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Why can we not have a local issues section on the main page ?-- 206.163.235.114 22:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
This page is redundant and should be moved to the main page and included under local issues. It make more sense to have it in that category, as a neighbourhoods section would be limited, mostly stats, and there is not much difference between Uni Park and Rochdale.I ask that you stop removing these remarks. I understand that they don't jive with your "glass is 1/2 full" attitidue but try to have an open mind.-- Mayor Quimby 15:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
There isn't much difference between University park and Rochdale? The two areas are at completely different ends of the city! You should try and keep an open mind as well. It's pretty obvious that you have a glass half empty attitude. -- Reginaguy 06:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I came across this page [1], which discusses demographical information for each neighbourhood. Statistical information is fine, but hopefully there are other sources that provide more substance (perhaps unique characteristics of a neighbourhood, history, amenities, etc). Does anyone know of any? Perhaps neighbourhood association websites? -- Kmsiever 19:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I told you guys that this section is redundant and should be converted to a local issues section on the main page but your self serving attitudes prevented you from seeing this fact. There is no reason to have a neighbourhoods section. I hope in the future you show the intelligence to follow my suggestions. I also resent be called a troll or being limped in with an anon ip address, unless you have proof of the fact then please refrain from either form of name calling.-- Mayor Quimby 23:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
What is Uni Park and what is Rochdale? Are those neighbourhoods in Regina? I think not. I second (or third?) the notion that the new article on Regina Neighbourhoods be expanded to include information other neighbourhoods. There are neighbourhoods worthy of a few words. Then that article should be summarised in a short paragraph which should appear as a section in the Regina, Saskatchewan article (as per Friesguy on the other talk page). This way the NC section is not 'buried away from site'. Posted the same message on the other article. -- Mumun 無文 15:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
If you had first hand knowledge of Regina you would know that those are areas of town. I feel your lack of knowledge should disqualify you from editting this article. That and your continued wiki-terrorism.-- Mayor Quimby 15:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
"The murder rate increased by 33% in this 153-block area containing approximately 10,500 people between November 2005 and November 2006. Other violent crimes have also increased: third degree assault (20%), robberies (35%), kidnapping (25%), arson (50%)." How many times must I say, this is FALSE! It's misleading and untrue!! Are you people not listening? Or are you purposely trying to vandalise the page? Those stats are for the entire city of Regina, not just for that "153-block area". -- Reginaguy 05:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Also, you people claim that only posting negative stats, and using percent increases when the murder rate only went up by two %^$%#^ing people is to offset optimistic bias, but you vandals are doing the exact same thing! You're creating an pessimistic bias! This is rediculous, the article isn't your personal soap box, stick to unbiased facts -- Reginaguy 06:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
One last thing, that part about the murder rate increasing due to the police caring less about 'crimes against the person' is a total joke.. How can you prove a statement like that? Who would actually believe that police care more about a stolen car than a murder victim? Get real.. And even if that was the case, how can you prove that is the reason for the increase? Mayor Quimby, I assume you're the same person that trolls the Regina section at skyscraperpage.com, please stick to unbiased information -- Reginaguy 06:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
-- Mayor Quimby 15:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a little thing called common knowledge. Even though you seem to lack any. Leave it alone your wiki-terrorism is getting old and is not open minded. Like I said deal with your other anal retentive articles, wacko !-- Mayor Quimby 15:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
It seems to me the mayor Quimby seems to want to be remembered as a troll, I think we should just let him be as he is with his angry and rude attitude and let him fade into the sunset. Friesguy 16:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
There, so think before you post from now on. We already proved you wrong countless times on skyscraperpage.com, so you decided you'd come here to try and convince a fresh group of people? Why do you have to be so grumpy? Maybe you should stick to editing articles you know something about, perhaps you can contribute to the pessimist article. -- Reginaguy 17:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi 206.163.235.114 / Mayor Quimby !! No original research is allowed on Wikipedia. -- Mumun 無文 17:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Mayor Quimby (or anonIP person) is also trying to stop any changes on the Pat Fiacco article. An attempt to block anyone from editing was attempted by mayor quimby but rejected by a wiki admin. It seems the only opinion that matters is his with no changes allowed. Also as he criticizes kmseiver for being from Lethbridge while it interesting that one of his anon ips is listed as being from Saskatoon "so its do as I say not as I do?"
