicitly explains the connections between the character names and the Japanese naval vessels and ship parts. Unfortunately, I can't read kanji, so this link: http://www.animenation.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-142405.html is the closest thing to a reference I can find. I don't know how to tag references or I'd add it straight into the article. Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 05:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there any evidence that shows Rei doesn't have Lilith's soul? The show's creator said that anyone at the end of EOE can come back, but if Rei had Lilith's soul then she couldn't back because the gaint Lilith died in the film. Also throughout the show, Lilith's body seems to change from being shape less (no parts of a women's anatomy) to having a body with breasts. And when Rei takes the Lance of Longinus off Lilith, her legs grow back. How can Lilith's body change when Rei has her soul?-- Ganderman 15:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
We need to work out a more permanent solution to this: we can either briefly say that we have no idea who the soul in Unit 00 is, or make speculations, or make informative notes of notable hints dropped in the show. Right now, it says "The hints say that the soul is Rei", which is actually just another theory. I think we should at least point out that Ritsuko seemed awfully suspicious that Eva 00 was apparently "motivated" to attack Gendo and later herself. There's actually a longstanding theory that this is because Naoko Akagi'soul was used in it. This isn't "imposing our own theories", but pointing out hints dropped by the series. Admittedly, Shinji seeing a flash of Rei in episode 14 when he was in Unit 00 leans towards the other explanation, but that's it (plus, Rei has Lilith's soul). Why would the soul of Rei attack Gendo using Unit 00? Maybe it didn't even have a soul. So we should just say "these are some of the contrasting theories and evidence in the series that points to each, **though there is no definative answer). -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 05:30, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Just to make things clear: Ritsuko thinks she was targeted by Eva 00 in ep 14, and that's all. No possible reason for it has been implied. Guessing any of the hypothetical implications of this statement is original research. And Filling up the blanks in the characters speech (more particularly Ritsuko's in ep 5) is not our "job" here.
And thus, whithout any justification for it, I can't really see how it can be linked with the "soul of Eva 00" debate, as it is not a proof of anything. Ritsuko's inner thoughts in ep. 14 might be remotely relevant, however mentioning her speech to Misato in ep. 5 is original research, as you have reconstituted by yourself what you think might have been the blanks in her speech, without proof. You have yourself created the link you wanted, the show has not said anything. Folken de Fanel 00:17, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
This gag-pic rather neatly addresses the problem of specifically what soul was in Unit 00: http://www.evacommentary.org/images_capdoc/reichu_zero-sign.jpg -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 18:14, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
In the English dub in episode 12, Rei says she "dislikes eating meat". In some translations I've seen, she actually says she flat out "hates eating meat". A minor point, but "dislikes" isn't an absolute, while "hates" is. Dunno if anyone prefers using other translations over the official English dub. Eh, whatever. Good that way it is I guess. -- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 19:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
SPOILERS WARNING PLEASE!!! --Anon.
Btw...thinking about Rei's "guardian" infobox stuff....is it weird for a 14 year old to live ALONE like that in Japan?-- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 17:13, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
So as to not start an edit war: Regarding Shinji's feelings for Rei in the manga...it's blatantly obvious that he cares for her a lot, and feels a strong connection to her, but IMO he doesn't "love" her per se, at least not in the way that she loves him. His description of how he feels about her in vol. 5 seems to hold up through vol. 9...I'm curious as to how Sadamoto's going to handle them in the aftermath of vol. 10. Willbyr ( talk | contribs) 00:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
In episode 24,when Kaworu a.k.a Tabris opened Heaven's door in Terminal Dogma another AT-field appeared.The AT-field that appeared was the same strength as Kaworu's,and broke through his AT-field and blocked out everything else(light,magnetism,and sub-atomic particles).Then,before the NERV technicians could confirm whether it was or wasn't another Angel the AT-field disappeared,and the next shot quickly closed in on Rei.-- 172.132.1.242 17:58, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have anymore citations to information that can be included for this article? There's an abundance of information with facts worded as being speculation and a lot of fancruft added as well. I'm hoping to cleanup the article and get it to Good Status or at least close enough. It's very promising. Fox816 00:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Last sentence of the lede says:
"She is the First Child (First Children in the Japanese version) and pilot of Unit 00."
