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These two sentences seem to contradict each other. Why is a sign needed if it's so safe - usually safer, the previous text claims, than fresh water from the tap? Tempshill 03:00, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
ITS DEFINITELY NOT. I personally changed this article because i could not beleive that someone actually wrote that it was CLEANER than drinking water becasue it has removed some of the moinerals present in drinking water. You can actually smel the sewage in reclaimed water when people use it in sprinklers and other things. There are nearly 30 different chemicals present in it including hormones like birth control and pharmaceuticals and other things that the long-term effects on the human body are unknown. No one should EVER drink reclaimed water. [This unsigned comment was made by User 65.35.244.139]
Note to editor... The chemicals you claim to be found In reclaimed water are also found in the aquifers. And most if not all surface water. Please do more through research before making such claims — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.68.242.43 ( talk) 16:47, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
Reclaimed water can be made clean to any arbitrary level required. In NSW, Australia, reclaimed water is indeed made cleaner than ordinary "tap water". There are political/psychological reasons it is not actually used for drinking, but it is completely potable. Ordinary Person 00:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Edit of 06:06, 3 February 2007 by 124.180.72.244
However, the U.S. has found similar tests unreliable.
You can't just say 'the US' without refering to a specific organisation. Additionally, editing this sentence in where you have gives the casual reader the impression that the pre-existing reference which now follows the new sentence contains information supporting the new information, which is most certainly does not (at no stage during the transcript is any U.S. organisation mentioned). Draffa 22:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
The current text includes this line:
Reclaimed water is not directly mixed with potable (drinking) water for several reasons:
This seems a very broad statement. Currently reclaimed water is turned into potable water in various places, by feeding the reclaimed water back into the dams that provide water that is made potable and distributed as tap water.
That is to say, "reclaimed water" and "potable water" are two intersecting sets, not mutually exclusive categories. Ordinary Person 00:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
The ignorant barrier some people have created upon themselves is unbeleiveable. Do your research... recycled water is perfectly fine to wash, bath-in or drink. It is water treated after the secondary treatment and through the processes of Microfiltration and Reverse Osmosis. And.....yes by this stage it is perfectly fine to drink. No you will not get diseased, sick, or someway deformed. All you will get is pure drinking water. I believe you are deeply inconsiderate if your are against recycled water. Grow up....learn the facts....its not sewage. Plus other alternatives such as dessalinisation, just arn't a viable long-term solution (high costs and high usage of electricity). Ignorance can be overcome quite easily......so do just that.
No one knows what pollutants or mircrobes remain in reclaimed effluent. Leading experts who are not in the employ of the huge wastewater industry warn of risks to public health. Do your research. Notindustry ( talk) 23:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
The reference provided lists a number of properties of reclaimed water but does not compare to standard drinking water. And the properties listed are not all the possible measures of how "clean" the water is. -- Barrylb 04:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Reclaimed water used for irrigation does not have reverse osmosis or microfiltation. According to USDA, "Using present technologies, municipal wastewater may not completely disinfect recycled irrigation waters,and can contain enough pathogenic organisms to threaten human health once released into the environment" US Dept of Agriculture, 2005 report. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notindustry ( talk • contribs) 15:51, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Google has more hits for "recycled water" than "reclaimed water". Currently recycled water redirects to reclaimed water. Perhaps it should be the other way around. -- Barrylb 12:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Reclaimed irrigation water does not use reverse osmosis or mircrofiltration. According to USDA "Using present technologies, municipal wastewater treatment may not completely disinfect recycled irrigation waters,...Recycled water used for agricultural and municipal irrigation can contain enough pathogenic organisms to threaten human health once released to the environment." The same report says that organic chemicals in reclaimed pose an unknown risk to the environment. US Dept of Agriculture, 2005 annual report. Notindustry ( talk) 16:06, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Payson, Arizona lies at an altitude of about 5,000-Ft at the foot of the Mogollon Rim. It is arid (20-24 inches rainfall average) but not a desert : Ponderosa Pine country. Of course, the area is subject to drouths, some severe. It is a growing community under conditions of very little private land : Residential prices are skyrocketing.
As a component in a larger program program dealing with water problems, the town takes a part of the "almost potable" effluent water from the local sewage treatment plant and feeds it into the Town Lakes. There, the water percolates from the bottom of the lakes into the local aquifer below, where it is considered "fully potable" == and tests that way. It is estimated that an amount of water is recovered in this way to account for about 30% of the water needs of the Town in the winter. A higher proportion of the Twon's requirements will likely be possible in the future as the Town will no longer sell effluent for private purposes -- and as the rules regarding irrigation are tightened.