Friesguy
17:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Reginaguy- I edited the part so that it was clear that the crime rate increased in the city as a whole and that a high percentage took place in NC. As for the name calling and accusations of being some else or a troll or a sock puppet, it would be appreciated if the name calling was halted, it is childish. As per admin request please discuss any revert or edits prior to altering the article.-- Mayor Quimby 23:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I did a small amount of editing and removed the statement that fiacco met with first nations leaders only twice in the 6 years of service, there is no proof of statement. Friesguy 19:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I have sourced some disputed points from history and reverted some of the stats. I believe they are important to the article. If you wish to change any parts. Please discuss, I am willing to alter portions but whole sale reverts are not necessary.Thank you-- 206.163.235.114 02:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I have used primary sources, all the information is relevant to the article. What is your problem ?-- 206.163.235.114 06:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, it wasn't missing till Mr or Ms 24.71.100.216 deleted it on the basis that it was "vague or missing." Improvements are always appropriate; it is difficult to see how simply deleting this introduction makes it less "vague or missing." One wonders what the issue is. Are we getting into the old heave-ho about wanting a sociological excursion into the causes of the social problems in the North-Central precinct? If there are published sources for such discussion, then by all means, why not. And Mr or Ms 24.71.100.216 should certainly feel free to go ahead and add such material. Otherwise surely no, and in the meantime, peremptorily deleting an innocuous introduction is surely vandalism. Masalai 06:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
The crime stats in the north central portion of this article all directly from the Regina Police Service and are relevant to this article, as the #1 issue or charteristic of the neighbourhood is the poverty and crime. One revert stated the stats were incorrect, what basis do you have for your ascertaination and can you link to it ? Otherwise, please leave the stats, as they are from a reliable source.-- 207.81.56.49 23:55, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Then may I suggest instead of deleting them, you might want to clarify the stats or find ones you deem more appropriate. This may be more constructive then deletion and possibly causing a revert war. I await your reverting the stats in North Central until such time that you can prove your claim or find alternate stats.-- 207.81.56.49 02:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Here, as promised, is the part with the stats:
Please do not reinsert. These stats are for the entire city and I don't know why you are reinserting them into such an inappropriate place. Please explain the rationale behind your insistence, Anon. IP editor. I don't dispute the stats except for the fact that they are in the wrong place. Also, this is an encyclopaedia and you cannot fool the reader into believing that such large increases are statistically meaningful, especially when the numbers are so low in the first place. Newspapers are interested in sensationalism not Wikipedia. Mumun 無文 17:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually could you stop deleting them, as I have stated above. However, feel free to add a clarification statement on the actual rise in numbers vs percentage. I have reinserted it and would hope that you would respectful enough to work around it, as opposed to deletion. The information is pertient to NC as it is where nearly 80% of the murders take place. You seem to have a strong POV on this article and the neighbourhood but could you please voice via additional text vs. deletion. I hope you can respect this request.-- 207.81.56.49 19:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Then please feel free to state that in the article. Wholesale deletion is akin to vandalism. As I have requested several times. Feel free to add your own text but PLEASE do not delete the stats. I hope that you can respect this request as well.-- 207.81.56.49 19:37, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
IF youre going to use small percentage stats perhaps we should use the latest stats on the Regina City police website ( http://www.reginapolice.ca/crime_stats/2007/feb.pdf) and show the huge decreases in crimes against the person and most other crimes in the city. Friesguy 17:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
How about we use the December 2006, year end found at ( http://www.reginapolice.ca/crime_stats/2006/dec_2006.pdf) and combine them with these year end stats from North central ( http://www.reginapolice.ca/neighbourhood_stats2006/north_central.htm) for a accurate perspective. I hope this is enough of a step towards your views to allow the edits to take place. I understand that some feel that it gives Regina a bad name but wiki isn't for promotion, it is for facts and these are facts. On another note, I am not a sock of anyone and the attempts to link me are bordering on conspiracy theory.-- 207.81.56.49 03:45, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
I have offered to a compromise over the disputed statistics for North Central. I have found a link to neighbourhood stats for NC for the year ending December 2006. I would like to place these in the article along side the stats for the entire city to show the amount of crime in NC compared with the city as a whole. Since the neighbourhood stats do not contain homicides, I will omit this disputed stat until such time that I can find a primary source for them, if at all. The links to the stats are above. It is my hope that this will be sufficient enough to allow me to edit the article without creating an edit war or unsubstantiated claims as to my identity. I feel that this is a fair compromise and hope to get some feedback on this proposal.-- 207.81.56.49 07:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Why do you stone wall every possible compromise ? Citywide stats and neighbourhood stats together give the full perspective of the situation. Speaking of Local Issue, I noticed on Talk: Regina, Saskatchewan (I believe) that you already shot down that idea from a banned user. I have attempted to compromise and will now , again , request mediation. It seems you three are out to conceal the FACTS.-- 207.81.56.49 16:04, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Mediation request submitted.-- 207.81.56.49 18:33, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Going ahead with previous compromise, please make an objections within 24 hours.-- 207.6.12.137 17:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Seeing no serious objections, although noting Kmsiever remarks. These remarks although noted contained no factual evidence as opposed to a body of statistics compiled by the local police authority, RPS. These stats are not only factual but are also broken into distinct neighbourhoods. It is this distinction that was the over-ruling evidence that this outline for a compromise met an necessary criteria as outlined in Wikipedia. Thank you everyone for you participation and 207.81.56.49 should feel free to go ahead with the proposed edits.-- 207.6.12.137 05:29, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Kmsiever, thank you for your concern but you have not provided any verifiable objections or any of any substance. None of the objections recorded on this talk page are objective and are therefore void. If anyone has a objection that is not a POV then please post it. Otherwise, 207.81.56.49 can edit at their leisure.-- 207.6.12.137 15:48, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Kmsiever, Again thank you for your concern but the notice was posted on this discussion page, my interactions have also been on here, as has polling. The research involved verifying the legitimacy of the statistics, disputed. I found the source to be a respectable organization with a vested interest in collecting the data and ensuring it is correct. I believe that I have completed more leg work in attempting to resolve this dispute and keeping the article as informative as possible. I would like to request that any and all objections meet the same stringent criteria has proposed by this edit and {[User:207.81.56.49|207.81.56.49]] , which appears to be more then fair given the subjective nature of the current objections. Thank you , again.-- 207.6.12.137 18:41, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
What consensus are you talking about? Is it still a consensus when 2 users have a POV? What are the objections since its relevance is a given? Please stop reverts, As I have done discuss further changes in here. Please provide eveidence to back up your claim. Thank you, again.-- 207.6.12.137 03:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I am thinking that if you asked anyone under the age of 40 where Germantown was in Regina, they wouldnt have any idea. Most of that area is now known as Eastview, Downtown transitional, General Hospital,and Chinatown. I dont know if there is a blanket name for the area, I suspect not, but I will do some digging and find out. Friesguy 21:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC) Friesguy 21:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to intrude but this area is now collectively referred to as the CORE area, all capitals. However, this area does not include Eastview but Germantown never did in the beginning. Many people know the history of this neighbourhood as many old German widows and couples reside in the area, even today, and many small booklets and pamphlets are available through the library on neighbourhood histories. Hope this helped.-- 207.6.12.137 05:32, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Could Masalai, Kmsiever and Mumun 無文 please stop your accusations and misinformation or produce a viable alternative or a reasonable answer as to why you have stated that the statistics are wrong? Also, could you please stop the reverting, I have reported it. I am somewhat confused at the hostility given to myself and others in the past. The three of you have shown your ability to judge and to sentence others for disagreeing with yourselves. I would be pleased to see the reasonable and intelligent side of you three. I look forward to some fruitful discussions on this subject. Thanks. --— Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.6.12.137 ( talk)
If that stats are true then your just being subjective or malicious.-- 207.6.12.137 15:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I want to enquire about the following interesting passages from the Crescents section:
This paragraph sure sounds like speculation and/or original research.