Please remember that people reading the article may not know the series (such as me) or not know much about anime/SF at all. The lede should therefore be a little bit more expansive in explaining what she is (what is a "First Child" and why is it multiple in the Japanese version???). In general, a lede should be a short summary of the whole article. I'd normally do such an edit myself, but as noted, I've never even seen a single episode... Could somebody else improve it in such a way? Thanks. Ingolfson 09:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I just remembered that the two characters look very similar, however Arimi's personality is a total opposite. I doubt this is deliberate, and is most likely coincidental, with the Marmalade Boy manga (started May 92) and anime (started March 94) preceding Eva , but not by that much (manga started February 95, anime October 95). Still, is it worth mentioning? BrokenSphere Msg me 23:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
You know, I noticed the same thing
•Is this the kind of thing needed? It's a scan from a page of "Der Mond" by Sadamoto (Viz translation).
http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dermondyoshiyukisadamoto0723rb.jpg -- 193.195.185.254 15:42, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
while it is a picture of rei, it seems to look kinda different then how rei is normally drawn, is that just me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.153.170 ( talk) 05:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Removing the section on her given name'smeaning because it is both inaccurate and pure conjecture. Justification: the character was intentionally not given a Kanji spelling of her given name, just like all of the other characters in the show; and there are at least 27 different Kanji spellings of the word "rei", each with its own definitions which are distinct and different from the others (some of them are admittedly very similar, but differentiated by shades of meaning and intent not generally and immediately clear to non-Japanese speakers). dunerat ( talk) 01:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
I agree, I think there's more than 27, and either all of them should be included or none at all. Wikipedia is for facts, not opinions. Maybe just state that there are more than 27 and that there is no definitive kanji spelling? —Preceding
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There's a new NGE manga that, of course, features Rei. It's called Neon Genesis Evangelion: Gakuen Datenroku. Should we include how she is and what she does in the manga in her article? (I found the wiki article on this new series a short time ago.)-- Freespirit1981 ( talk) 18:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I've tried to open the image on its separate page and my Kaspersky Antivirus prohibited it, saying that some "trojan clicker" or something is inside the image. The image is uploaded long ago so it might be a glitch in the antivirus (but there were no such glitches before, at least on Wikipedia). -- CopperKettle 17:30, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
P.S. In the logs, it says:
13.02.2009 22:30:08 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/Rei_I.jpg Opera Internet Browser found: Trojan-Clicker.HTML.IFrame.rp
-- CopperKettle 17:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
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I would postulate that the reason Rei spends time in the LCL filled tube would be to "back up" her memories to a certain point. If there wasn't some form or fashion of this how could a new clone receive memories (albiet 'muddled') of a previous host? This is all complete speculation on my part but I thought the theroy was worth advancing. J.Rly ( talk) 01:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Can there be a section added on Rei merging with Lillith and then her fate afterwards? Its not very clear.
Its the same with humanity. The movie states that anyone can come back, but its up to you if Rei or anyone else came back.-Ganderman
I would hypothesis that her fate may lie along a different path than in the previous incarnations of the series after viewing the latest 2 installments of the Rebuild lineup. J.Rly ( talk) 01:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
but i figure wrong place help is better than no help. The link to citation 23 for the ign top 25 character doesn't work, here's the right one.
http://au.ign.com/articles/2009/10/21/top-25-anime-characters-of-all-time
I hope this helps, and if someone wants to let me know the right way to do that to save future wastes of time haha.
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The original description of her apartment was right; it is rather barren of furnishings and personal touches but is unkempt and cluttered with bandages and other trash. A rewording might not be a bad idea.