What IS hard to understand is why the Valley (Metropolitan Phoenix) does not have any similar WATER REUSE policies in place. Inquiries are ignored.
Reference - www.ci.payson.az.us/Departments/water/ResourceDevelopment/gvp-recharge.htm
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Turns out that the QLD Government is calling the Referndum a Plebiscite instead, since the word Referendum is specifically mention in the Constitution re changing governence. In reality, there is next to no difference, as the Plebiscite is still non-binding. Draffa 19:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Quote from one of the currently-linked ABC Online articles:
Many local councils have supported Mr Beattie's decision, but former Toowoomba mayor Clive Berghofer says the food export industry is now in danger.
For any Aussies reading, Clive has substantial interests in land slated for development in Toowoomba. He was outspoken in the Toowoomba Plebescite on RW last year. One might suspect he wasn't concerned over the quality of the water, but rather the potential impact on property prices for newly-developed land. His statement over the now-cancelled South-east Queensland Plebescite seem to indicate his position still stands. Similar objections were raised several years ago by a Mayoral Candidate when Caboolture considered implementing Recycled Water some years ago during another severe drought (best summarised as "They want you to drink poo!").
Not that the water really matters to Clive, since the ABC's Quantum program has shown his 'house-sized' water tank under his suburban house. :D Draffa 17:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
"Humans may face psychological barriers against drinking reclaimed water, since it was formerly sewage".
Do the folks who have psychological problems with drinking reclaimed water ever consider the places where their breathing air has recently been -- say, through the nearest sewer or autopsy facility -- and that without any subsequent treatment ?
"Fresh air" contains a wonderful variety of the worst kind of filth and noxious substances -- but fortunately our bodies filter or reject most of it.
A touch of rationality does wonders. Allenwoll 00:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
(Hear! Hear! Cynthisa ( talk) 17:45, 13 March 2015 (UTC))
I find it amusing that it has been considered a great step forward in sanitation to pipe sewage away from areas of human population. Now it is considered progess to give sewer water minimal treatment and to irrigate our lawns with it. It has been notoriously difficut to clean this water, especially of those fragments of pathogens which confer drug resistance on other microbes. Before giving it higher treatment and using it for drinking, many more studies, such as those using live fish, are needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notindustry ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
70,000,000 gallons a day water reclaimation plant- purifies water coming from homes and will put it back in with the water supply for people rather than discharge it uncleaned into the ocean. - in orange county.. heard on news. may already be in article. smaller version of same plant already in singapore -- Emesee ( talk) 02:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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reclaimed water used for irrigation of lawns, golf courses etc. rarely receives tertiary treatment and does not get reverse osmosis or microfiltration. In its 2005 annual report, the USDA recognizes that endocrine disrupting chemicals and pathogens, including drug resistant bacteria cannot be removed with present technology, and can pose an environmental and human health threat. Notindustry ( talk) 18:12, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Thought this might be worth adding to the article but I don't have time to do it at the moment: http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/090520-space-urine.html Robogymnast ( talk) 18:06, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
" Reclaimed water planned for use in recharging aquifers or augmenting surface water receives adequate and reliable treatment..." Yes? This may or may not be true.-- Wetman ( talk) 15:10, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I'd like to add some text about a January 2012 National Research Council report about water reuse. You can read more about the report here: http://dels.nas.edu/Report/Water-Reuse-Potential-Expanding/13303
This is the text I'd like to add:
Does this seem OK? I'd welcome any feedback. Thanks, Earlgrey101 ( talk) 23:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
References
I recently came across this Wikipedia article: Environmental persistent pharmaceutical pollutant. The article has some issues and needs some work. Nevertheless, I think it might be relevant to link to it, e.g. under concerns it could be linked in a sentence or provided as "further information". What do you all think about this? EvM-Susana ( talk) 08:47, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
I propose to merge this page with the page on water reclamation. I have also said the same on the other talk page but there have been no responses. As this page here is more detailed I propose to move/merge the content of water reclamation to here and then to have a re-direct from water reclamation to here. What do others think? E.g. Thewellman, Velella EvM-Susana ( talk) 06:29, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
More photos could be added, quite a few are in Wikimedia Commons, just look for keywords like "wastewater reuse", "tertiary treatment", "water reclamation" etc. I have just added one which in my opinion is more suitable than that photo of a manhole cover in California which was there before. EvM-Susana ( talk) 13:31, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