It is possibly significant from a sociological point of view that the only large church congregation within the Crescents is St Mary the Virgin Anglican, though the nowadays perhaps few churchgoing residents of wider West End are of course also amply served by the nearby Holy Rosary Cathedral (Roman Catholic) and Westminster United Church. That being said, and notwithstanding the mildly depressing assessments of the City of Regina zoning personnel, there are certainly affluent pockets throughout the "Cathedral Area" to the north and west of the Crescents.
Do we have any sources to back up any of these statements? -- Kmsiever 13:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Could the List of neighbourhoods/subdivisions be arranged so that it comprises two columns instead of one? I think the list is relevant. However, this is my bias but looooong lists like this with only one column do not do anything for the appearance of Wikipedia articles. Might this be rearranged into two columns? Mumun 無文 11:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
It may help you out to leave an introductory article about Regina neighborhoods and their evolution, and make individual articles about notable City of Regina neighborhoods according to Statistics Canada and the City of Regina Planning Department rather than these six major Regina cultural and or historical areas to help to maintain NPOV. If the City of Regina neighborhood articles follow the WP Cities article formatting with a layout similar to this outline... Saskatchewan Communities this perhaps may also help to maintain NPOV. Try perhaps looking at Neighborhoods in Boston, Massachusetts (from a feature article city), Meadowgreen, Stari Grad, Belgrade, or Briarwood or History of Saskatoon SriMesh | talk 01:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, here is what I propose to do with this section. It reads as follows:
Remove the section altogether — the list is inaccurate, full of spelling mistakes and in any case unimportant — and put a grammatically corrected version of the opening sentence, with an appropriate citation, in the opening paragraph of the article. It is hardly a violation of the neutral point of view policy of Wikipedia to discuss only those few neighbourhoods which are arguably "notable" in any sense (it is quite right in my view that only North Central is really so). If SriMesh would like to take another look at the list she has provided by way of fixing up its accuracy it could perhaps go back in, but I frankly don't see that it is a useful addition to the article. We don't want the article to become the (with great respect) mess that the Saskatoon article currently is, larded as it is with such lists which don't necessarily contain significant information. Any objections to this course? Masalai 05:41, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
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Why can we not have a local issues section on the main page ?-- 206.163.235.114 22:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
This page is redundant and should be moved to the main page and included under local issues. It make more sense to have it in that category, as a neighbourhoods section would be limited, mostly stats, and there is not much difference between Uni Park and Rochdale.I ask that you stop removing these remarks. I understand that they don't jive with your "glass is 1/2 full" attitidue but try to have an open mind.-- Mayor Quimby 15:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
There isn't much difference between University park and Rochdale? The two areas are at completely different ends of the city! You should try and keep an open mind as well. It's pretty obvious that you have a glass half empty attitude. -- Reginaguy 06:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I came across this page [1], which discusses demographical information for each neighbourhood. Statistical information is fine, but hopefully there are other sources that provide more substance (perhaps unique characteristics of a neighbourhood, history, amenities, etc). Does anyone know of any? Perhaps neighbourhood association websites? -- Kmsiever 19:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I told you guys that this section is redundant and should be converted to a local issues section on the main page but your self serving attitudes prevented you from seeing this fact. There is no reason to have a neighbourhoods section. I hope in the future you show the intelligence to follow my suggestions. I also resent be called a troll or being limped in with an anon ip address, unless you have proof of the fact then please refrain from either form of name calling.-- Mayor Quimby 23:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
What is Uni Park and what is Rochdale? Are those neighbourhoods in Regina? I think not. I second (or third?) the notion that the new article on Regina Neighbourhoods be expanded to include information other neighbourhoods. There are neighbourhoods worthy of a few words. Then that article should be summarised in a short paragraph which should appear as a section in the Regina, Saskatchewan article (as per Friesguy on the other talk page). This way the NC section is not 'buried away from site'. Posted the same message on the other article. -- Mumun 無文 15:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
If you had first hand knowledge of Regina you would know that those are areas of town. I feel your lack of knowledge should disqualify you from editting this article. That and your continued wiki-terrorism.-- Mayor Quimby 15:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
