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What happened to drummer George Spanos? George and I played together in Detroit in the early 70s. I played bass. - 68.96.56.11
(Did mama sing tenor?)
Rebone had at least one vinyl 12-inch LP record in the quadraphonic SQ format. Though not super-rare you sure don't see the quad LPs every day. The incredibly lovely and talented Obbop told yah' this. 209.50.1.33 22:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Since there's a problem with providing "fair use" validation for graphics here, I am searching out probably copyrighted but privately owned pictures of the band from sources easily reached for copyright permission. (Getting permissions from Sony et al. being nearly impossible; they claim to have purchased repro rights for the album graphics, and are not the rights owners). This has the additional benefit that such sources had contact with the band, and are being asked to provide recollections. Any results will be edited in as received. If anyone has any connections to previous members that I can follow up on, please forward any contact info (no matter how informal) and I'll do the reaching.
Dennis McClain-Furmanski ex-Producer and DJ Inside The Circle WUVT Virginia Tech 1997-2001 and ex-Nammies member
drmcclainphd at gmail dot com Drmcclainphd 00:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Drummer Peter DePoe (born 1943, Neah Bay, Washington, D.C.)
Neah Bay is in Washington State, Neah Bay being the Makah reservation. Brothers Pat and Lolly Vegas are originally from Fresno,California. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggonzales1984 ( talk • contribs) 08:38, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
This article has been revised as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See the investigation subpage) Earlier text must not be restored, unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. Diannaa ( talk) 20:45, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
This article gushes relentlessly, uses exclamations, reads like an advertisement for the band, and contains a lot of unsourced specific information. This is not a band mom's blog, but it sure looks like one.
I've taken the first steps to clean it up, but there remains a lot of work to be done. I tagged a lot of uncited content, and removed a lot more. The majority of the content I tagged as "citation needed" could probably stand to be deleted altogether, but I figured I would give someone a chance to back the facts up.
If we can't get some good citations and a solid encyclopedic tone going, this article will be due for a harsh pruning, and possibly a total rewrite. Matt S. ( talk) 02:31, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
In the History section of the article, the 70's image of the late Lolly Vegas has been misidentified as Pat Vegas in the caption beneath said image. The name caption should be changed to Lolly Vegas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Will Sipabitz ( talk • contribs) 06:06, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone proofread this stuff?!?! What makes them 'Latin'??? Why are they native American/Latin here and Native American/Mexican on the page for Tony Bellamy? The 'Almond' Brothers?!? Who are they? 'Redbone' is not a Cajun term by any stretch. Let's not even get into grammar, punctuation and structure. Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.22.255.178 ( talk) 19:36, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
"Redbone achieved hits with their singles "We Were All Wounded At Wounded Knee", " The Witch Queen of New Orleans", "Wovoka", and "Maggie" in the United States, but predominantly overseas."
This sentence makes no logical sense as it stands right now. I think I know what the editor was going for, but I am not certain enough to make the edit. Is the point they enjoyed better reception overseas? Is the point the singles charted higher/better overseas? I'm leaving it in for now instead of just chopping it out. If I get a chance I will dig into this, but if someone else has the time and willingness to do so please proceed. THX1136 ( talk) 21:02, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
I removed the claim of involvement with the Munsters TV show theme due to the information provided by this source: https://secondhandsongs.com/work/117434 - accessed on 2018/02/21. While I know this is just one source there is no mention of Pat Vegas being involved with the theme as implied by the original claim in the article. If a suitable source is found to back up the claim it can certainly be restored. THX1136 ( talk) 03:01, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
It is probable that Pat played bass in the "small studio ensemble" mentioned in the article, but he is not mentioned by name. I've looked at a few other articles without any mention of Vegas. I've also came across a couple of interviews where he claims to have helped with the theme. THX1136 ( talk) 20:51, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
In the first paragraph it is said they reached No 5 on Billboard Hot 100, yet a bit further it says it is the first native american band to reach No 1 single. I do not understand this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilpop ( talk • contribs) 15:38, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
The claim that Hendrix was Cherokee is completely unsourced here, and from other sources and discussion over at Hendrix's wiki page, this is a contentious topic at best. Would be better to at least say something like "Hendrix, who also believed himself to be Cherokee", and include a source.
However, it's not totally clear that Hendrix's beliefs about his own heritage are even relevant in this discussion. The relevant source ( https://www.nativeamericanmusicawards.com/nama-10) mentions nothing about Hendrix believing he had Cherokee heritage, and so there is no reason to think his beliefs influenced or in any way related to him encouraging these musicians to form Redbone. Toferdelachris ( talk) 21:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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What happened to drummer George Spanos? George and I played together in Detroit in the early 70s. I played bass. - 68.96.56.11
(Did mama sing tenor?)