To User:Bio-CLC: I have edited the text that is now under "health aspects (potable use)". However, I am not too sure if this is sufficiently clear: "This would be of much less concern if the population were to keep their excrement out of the wastewater e.g. via the use of the Urine-diverting dry toilet or systems that treat blackwater separately from greywater." - Keeping those streams separate would deal with the pathogen and pharmaceutical residues issue but not with the household chemicals issue: shampoo, soap, detergent etc. would all be in the greywater and could hence also end up in the potable reuse water. - Also, we should cite some high quality sources here. EvM-Susana ( talk) 14:16, 9 July 2015 (UTC) To User:EvM-Susana Good point, but I think we can agree to worry most about pharmaceuticals, since they are specifically designed to affect the human body. The full idea is to keep these wastewater streams separate and send them somewhere they will be useful while staying away from others' drinking water. In particular, I think one of the best options would be process blackwater and then use it again in the same toilets. In this way, the Environmentally Persistent Pharmaceutical Pollutants stay in the system instead of contaminating surface or ground water. If the water is being with biological systems, such as anaerobic digestion, followed by artificial wetlands, I would expect the bacteria to get more and more efficient at breaking down these EPPPs and in the mean time no one has any contact with them. The water would be color-less, smell-free and acceptably free from pathogens, etc., so the users would not even notice the difference, and they already careful to not touch the water in the toilet. (I have searched the internet and asked the Sustainable Sanitation Alliance Forum and have found no cases of such closed-loop recycling of just blackwater.) This would be very important in California with the current, growing drought. Does anyone know who to send the idea to there? Bio-CLC ( talk) 03:19, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I've just realised that there is now an article on wastewater reuse which had a redirect to here but where the redirect was taken out in October 2016. It seems to be totally overlapping with this topic here so I propose to put the redirect back into place and to move anything that is worth saving to the article here. What do people think (for example User:Velella, User:Thewellman)? EMsmile ( talk) 13:40, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
There are a lot of examples in this article. Some are provided in the type of reuse section. And some in a country section. I am wondering if this could be somehow streamlined but am not sure what's better. I am leaning towards putting examples by country, rather than by type of reuse. EMsmile ( talk) 16:12, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Giving you an update about further work I am doing today: After speaking to another Wikipedian, I realised that the article is still too long and drawn out. So I will do some more work on compressing the content. E.g. the examples section is far too long. I will move some examples to other Wikipedia articles where it fits. EMsmile ( talk) 10:43, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Here is a good reference which can be used to pull out some further figures at the global level for wastewater as a resource. I have added it in one place but it could be used more: [1]
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I've just replaced the text for two of the country examples (United States, South Africa) with excerpts from the respective sub-articles. The aim is here to not duplicate content and to only update content in one place, not in two. The same could now be done for the other country examples. However, I wonder how we determine which countries to include here? How many? When does it get tedious? Maybe only those countries that are very active with those wastewater reuse activities. I am also mindful that we shouldn't just think of wealthy countries (Euro and US bias). Then again in developing countries, wastewater reuse takes place too but usually without advanced treatment (or even any form of treatment) and sometimes this causes dangerous side effects (health and pollution). Not sure if this is adequately covered/explained in this article yet. EMsmile ( talk) 04:09, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
I actually wonder about the best title for this topic. Personally, I actually would prefer the article to be called "wastewater reuse" and have "reclaimed water" redirect to there (after merging the content). I think the article on "reclaimed water" is currently in better shape, but the title "wastewater reuse" is possibly more appropriate. "Reclaimed water" for me is a bit a "political term", making it sound nicer than what it is. Opinions? EMsmile ( talk) 22:50, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
I thought more about renaming this to wastewater reuse. But the article also contains some information on reusing stormwater or rainwater harvesting which would then no longer fit. What to do? EMsmile ( talk) 16:12, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
I propose creating created a short section containing basic information about WateReuse. The existing article about WateReuse contains conflicting statements and other flaws, however, WateReuse appears in many citations, and at least 10 Wikipedia articles link to WateReuse. Wikipedia should tell readers what is known about WateReuse, without offering unsupported details. Comfr ( talk) 18:02, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline ( talk) 12:19, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Reclaimed water → Wastewater reuse – I propose to change the title to the more accurate term "wastewater reuse" as per discussion on the talk page. The page "wastewater reuse" is currently a redirect to "reclaimed water" so would have to be deleted first. EMsmile ( talk) 09:04, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
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These two sentences seem to contradict each other. Why is a sign needed if it's so safe - usually safer, the previous text claims, than fresh water from the tap? Tempshill 03:00, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
ITS DEFINITELY NOT. I personally changed this article because i could not beleive that someone actually wrote that it was CLEANER than drinking water becasue it has removed some of the moinerals present in drinking water. You can actually smel the sewage in reclaimed water when people use it in sprinklers and other things. There are nearly 30 different chemicals present in it including hormones like birth control and pharmaceuticals and other things that the long-term effects on the human body are unknown. No one should EVER drink reclaimed water. [This unsigned comment was made by User 65.35.244.139]
Note to editor... The chemicals you claim to be found In reclaimed water are also found in the aquifers. And most if not all surface water. Please do more through research before making such claims — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.68.242.43 ( talk) 16:47, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
Reclaimed water can be made clean to any arbitrary level required. In NSW, Australia, reclaimed water is indeed made cleaner than ordinary "tap water". There are political/psychological reasons it is not actually used for drinking, but it is completely potable. Ordinary Person 00:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Edit of 06:06, 3 February 2007 by 124.180.72.244
However, the U.S. has found similar tests unreliable.