"The murder rate increased by 33% in this 153-block area containing approximately 10,500 people between November 2005 and November 2006. Other violent crimes have also increased: third degree assault (20%), robberies (35%), kidnapping (25%), arson (50%)." How many times must I say, this is FALSE! It's misleading and untrue!! Are you people not listening? Or are you purposely trying to vandalise the page? Those stats are for the entire city of Regina, not just for that "153-block area". -- Reginaguy 05:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Also, you people claim that only posting negative stats, and using percent increases when the murder rate only went up by two %^$%#^ing people is to offset optimistic bias, but you vandals are doing the exact same thing! You're creating an pessimistic bias! This is rediculous, the article isn't your personal soap box, stick to unbiased facts -- Reginaguy 06:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
One last thing, that part about the murder rate increasing due to the police caring less about 'crimes against the person' is a total joke.. How can you prove a statement like that? Who would actually believe that police care more about a stolen car than a murder victim? Get real.. And even if that was the case, how can you prove that is the reason for the increase? Mayor Quimby, I assume you're the same person that trolls the Regina section at skyscraperpage.com, please stick to unbiased information -- Reginaguy 06:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
-- Mayor Quimby 15:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a little thing called common knowledge. Even though you seem to lack any. Leave it alone your wiki-terrorism is getting old and is not open minded. Like I said deal with your other anal retentive articles, wacko !-- Mayor Quimby 15:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
It seems to me the mayor Quimby seems to want to be remembered as a troll, I think we should just let him be as he is with his angry and rude attitude and let him fade into the sunset. Friesguy 16:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
There, so think before you post from now on. We already proved you wrong countless times on skyscraperpage.com, so you decided you'd come here to try and convince a fresh group of people? Why do you have to be so grumpy? Maybe you should stick to editing articles you know something about, perhaps you can contribute to the pessimist article. -- Reginaguy 17:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi 206.163.235.114 / Mayor Quimby !! No original research is allowed on Wikipedia. -- Mumun 無文 17:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Mayor Quimby (or anonIP person) is also trying to stop any changes on the Pat Fiacco article. An attempt to block anyone from editing was attempted by mayor quimby but rejected by a wiki admin. It seems the only opinion that matters is his with no changes allowed. Also as he criticizes kmseiver for being from Lethbridge while it interesting that one of his anon ips is listed as being from Saskatoon "so its do as I say not as I do?"
Friesguy
17:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Reginaguy- I edited the part so that it was clear that the crime rate increased in the city as a whole and that a high percentage took place in NC. As for the name calling and accusations of being some else or a troll or a sock puppet, it would be appreciated if the name calling was halted, it is childish. As per admin request please discuss any revert or edits prior to altering the article.-- Mayor Quimby 23:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I did a small amount of editing and removed the statement that fiacco met with first nations leaders only twice in the 6 years of service, there is no proof of statement. Friesguy 19:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I have sourced some disputed points from history and reverted some of the stats. I believe they are important to the article. If you wish to change any parts. Please discuss, I am willing to alter portions but whole sale reverts are not necessary.Thank you-- 206.163.235.114 02:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I have used primary sources, all the information is relevant to the article. What is your problem ?-- 206.163.235.114 06:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, it wasn't missing till Mr or Ms 24.71.100.216 deleted it on the basis that it was "vague or missing." Improvements are always appropriate; it is difficult to see how simply deleting this introduction makes it less "vague or missing." One wonders what the issue is. Are we getting into the old heave-ho about wanting a sociological excursion into the causes of the social problems in the North-Central precinct? If there are published sources for such discussion, then by all means, why not. And Mr or Ms 24.71.100.216 should certainly feel free to go ahead and add such material. Otherwise surely no, and in the meantime, peremptorily deleting an innocuous introduction is surely vandalism. Masalai 06:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
The crime stats in the north central portion of this article all directly from the Regina Police Service and are relevant to this article, as the #1 issue or charteristic of the neighbourhood is the poverty and crime. One revert stated the stats were incorrect, what basis do you have for your ascertaination and can you link to it ? Otherwise, please leave the stats, as they are from a reliable source.-- 207.81.56.49 23:55, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Then may I suggest instead of deleting them, you might want to clarify the stats or find ones you deem more appropriate. This may be more constructive then deletion and possibly causing a revert war. I await your reverting the stats in North Central until such time that you can prove your claim or find alternate stats.-- 207.81.56.49 02:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Here, as promised, is the part with the stats:
Please do not reinsert. These stats are for the entire city and I don't know why you are reinserting them into such an inappropriate place. Please explain the rationale behind your insistence, Anon. IP editor. I don't dispute the stats except for the fact that they are in the wrong place. Also, this is an encyclopaedia and you cannot fool the reader into believing that such large increases are statistically meaningful, especially when the numbers are so low in the first place. Newspapers are interested in sensationalism not Wikipedia. Mumun 無文 17:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually could you stop deleting them, as I have stated above. However, feel free to add a clarification statement on the actual rise in numbers vs percentage. I have reinserted it and would hope that you would respectful enough to work around it, as opposed to deletion. The information is pertient to NC as it is where nearly 80% of the murders take place. You seem to have a strong POV on this article and the neighbourhood but could you please voice via additional text vs. deletion. I hope you can respect this request.-- 207.81.56.49 19:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Then please feel free to state that in the article. Wholesale deletion is akin to vandalism. As I have requested several times. Feel free to add your own text but PLEASE do not delete the stats. I hope that you can respect this request as well.-- 207.81.56.49 19:37, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
IF youre going to use small percentage stats perhaps we should use the latest stats on the Regina City police website ( http://www.reginapolice.ca/crime_stats/2007/feb.pdf) and show the huge decreases in crimes against the person and most other crimes in the city. Friesguy 17:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
How about we use the December 2006, year end found at ( http://www.reginapolice.ca/crime_stats/2006/dec_2006.pdf) and combine them with these year end stats from North central ( http://www.reginapolice.ca/neighbourhood_stats2006/north_central.htm) for a accurate perspective. I hope this is enough of a step towards your views to allow the edits to take place. I understand that some feel that it gives Regina a bad name but wiki isn't for promotion, it is for facts and these are facts. On another note, I am not a sock of anyone and the attempts to link me are bordering on conspiracy theory.-- 207.81.56.49 03:45, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
I have offered to a compromise over the disputed statistics for North Central. I have found a link to neighbourhood stats for NC for the year ending December 2006. I would like to place these in the article along side the stats for the entire city to show the amount of crime in NC compared with the city as a whole. Since the neighbourhood stats do not contain homicides, I will omit this disputed stat until such time that I can find a primary source for them, if at all. The links to the stats are above. It is my hope that this will be sufficient enough to allow me to edit the article without creating an edit war or unsubstantiated claims as to my identity. I feel that this is a fair compromise and hope to get some feedback on this proposal.-- 207.81.56.49 07:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Why do you stone wall every possible compromise ? Citywide stats and neighbourhood stats together give the full perspective of the situation. Speaking of Local Issue, I noticed on Talk: Regina, Saskatchewan (I believe) that you already shot down that idea from a banned user. I have attempted to compromise and will now , again , request mediation. It seems you three are out to conceal the FACTS.-- 207.81.56.49 16:04, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Mediation request submitted.-- 207.81.56.49 18:33, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Going ahead with previous compromise, please make an objections within 24 hours.-- 207.6.12.137 17:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Seeing no serious objections, although noting Kmsiever remarks. These remarks although noted contained no factual evidence as opposed to a body of statistics compiled by the local police authority, RPS. These stats are not only factual but are also broken into distinct neighbourhoods. It is this distinction that was the over-ruling evidence that this outline for a compromise met an necessary criteria as outlined in Wikipedia. Thank you everyone for you participation and 207.81.56.49 should feel free to go ahead with the proposed edits.-- 207.6.12.137 05:29, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Kmsiever, thank you for your concern but you have not provided any verifiable objections or any of any substance. None of the objections recorded on this talk page are objective and are therefore void. If anyone has a objection that is not a POV then please post it. Otherwise, 207.81.56.49 can edit at their leisure.-- 207.6.12.137 15:48, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Kmsiever, Again thank you for your concern but the notice was posted on this discussion page, my interactions have also been on here, as has polling. The research involved verifying the legitimacy of the statistics, disputed. I found the source to be a respectable organization with a vested interest in collecting the data and ensuring it is correct. I believe that I have completed more leg work in attempting to resolve this dispute and keeping the article as informative as possible. I would like to request that any and all objections meet the same stringent criteria has proposed by this edit and {[User:207.81.56.49|207.81.56.49]] , which appears to be more then fair given the subjective nature of the current objections. Thank you , again.-- 207.6.12.137 18:41, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
