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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... it is no different than the page for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Schenkhuizen, for example. Title can (probably should) be changed from gaming name "Reckful" to "Byron Bernstein", if necessary. Professional gamers are growing in importance -- more references will be added. As an example of his place in the gaming community, this player has a YouTube video of PC gaming play with more views than any other professional gamer ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU8pOwuqt3k) -- YouTube link will probably not be included on wikipedia page because it may appear unprofessional. -- Alluredemon ( talk) 23:02, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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he died on 7/2/2020 (today) because he suicided so can you update the page and change all the is to was StarBlazerW ( talk) 16:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
There are already news sites reporting this: https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/twitch-streamer-reckful-reportedly-commits-suicide-1387577 Of course, the source is the tweets from his ex. So far, no one is saying he's still alive though. Cal1gula ( talk) 16:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Newsweek is now reporting his death, though they are still using the "reportedly dead" wording: [1] GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:10, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Forbes is a reliable source, and it has reported his death in an article. The have called his death "confirmed." : [2] 50.83.119.63 ( talk) 18:26, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Forbes.com contributor articles should never be used for third-party claims about living persons.GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
There is consensus that Heavy.com should not be relied upon for any serious or contentious statementsper WP:RSP. —— Serial # 18:37, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Kotaku is now reporting his death without couching it in the "reportedly" wording: [3]. I think this is usable. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Reckfuls twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/reckful has been playing historical videos, and for the past 2 hours the title has been "RIP Reckful - Playing old VODs". So if you're looking for his *own* social media to report it, that's probably about as close as you will get. Cal1gula ( talk) 19:11, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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He's dead as of today. 94.1.69.153 ( talk) 17:04, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
add death date July 2nd 2020 2A02:587:3A19:1935:881:26A6:FE27:E7AA ( talk) 17:15, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
2A01:CB05:8600:3E00:A96A:880D:715A:227A ( talk) 17:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC) “He was a streamer - he is dead the 2th july 2020 - by suicide”:
He has committed suicide, needs to be changed to past tense Hgh19 ( talk) 17:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Reckful passed away on 2020/07/02. Confirmation: https://twitter.com/BlueGoesMew/status/1278714557565767680 https://twitter.com/BlueGoesMew/status/1278721393828327425 https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1278732395756355586 Akoolguy ( talk) 17:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Death 7/2/2020 Suicide Aggrothehorse ( talk) 18:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
change "is" to "was" Qwertzniki6 ( talk) 18:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Reckful has been confirmed dead as of July 2, 2019 2604:3D08:4680:9400:60C9:C78E:D990:441A ( talk) 18:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Reckful has died and the information does not include his death 108.29.131.211 ( talk) 18:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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These sources are all reliable. This is confirmation. Valoem talk contrib 18:38, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
“ | Byron “Reckful” Bernstein has died.
The popular Twitch streamer and profession eSports competitor passed away on Thursday, many close to him have confirmed online, including gaming journalist Rod Breslau. Bernstein’s cause of death has not yet been confirmed but many close to him are suspecting that he may have died by suicide. |
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He is born in L.A and not Tel Aviv, see https://www.twitch.tv/videos/640057509?t=1h02m30s 51.154.8.177 ( talk) 01:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
How is a video of the person himself saying he is born in L.A not a viable source? Are you suggesting that he is lying in that video? |answered=no 51.154.8.177 ( talk) 20:44, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Reopening this as clearly there are outstanding unanswered questions... Why is a video of the person himself stating his own birthday not an acceptable source?
This article states that his death was due to "online shaming" as well as depression. Is there any proof of this? If not, the claim should be removed.
I'm pretty sure the subject's birthdate has been determined by calculating when his older brother passed away. As articles conveyed that the subject was 6 years old when his brother committed suicide. So what can be done in order to remove the tag? as it may end up there forever unless a notable, verified publisher comes along with the actual age. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 22:18, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Apparently Bernstein kept a personal blog as a teenager (between 2004 and 2009) that's still online ( Byron livejournal).
There is one entry from 2004 that confirm his older brother's suicide in 1995 - src. The blog appears to be authentic given the pictures of Bernstein and at least one image credited to Judy Bernstein ( link) (supposedly his mother?)
Didn't want to include this as a reference since I'm still not sure whether it qualifies as a reliable source. Yellowsnes ( talk) 20:23, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Regarding the topic on whether to use the phrase "committed suicide" vs "died by suicide". Mental health organizations recommend using the latter in their guidelines when reporting on suicide. [1] [2]. Yellowsnes ( talk) 11:03, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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Apparently, Blizzard have added a commemorative rogue trainer NPC named Reckful ( pic) to the Cathedral of Light in Stormwind and many publications have picked up on it.