You can't just say 'the US' without refering to a specific organisation. Additionally, editing this sentence in where you have gives the casual reader the impression that the pre-existing reference which now follows the new sentence contains information supporting the new information, which is most certainly does not (at no stage during the transcript is any U.S. organisation mentioned). Draffa 22:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
The current text includes this line:
Reclaimed water is not directly mixed with potable (drinking) water for several reasons:
This seems a very broad statement. Currently reclaimed water is turned into potable water in various places, by feeding the reclaimed water back into the dams that provide water that is made potable and distributed as tap water.
That is to say, "reclaimed water" and "potable water" are two intersecting sets, not mutually exclusive categories. Ordinary Person 00:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
The ignorant barrier some people have created upon themselves is unbeleiveable. Do your research... recycled water is perfectly fine to wash, bath-in or drink. It is water treated after the secondary treatment and through the processes of Microfiltration and Reverse Osmosis. And.....yes by this stage it is perfectly fine to drink. No you will not get diseased, sick, or someway deformed. All you will get is pure drinking water. I believe you are deeply inconsiderate if your are against recycled water. Grow up....learn the facts....its not sewage. Plus other alternatives such as dessalinisation, just arn't a viable long-term solution (high costs and high usage of electricity). Ignorance can be overcome quite easily......so do just that.
No one knows what pollutants or mircrobes remain in reclaimed effluent. Leading experts who are not in the employ of the huge wastewater industry warn of risks to public health. Do your research. Notindustry ( talk) 23:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
The reference provided lists a number of properties of reclaimed water but does not compare to standard drinking water. And the properties listed are not all the possible measures of how "clean" the water is. -- Barrylb 04:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Reclaimed water used for irrigation does not have reverse osmosis or microfiltation. According to USDA, "Using present technologies, municipal wastewater may not completely disinfect recycled irrigation waters,and can contain enough pathogenic organisms to threaten human health once released into the environment" US Dept of Agriculture, 2005 report. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notindustry ( talk • contribs) 15:51, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Google has more hits for "recycled water" than "reclaimed water". Currently recycled water redirects to reclaimed water. Perhaps it should be the other way around. -- Barrylb 12:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Reclaimed irrigation water does not use reverse osmosis or mircrofiltration. According to USDA "Using present technologies, municipal wastewater treatment may not completely disinfect recycled irrigation waters,...Recycled water used for agricultural and municipal irrigation can contain enough pathogenic organisms to threaten human health once released to the environment." The same report says that organic chemicals in reclaimed pose an unknown risk to the environment. US Dept of Agriculture, 2005 annual report. Notindustry ( talk) 16:06, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Payson, Arizona lies at an altitude of about 5,000-Ft at the foot of the Mogollon Rim. It is arid (20-24 inches rainfall average) but not a desert : Ponderosa Pine country. Of course, the area is subject to drouths, some severe. It is a growing community under conditions of very little private land : Residential prices are skyrocketing.
As a component in a larger program program dealing with water problems, the town takes a part of the "almost potable" effluent water from the local sewage treatment plant and feeds it into the Town Lakes. There, the water percolates from the bottom of the lakes into the local aquifer below, where it is considered "fully potable" == and tests that way. It is estimated that an amount of water is recovered in this way to account for about 30% of the water needs of the Town in the winter. A higher proportion of the Twon's requirements will likely be possible in the future as the Town will no longer sell effluent for private purposes -- and as the rules regarding irrigation are tightened.
