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The spiders in the article are black widows, not redbacks. See http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&e=24&u=/nm/20050211/od_nm/australia_spiders_dc for pictures of actual redback spiders.
MSTCrow 06:13, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)
I've updated the photo with a picture of an actual Redback spider taken outside my house yesterday.
Orichalcon 02:43, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
Can we resolve "lightning speed" ("Prey" section) with "slow moving" ("Bites in humans" section)?
Just keeping notes here on sources reporting deaths. Feel free to add to it. -- 99of9 ( talk) 11:13, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I was told when doing medic training that there had been no deaths purely attributable to red back bite since the anti-venom became widely available. Djapa Owen ( talk) 14:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
My concern with these references is that they are newspaper articles from many years ago. such that the medical details are not universally investigated. It is easy to say someone was bitten. But proof needs more elements: a spider identified by a spider expert, a collection of symptoms consistent with latrodectism. Since death is a rare event (an extraordinary outcome) The threshold for credible evidence is even higher. These claims meet the threshold of a wiki: that is is widely reported in the 1930-50's that redback bite had resulted in death. But They don't hold scientific rigor. Especially when there are no contemporary deaths. Attributing that to antivenom is suspect. Antivenom was used in Los Angeles, USA in the 20's. PMCID PMC1655382 It was used in Italy in the 50's. PMID: 14301291 . Moreover there should be deaths by people unable to reach medical attention. This is the cae with another arachnid teh scorpion in Morocco. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moderntarantula ( talk • contribs) 17:20, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
2nd image stating 'male redback' is wrong ! While it is smaller, the male is identical to female without red stripe. The image used is actually some kind of 'Orb Weaver', non-venomous. 49.181.3.216 ( talk) 08:23, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 07:55, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
The spiders in the article are black widows, not redbacks. See http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&e=24&u=/nm/20050211/od_nm/australia_spiders_dc for pictures of actual redback spiders.
MSTCrow 06:13, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)
I've updated the photo with a picture of an actual Redback spider taken outside my house yesterday.
Orichalcon 02:43, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
Can we resolve "lightning speed" ("Prey" section) with "slow moving" ("Bites in humans" section)?
Just keeping notes here on sources reporting deaths. Feel free to add to it. -- 99of9 ( talk) 11:13, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I was told when doing medic training that there had been no deaths purely attributable to red back bite since the anti-venom became widely available. Djapa Owen ( talk) 14:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
My concern with these references is that they are newspaper articles from many years ago. such that the medical details are not universally investigated. It is easy to say someone was bitten. But proof needs more elements: a spider identified by a spider expert, a collection of symptoms consistent with latrodectism. Since death is a rare event (an extraordinary outcome) The threshold for credible evidence is even higher. These claims meet the threshold of a wiki: that is is widely reported in the 1930-50's that redback bite had resulted in death. But They don't hold scientific rigor. Especially when there are no contemporary deaths. Attributing that to antivenom is suspect. Antivenom was used in Los Angeles, USA in the 20's. PMCID PMC1655382 It was used in Italy in the 50's. PMID: 14301291 . Moreover there should be deaths by people unable to reach medical attention. This is the cae with another arachnid teh scorpion in Morocco. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moderntarantula ( talk • contribs) 17:20, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
2nd image stating 'male redback' is wrong ! While it is smaller, the male is identical to female without red stripe. The image used is actually some kind of 'Orb Weaver', non-venomous. 49.181.3.216 ( talk) 08:23, 3 August 2022 (UTC)