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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... it is no different than the page for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Schenkhuizen, for example. Title can (probably should) be changed from gaming name "Reckful" to "Byron Bernstein", if necessary. Professional gamers are growing in importance -- more references will be added. As an example of his place in the gaming community, this player has a YouTube video of PC gaming play with more views than any other professional gamer ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU8pOwuqt3k) -- YouTube link will probably not be included on wikipedia page because it may appear unprofessional. -- Alluredemon ( talk) 23:02, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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he died on 7/2/2020 (today) because he suicided so can you update the page and change all the is to was StarBlazerW ( talk) 16:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
There are already news sites reporting this: https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/twitch-streamer-reckful-reportedly-commits-suicide-1387577 Of course, the source is the tweets from his ex. So far, no one is saying he's still alive though. Cal1gula ( talk) 16:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Newsweek is now reporting his death, though they are still using the "reportedly dead" wording: [1] GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:10, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Forbes is a reliable source, and it has reported his death in an article. The have called his death "confirmed." : [2] 50.83.119.63 ( talk) 18:26, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Forbes.com contributor articles should never be used for third-party claims about living persons.GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
There is consensus that Heavy.com should not be relied upon for any serious or contentious statementsper WP:RSP. —— Serial # 18:37, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Kotaku is now reporting his death without couching it in the "reportedly" wording: [3]. I think this is usable. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Reckfuls twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/reckful has been playing historical videos, and for the past 2 hours the title has been "RIP Reckful - Playing old VODs". So if you're looking for his *own* social media to report it, that's probably about as close as you will get. Cal1gula ( talk) 19:11, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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He's dead as of today. 94.1.69.153 ( talk) 17:04, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
add death date July 2nd 2020 2A02:587:3A19:1935:881:26A6:FE27:E7AA ( talk) 17:15, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
2A01:CB05:8600:3E00:A96A:880D:715A:227A ( talk) 17:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC) “He was a streamer - he is dead the 2th july 2020 - by suicide”:
He has committed suicide, needs to be changed to past tense Hgh19 ( talk) 17:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Reckful passed away on 2020/07/02. Confirmation: https://twitter.com/BlueGoesMew/status/1278714557565767680 https://twitter.com/BlueGoesMew/status/1278721393828327425 https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1278732395756355586 Akoolguy ( talk) 17:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Death 7/2/2020 Suicide Aggrothehorse ( talk) 18:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
change "is" to "was" Qwertzniki6 ( talk) 18:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Reckful has been confirmed dead as of July 2, 2019 2604:3D08:4680:9400:60C9:C78E:D990:441A ( talk) 18:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Reckful has died and the information does not include his death 108.29.131.211 ( talk) 18:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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These sources are all reliable. This is confirmation. Valoem talk contrib 18:38, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
“ | Byron “Reckful” Bernstein has died.
The popular Twitch streamer and profession eSports competitor passed away on Thursday, many close to him have confirmed online, including gaming journalist Rod Breslau. Bernstein’s cause of death has not yet been confirmed but many close to him are suspecting that he may have died by suicide. |
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He is born in L.A and not Tel Aviv, see https://www.twitch.tv/videos/640057509?t=1h02m30s 51.154.8.177 ( talk) 01:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
How is a video of the person himself saying he is born in L.A not a viable source? Are you suggesting that he is lying in that video? |answered=no 51.154.8.177 ( talk) 20:44, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Reopening this as clearly there are outstanding unanswered questions... Why is a video of the person himself stating his own birthday not an acceptable source?
This article states that his death was due to "online shaming" as well as depression. Is there any proof of this? If not, the claim should be removed.
I'm pretty sure the subject's birthdate has been determined by calculating when his older brother passed away. As articles conveyed that the subject was 6 years old when his brother committed suicide. So what can be done in order to remove the tag? as it may end up there forever unless a notable, verified publisher comes along with the actual age. Delta fiver ( talk) (UTC) 22:18, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Apparently Bernstein kept a personal blog as a teenager (between 2004 and 2009) that's still online ( Byron livejournal).
There is one entry from 2004 that confirm his older brother's suicide in 1995 - src. The blog appears to be authentic given the pictures of Bernstein and at least one image credited to Judy Bernstein ( link) (supposedly his mother?)
Didn't want to include this as a reference since I'm still not sure whether it qualifies as a reliable source. Yellowsnes ( talk) 20:23, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Regarding the topic on whether to use the phrase "committed suicide" vs "died by suicide". Mental health organizations recommend using the latter in their guidelines when reporting on suicide. [1] [2]. Yellowsnes ( talk) 11:03, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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Apparently, Blizzard have added a commemorative rogue trainer NPC named Reckful ( pic) to the Cathedral of Light in Stormwind and many publications have picked up on it.