What IS hard to understand is why the Valley (Metropolitan Phoenix) does not have any similar WATER REUSE policies in place. Inquiries are ignored.
Reference - www.ci.payson.az.us/Departments/water/ResourceDevelopment/gvp-recharge.htm
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Turns out that the QLD Government is calling the Referndum a Plebiscite instead, since the word Referendum is specifically mention in the Constitution re changing governence. In reality, there is next to no difference, as the Plebiscite is still non-binding. Draffa 19:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Quote from one of the currently-linked ABC Online articles:
Many local councils have supported Mr Beattie's decision, but former Toowoomba mayor Clive Berghofer says the food export industry is now in danger.
For any Aussies reading, Clive has substantial interests in land slated for development in Toowoomba. He was outspoken in the Toowoomba Plebescite on RW last year. One might suspect he wasn't concerned over the quality of the water, but rather the potential impact on property prices for newly-developed land. His statement over the now-cancelled South-east Queensland Plebescite seem to indicate his position still stands. Similar objections were raised several years ago by a Mayoral Candidate when Caboolture considered implementing Recycled Water some years ago during another severe drought (best summarised as "They want you to drink poo!").
Not that the water really matters to Clive, since the ABC's Quantum program has shown his 'house-sized' water tank under his suburban house. :D Draffa 17:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
"Humans may face psychological barriers against drinking reclaimed water, since it was formerly sewage".
Do the folks who have psychological problems with drinking reclaimed water ever consider the places where their breathing air has recently been -- say, through the nearest sewer or autopsy facility -- and that without any subsequent treatment ?
"Fresh air" contains a wonderful variety of the worst kind of filth and noxious substances -- but fortunately our bodies filter or reject most of it.
A touch of rationality does wonders. Allenwoll 00:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
(Hear! Hear! Cynthisa ( talk) 17:45, 13 March 2015 (UTC))
I find it amusing that it has been considered a great step forward in sanitation to pipe sewage away from areas of human population. Now it is considered progess to give sewer water minimal treatment and to irrigate our lawns with it. It has been notoriously difficut to clean this water, especially of those fragments of pathogens which confer drug resistance on other microbes. Before giving it higher treatment and using it for drinking, many more studies, such as those using live fish, are needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notindustry ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
70,000,000 gallons a day water reclaimation plant- purifies water coming from homes and will put it back in with the water supply for people rather than discharge it uncleaned into the ocean. - in orange county.. heard on news. may already be in article. smaller version of same plant already in singapore -- Emesee ( talk) 02:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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reclaimed water used for irrigation of lawns, golf courses etc. rarely receives tertiary treatment and does not get reverse osmosis or microfiltration. In its 2005 annual report, the USDA recognizes that endocrine disrupting chemicals and pathogens, including drug resistant bacteria cannot be removed with present technology, and can pose an environmental and human health threat. Notindustry ( talk) 18:12, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Thought this might be worth adding to the article but I don't have time to do it at the moment: http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/090520-space-urine.html Robogymnast ( talk) 18:06, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
" Reclaimed water planned for use in recharging aquifers or augmenting surface water receives adequate and reliable treatment..." Yes? This may or may not be true.-- Wetman ( talk) 15:10, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I'd like to add some text about a January 2012 National Research Council report about water reuse. You can read more about the report here: http://dels.nas.edu/Report/Water-Reuse-Potential-Expanding/13303
This is the text I'd like to add:
Does this seem OK? I'd welcome any feedback. Thanks, Earlgrey101 ( talk) 23:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
References
I recently came across this Wikipedia article: Environmental persistent pharmaceutical pollutant. The article has some issues and needs some work. Nevertheless, I think it might be relevant to link to it, e.g. under concerns it could be linked in a sentence or provided as "further information". What do you all think about this? EvM-Susana ( talk) 08:47, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
I propose to merge this page with the page on water reclamation. I have also said the same on the other talk page but there have been no responses. As this page here is more detailed I propose to move/merge the content of water reclamation to here and then to have a re-direct from water reclamation to here. What do others think? E.g. Thewellman, Velella EvM-Susana ( talk) 06:29, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
More photos could be added, quite a few are in Wikimedia Commons, just look for keywords like "wastewater reuse", "tertiary treatment", "water reclamation" etc. I have just added one which in my opinion is more suitable than that photo of a manhole cover in California which was there before. EvM-Susana ( talk) 13:31, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
To User:Bio-CLC: I have edited the text that is now under "health aspects (potable use)". However, I am not too sure if this is sufficiently clear: "This would be of much less concern if the population were to keep their excrement out of the wastewater e.g. via the use of the Urine-diverting dry toilet or systems that treat blackwater separately from greywater." - Keeping those streams separate would deal with the pathogen and pharmaceutical residues issue but not with the household chemicals issue: shampoo, soap, detergent etc. would all be in the greywater and could hence also end up in the potable reuse water. - Also, we should cite some high quality sources here. EvM-Susana ( talk) 14:16, 9 July 2015 (UTC) To User:EvM-Susana Good point, but I think we can agree to worry most about pharmaceuticals, since they are specifically designed to affect the human body. The full idea is to keep these wastewater streams separate and send them somewhere they will be useful while staying away from others' drinking water. In particular, I think one of the best options would be process blackwater and then use it again in the same toilets. In this way, the Environmentally Persistent Pharmaceutical Pollutants stay in the system instead of contaminating surface or ground water. If the water is being with biological systems, such as anaerobic digestion, followed by artificial wetlands, I would expect the bacteria to get more and more efficient at breaking down these EPPPs and in the mean time no one has any contact with them. The water would be color-less, smell-free and acceptably free from pathogens, etc., so the users would not even notice the difference, and they already careful to not touch the water in the toilet. (I have searched the internet and asked the Sustainable Sanitation Alliance Forum and have found no cases of such closed-loop recycling of just blackwater.) This would be very important in California with the current, growing drought. Does anyone know who to send the idea to there? Bio-CLC ( talk) 03:19, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I've just realised that there is now an article on wastewater reuse which had a redirect to here but where the redirect was taken out in October 2016. It seems to be totally overlapping with this topic here so I propose to put the redirect back into place and to move anything that is worth saving to the article here. What do people think (for example User:Velella, User:Thewellman)? EMsmile ( talk) 13:40, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
There are a lot of examples in this article. Some are provided in the type of reuse section. And some in a country section. I am wondering if this could be somehow streamlined but am not sure what's better. I am leaning towards putting examples by country, rather than by type of reuse. EMsmile ( talk) 16:12, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Giving you an update about further work I am doing today: After speaking to another Wikipedian, I realised that the article is still too long and drawn out. So I will do some more work on compressing the content. E.g. the examples section is far too long. I will move some examples to other Wikipedia articles where it fits. EMsmile ( talk) 10:43, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Here is a good reference which can be used to pull out some further figures at the global level for wastewater as a resource. I have added it in one place but it could be used more: [1]
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I've just replaced the text for two of the country examples (United States, South Africa) with excerpts from the respective sub-articles. The aim is here to not duplicate content and to only update content in one place, not in two. The same could now be done for the other country examples. However, I wonder how we determine which countries to include here? How many? When does it get tedious? Maybe only those countries that are very active with those wastewater reuse activities. I am also mindful that we shouldn't just think of wealthy countries (Euro and US bias). Then again in developing countries, wastewater reuse takes place too but usually without advanced treatment (or even any form of treatment) and sometimes this causes dangerous side effects (health and pollution). Not sure if this is adequately covered/explained in this article yet. EMsmile ( talk) 04:09, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
I actually wonder about the best title for this topic. Personally, I actually would prefer the article to be called "wastewater reuse" and have "reclaimed water" redirect to there (after merging the content). I think the article on "reclaimed water" is currently in better shape, but the title "wastewater reuse" is possibly more appropriate. "Reclaimed water" for me is a bit a "political term", making it sound nicer than what it is. Opinions? EMsmile ( talk) 22:50, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
I thought more about renaming this to wastewater reuse. But the article also contains some information on reusing stormwater or rainwater harvesting which would then no longer fit. What to do? EMsmile ( talk) 16:12, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
I propose creating created a short section containing basic information about WateReuse. The existing article about WateReuse contains conflicting statements and other flaws, however, WateReuse appears in many citations, and at least 10 Wikipedia articles link to WateReuse. Wikipedia should tell readers what is known about WateReuse, without offering unsupported details. Comfr ( talk) 18:02, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline ( talk) 12:19, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Reclaimed water → Wastewater reuse – I propose to change the title to the more accurate term "wastewater reuse" as per discussion on the talk page. The page "wastewater reuse" is currently a redirect to "reclaimed water" so would have to be deleted first. EMsmile ( talk) 09:04, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
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