Rebone had at least one vinyl 12-inch LP record in the quadraphonic SQ format. Though not super-rare you sure don't see the quad LPs every day. The incredibly lovely and talented Obbop told yah' this. 209.50.1.33 22:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Since there's a problem with providing "fair use" validation for graphics here, I am searching out probably copyrighted but privately owned pictures of the band from sources easily reached for copyright permission. (Getting permissions from Sony et al. being nearly impossible; they claim to have purchased repro rights for the album graphics, and are not the rights owners). This has the additional benefit that such sources had contact with the band, and are being asked to provide recollections. Any results will be edited in as received. If anyone has any connections to previous members that I can follow up on, please forward any contact info (no matter how informal) and I'll do the reaching.
Dennis McClain-Furmanski ex-Producer and DJ Inside The Circle WUVT Virginia Tech 1997-2001 and ex-Nammies member
drmcclainphd at gmail dot com Drmcclainphd 00:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Drummer Peter DePoe (born 1943, Neah Bay, Washington, D.C.)
Neah Bay is in Washington State, Neah Bay being the Makah reservation. Brothers Pat and Lolly Vegas are originally from Fresno,California. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggonzales1984 ( talk • contribs) 08:38, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
This article has been revised as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See the investigation subpage) Earlier text must not be restored, unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. Diannaa ( talk) 20:45, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
This article gushes relentlessly, uses exclamations, reads like an advertisement for the band, and contains a lot of unsourced specific information. This is not a band mom's blog, but it sure looks like one.
I've taken the first steps to clean it up, but there remains a lot of work to be done. I tagged a lot of uncited content, and removed a lot more. The majority of the content I tagged as "citation needed" could probably stand to be deleted altogether, but I figured I would give someone a chance to back the facts up.
If we can't get some good citations and a solid encyclopedic tone going, this article will be due for a harsh pruning, and possibly a total rewrite. Matt S. ( talk) 02:31, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
In the History section of the article, the 70's image of the late Lolly Vegas has been misidentified as Pat Vegas in the caption beneath said image. The name caption should be changed to Lolly Vegas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Will Sipabitz ( talk • contribs) 06:06, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone proofread this stuff?!?! What makes them 'Latin'??? Why are they native American/Latin here and Native American/Mexican on the page for Tony Bellamy? The 'Almond' Brothers?!? Who are they? 'Redbone' is not a Cajun term by any stretch. Let's not even get into grammar, punctuation and structure. Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.22.255.178 ( talk) 19:36, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
"Redbone achieved hits with their singles "We Were All Wounded At Wounded Knee", " The Witch Queen of New Orleans", "Wovoka", and "Maggie" in the United States, but predominantly overseas."
This sentence makes no logical sense as it stands right now. I think I know what the editor was going for, but I am not certain enough to make the edit. Is the point they enjoyed better reception overseas? Is the point the singles charted higher/better overseas? I'm leaving it in for now instead of just chopping it out. If I get a chance I will dig into this, but if someone else has the time and willingness to do so please proceed. THX1136 ( talk) 21:02, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
I removed the claim of involvement with the Munsters TV show theme due to the information provided by this source: https://secondhandsongs.com/work/117434 - accessed on 2018/02/21. While I know this is just one source there is no mention of Pat Vegas being involved with the theme as implied by the original claim in the article. If a suitable source is found to back up the claim it can certainly be restored. THX1136 ( talk) 03:01, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
It is probable that Pat played bass in the "small studio ensemble" mentioned in the article, but he is not mentioned by name. I've looked at a few other articles without any mention of Vegas. I've also came across a couple of interviews where he claims to have helped with the theme. THX1136 ( talk) 20:51, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
In the first paragraph it is said they reached No 5 on Billboard Hot 100, yet a bit further it says it is the first native american band to reach No 1 single. I do not understand this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilpop ( talk • contribs) 15:38, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
The claim that Hendrix was Cherokee is completely unsourced here, and from other sources and discussion over at Hendrix's wiki page, this is a contentious topic at best. Would be better to at least say something like "Hendrix, who also believed himself to be Cherokee", and include a source.
However, it's not totally clear that Hendrix's beliefs about his own heritage are even relevant in this discussion. The relevant source ( https://www.nativeamericanmusicawards.com/nama-10) mentions nothing about Hendrix believing he had Cherokee heritage, and so there is no reason to think his beliefs influenced or in any way related to him encouraging these musicians to form Redbone. Toferdelachris ( talk) 21:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC)