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I grew up on the Red River of the North and I never read about, nor heard oral history from old-timers, of a flood (let alone a major flood) in 1826. No one was recording floods that early either. One of the early and major floods of record was 1897. Others after that were 1948, 1950, 1966, 1969, 1979, and 1997. There were other minor floods in other years. I challenge the 1826 date... -- 6 October 2005 (UTC) Trish Lewis
Hi, I edited the damages to Manitoba to 500 million from 51 million. First 51 seems really, really low considering the extent of the damages. I don't have a 'real' source right off-hand, but the article on the 1997 Red River Flood has a figure of 500 million, so that's what I used.
The Metric distances need to have Imperial equivalents. clariosophic ( talk) 13:28, 13 December 2007 (UTC) I have put in the ones I found in the Time Almanac 2003, but there are more. clariosophic ( talk) 13:39, 13 December 2007 (UTC) Also it would be helful to have a breakdown of the distances in the US and in Canada. It appears that the distance in the US is more than half of the total length. clariosophic ( talk) 13:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC) According to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, the length the US is 394 miles. [2] clariosophic ( talk) 14:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
There is no reason to use Imperial measure. Metric measure is appropriate for any Wikipedia article, and also appropriate for an article about Canada. U.S. Customary measure is appropriate for an article about the U.S. Imperial measure is irrelevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 ( talk) 14:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
What's the correct name, just "Red River" or "Red River of the North" 63.26.74.103 ( talk) 06:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)eric
the local news up here just calls it the Red River, Red River Valley, ect. i think the of the north bit is just used to tell which red river is being talked about —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.17.201.80 ( talk) 03:43, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
The map of the Red River is entirely inaccurate. The Red River does NOT start in Fargo and flow north, it starts further south. Someone needs to update this map —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.21.234.190 ( talk) 14:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Would anyone mind if I exchange the image in the infobox of the page with this one: Red River? TRBP talk 19:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Not moved per consensus. ( non-admin closure) Tiggerjay ( talk) 22:56, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
– The WP:COMMONNAME of both rivers is simply "Red River." Most locals of both rivers probably don't even know there's another river with the same name. Most maps (if not, all the maps I've looked at) simply use "Red River" when labeling them. The only time these rivers are referred to as such is when there might be confusion, but even then, that's rare. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:34, 8 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 ( talk) 08:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Oppose: There are 24 officially named "Red River"s in the US. Both the Red River of the North and Red River of the South have Britannica articles under these names. Other RS also use these names. The USGS Geonames database officially names the "Red River of the North" with Red River a variant. No reason to think these titles will confuse anyone. -- Mike Cline ( talk) 00:20, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Comment: I would argue that "Red River of the South" is far more common than the clearly ambiguous "Red River" which requires uncommon disambiguation.
A number of small, intermittent streams rising on the High Plains section of Texas join to form the Red River of the South, which then flows south and east for 1,300 miles before entering the Mississippi River.
— Durrenberger, R. W. (1998). Red River of the South. The new encyclopedia of the American West. CT: Yale University Press.
The major tributaries are the Arkansas and the Red River of the South, which reach the Mississippi from the west.
— Durrenberger, R. W. (1998). Mississippi River. The new encyclopedia of the American West. CT: Yale University Press.
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I grew up on the Red River of the North and I never read about, nor heard oral history from old-timers, of a flood (let alone a major flood) in 1826. No one was recording floods that early either. One of the early and major floods of record was 1897. Others after that were 1948, 1950, 1966, 1969, 1979, and 1997. There were other minor floods in other years. I challenge the 1826 date... -- 6 October 2005 (UTC) Trish Lewis
Hi, I edited the damages to Manitoba to 500 million from 51 million. First 51 seems really, really low considering the extent of the damages. I don't have a 'real' source right off-hand, but the article on the 1997 Red River Flood has a figure of 500 million, so that's what I used.
The Metric distances need to have Imperial equivalents. clariosophic ( talk) 13:28, 13 December 2007 (UTC) I have put in the ones I found in the Time Almanac 2003, but there are more. clariosophic ( talk) 13:39, 13 December 2007 (UTC) Also it would be helful to have a breakdown of the distances in the US and in Canada. It appears that the distance in the US is more than half of the total length. clariosophic ( talk) 13:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC) According to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, the length the US is 394 miles. [2] clariosophic ( talk) 14:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
There is no reason to use Imperial measure. Metric measure is appropriate for any Wikipedia article, and also appropriate for an article about Canada. U.S. Customary measure is appropriate for an article about the U.S. Imperial measure is irrelevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 ( talk) 14:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
What's the correct name, just "Red River" or "Red River of the North" 63.26.74.103 ( talk) 06:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)eric
the local news up here just calls it the Red River, Red River Valley, ect. i think the of the north bit is just used to tell which red river is being talked about —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.17.201.80 ( talk) 03:43, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
The map of the Red River is entirely inaccurate. The Red River does NOT start in Fargo and flow north, it starts further south. Someone needs to update this map —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.21.234.190 ( talk) 14:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Would anyone mind if I exchange the image in the infobox of the page with this one: Red River? TRBP talk 19:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Not moved per consensus. ( non-admin closure) Tiggerjay ( talk) 22:56, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
– The WP:COMMONNAME of both rivers is simply "Red River." Most locals of both rivers probably don't even know there's another river with the same name. Most maps (if not, all the maps I've looked at) simply use "Red River" when labeling them. The only time these rivers are referred to as such is when there might be confusion, but even then, that's rare. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:34, 8 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 ( talk) 08:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Oppose: There are 24 officially named "Red River"s in the US. Both the Red River of the North and Red River of the South have Britannica articles under these names. Other RS also use these names. The USGS Geonames database officially names the "Red River of the North" with Red River a variant. No reason to think these titles will confuse anyone. -- Mike Cline ( talk) 00:20, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Comment: I would argue that "Red River of the South" is far more common than the clearly ambiguous "Red River" which requires uncommon disambiguation.
A number of small, intermittent streams rising on the High Plains section of Texas join to form the Red River of the South, which then flows south and east for 1,300 miles before entering the Mississippi River.
— Durrenberger, R. W. (1998). Red River of the South. The new encyclopedia of the American West. CT: Yale University Press.
The major tributaries are the Arkansas and the Red River of the South, which reach the Mississippi from the west.
— Durrenberger, R. W. (1998). Mississippi River. The new encyclopedia of the American West. CT: Yale University Press.
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