What consensus are you talking about? Is it still a consensus when 2 users have a POV? What are the objections since its relevance is a given? Please stop reverts, As I have done discuss further changes in here. Please provide eveidence to back up your claim. Thank you, again.-- 207.6.12.137 03:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I am thinking that if you asked anyone under the age of 40 where Germantown was in Regina, they wouldnt have any idea. Most of that area is now known as Eastview, Downtown transitional, General Hospital,and Chinatown. I dont know if there is a blanket name for the area, I suspect not, but I will do some digging and find out. Friesguy 21:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC) Friesguy 21:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to intrude but this area is now collectively referred to as the CORE area, all capitals. However, this area does not include Eastview but Germantown never did in the beginning. Many people know the history of this neighbourhood as many old German widows and couples reside in the area, even today, and many small booklets and pamphlets are available through the library on neighbourhood histories. Hope this helped.-- 207.6.12.137 05:32, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Could Masalai, Kmsiever and Mumun 無文 please stop your accusations and misinformation or produce a viable alternative or a reasonable answer as to why you have stated that the statistics are wrong? Also, could you please stop the reverting, I have reported it. I am somewhat confused at the hostility given to myself and others in the past. The three of you have shown your ability to judge and to sentence others for disagreeing with yourselves. I would be pleased to see the reasonable and intelligent side of you three. I look forward to some fruitful discussions on this subject. Thanks. --— Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.6.12.137 ( talk)
If that stats are true then your just being subjective or malicious.-- 207.6.12.137 15:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I want to enquire about the following interesting passages from the Crescents section:
This paragraph sure sounds like speculation and/or original research.
It is possibly significant from a sociological point of view that the only large church congregation within the Crescents is St Mary the Virgin Anglican, though the nowadays perhaps few churchgoing residents of wider West End are of course also amply served by the nearby Holy Rosary Cathedral (Roman Catholic) and Westminster United Church. That being said, and notwithstanding the mildly depressing assessments of the City of Regina zoning personnel, there are certainly affluent pockets throughout the "Cathedral Area" to the north and west of the Crescents.
Do we have any sources to back up any of these statements? -- Kmsiever 13:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Could the List of neighbourhoods/subdivisions be arranged so that it comprises two columns instead of one? I think the list is relevant. However, this is my bias but looooong lists like this with only one column do not do anything for the appearance of Wikipedia articles. Might this be rearranged into two columns? Mumun 無文 11:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
It may help you out to leave an introductory article about Regina neighborhoods and their evolution, and make individual articles about notable City of Regina neighborhoods according to Statistics Canada and the City of Regina Planning Department rather than these six major Regina cultural and or historical areas to help to maintain NPOV. If the City of Regina neighborhood articles follow the WP Cities article formatting with a layout similar to this outline... Saskatchewan Communities this perhaps may also help to maintain NPOV. Try perhaps looking at Neighborhoods in Boston, Massachusetts (from a feature article city), Meadowgreen, Stari Grad, Belgrade, or Briarwood or History of Saskatoon SriMesh | talk 01:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, here is what I propose to do with this section. It reads as follows:
Remove the section altogether — the list is inaccurate, full of spelling mistakes and in any case unimportant — and put a grammatically corrected version of the opening sentence, with an appropriate citation, in the opening paragraph of the article. It is hardly a violation of the neutral point of view policy of Wikipedia to discuss only those few neighbourhoods which are arguably "notable" in any sense (it is quite right in my view that only North Central is really so). If SriMesh would like to take another look at the list she has provided by way of fixing up its accuracy it could perhaps go back in, but I frankly don't see that it is a useful addition to the article. We don't want the article to become the (with great respect) mess that the Saskatoon article currently is, larded as it is with such lists which don't necessarily contain significant information. Any objections to this course? Masalai 05:41, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
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