Disliking meat isn´t the same thing as being a vegetarian. There could be lots of other interpretations of that off-hand remark. I think this should be changed accordingly to a more ambiguous statement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.115.98.204 ( talk) 09:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
It should be noted that series creator Hideaki Anno is also a vegetarian, therefore to assume she is is probably a safe choice. — Preceding
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Supposedly, the page lists her as having schizophrenia but I can't seem to find any proof of Rei exhibiting what would sufficiently qualify as Schizophrenia as defined under the DSM-V. She seems more like an unusually-introverted girl instead of one who's delusional to the extent that she can't function properly.
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition, (DSM-5), to meet the criteria for diagnosis of schizophrenia, the patient must have experienced at least 2 of the following symptoms:
A. Two (or more) of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a 1-month period (or less if successfully treated):
(1) delusions
(2) hallucinations
(3) disorganized speech (e.g., frequent derailment or incoherence)
(4) grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior
(5) negative symptoms, i.e., affective flattening, alogia, or avolition
Note: At least two of the five symptoms must be present for at least one month. One of the two symptoms must be delusions, hallucinations, or disorganized speech.
B. Social/occupational dysfunction: For a significant portion of the time since the onset of the disturbance, one or more major areas of functioning such as work, interpersonal relations, or self-care are markedly below the level achieved prior to the onset (or when the onset is in childhood or adolescence, failure to achieve expected level of interpersonal, academic, or occupational achievement).
C. Duration: Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least 6 months. This 6-month period must include at least 1 month of symptoms (or less if successfully treated) that meet Criterion A (i.e., active-phase symptoms) and may include periods of prodromal or residual symptoms. During these prodromal or residual periods, the signs of the disturbance may be manifested by only negative symptoms or two or more symptoms listed in Criterion A present in an attenuated form (e.g., odd beliefs, unusual perceptual experiences).
D. Schizoaffective and mood disorder exclusion: Schizoaffective disorder and mood disorder with psychotic features have been ruled out because either (1) no major depressive, manic, or mixed episodes have occurred concurrently with the active-phase symptoms; or (2) if mood episodes have occurred during active-phase symptoms, their total duration has been brief relative to the duration of the active and residual periods.
E. Substance/general medical condition exclusion: The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition.
F. Relationship to a pervasive developmental disorder: If there is a history of autistic disorder or another pervasive developmental disorder, the additional diagnosis of schizophrenia is made only if prominent delusions or hallucinations are also present for at least a month (or less if successfully treated).
I recently noticed an edit which removed a portion of a section on Rei's appearance in the third Rebuild flick, which made sense to me since I don't remember Rei appearing in that film, but another character titled reiayanami(tentative name) did. However, it was recently undone, and with a reason I could understand:
Sorry but all "iterations" of Rei are considered the same character, the article already treats Rei 1, Rei 2 and Rei 3 from the series as the same so there's no reason to be different with Rei Q, which is in fact present in the movie and has a significant, if still reduced role.)
— FelipeFritsch
Assuming Rei Q means ayanamirei(tentative name), there is a significant difference between not accounted for: Rei 1, 2 and 3 are fan names for the same character, as in the original series Rei is simply credited as Rei Ayanami. With the third Rebuild flick, this differs as a new character titled ayanamirei(tentative name) is introduced. Both the Japanese wiki and official material does not list Rei as present in the third movie. Furthermore, the most important difference is perhaps that in the original, Rei Ayanami remains a linear, singular character as it is the same individual from start to end. This differs with the new movies as Rei from the first two movies is locked away and is off screen, whilst a similar (in fact, a clone) character makes a new appearance. Considering that these are two characters, both with distinct development arcs and personalities and indeed individualities, conflating the two would only cause confusion and misrepresent both characters.
FrittyFelix ( talk) 08:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I was reading through the "Reception" section and found it rather disorganized. Rei is first and foremost, a japanese character insofar she was made in japan for a japanese tv series and for a japanese audience. Therefore it would make sense to consider the Japanese reaction first, and going into detail about that. As it stands, it's simply a series of anecdotes from both western and eastern audiences.
I think it would make sense to restructure this a little bit, perhaps even dividing it into subsections for nations and whatnot.