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This thing comes across like a vanity piece/resume..-- Hooperbloob 05:23, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Maybe just a little but I think the piece is basically OK.-- Mantanmoreland 12:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes, Becky is attractive, but this entry is on the hairy edge of non-notable. If she wasn't co-anchoring Sqwak Box, there's really not much else in Becky's bio that calls for an encyclopedia entry. That's probably a good thing as she has not been involved in any Bartiromoesque scandals. Also she hasn't written any books like Maria or Liz, so it's quite difficult to fill out this entry with anything substantial. Still a fan, but this does raise the question does every other so-far otherwise non-notable news talking head on TV deserve a wikipedia entry? It's a catch-22 that journalists and reporters should be reporting the story, not being a part of it. Wikipedia's not supposed to be a fan site. But Becky will probably succeed Katie Couric as CBS anchor in 2030 or something, so let's watch this entry grow perhaps. This is borderline biography stuff right now. Piperdown 03:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
The text is lifted word for word from the CNBC external link.-- 80.6.163.58 12:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Undisputed in Quick’s Wikipedia entry is that she is “currently married to a Squawk producer.” The source is Gawker.com, dated Jan. 19, 2009, which mentions Quick “recently married” the producer. Gawker.com’s likely source for this information is Richard Johnson’s column of the same date in The New York Post ( http://www.nypost.com/seven/01192009/gossip/pagesix/squawking_season_at_cnbc_150882.htm). Johnson writes that Quick married the producer a few months ago. AND that Quick was previously married to a computer programmer.
The Wikipedia entry also cites a 2006 profile on Quick in The New York Times. In that report, the Times writes that she was married at that time to a computer programmer.
There is also visual published evidence available ( http://www.cedarrun.org/newsletter/Spring03.pdf) identifying Quick with her previous husband. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.6.97.3 ( talk) 16:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
This is the original for that comment by Syrthiss: [3]. The IP editor is naive and did not understand how to proceed, should not have made the edit to the article, but should have proceeded with the discussion only. -- Abd ( talk) 04:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
OK, this is weird. Don't know how I've wandered in here - I don't even know who this woman is - but why is there a problem recording that she has married twice? The NYT citation looks sound for her being married in 2006 to a man who was at the time a computer programmer. It's not unusual for people to divorce and remarry these days. If anything, I'd say there was more doubt about her current hubbie - all the info seems to come from one gossip column source, with other gossip sources over the past six months reporting all sorts of other rubbish about this lady (one alleged she had married Jordanian royalty!!!!!) Just the simple sentence "Rebecca Quick has been married twice. Her current husband is........." with a link to both sources. The first chap doesn't seem to be in any way Wikipedia notable, so guidelines indicate there's no need to say any more. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 11:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Seems reasonable to me. I don't think it need say anything about either husband, unless they suddenly develop notability. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 22:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I can't believe there was all this disruption over this. The source was already there, and being used for the claim that she "lives in Haworth, New Jersey." Forest for the trees. That was a 2006 source, and it has the "computer programmer" info, so, without any synthesis about this, except I specified "husband" as "then-husband," which is a qualification true about all reports of existing fact that might change, and here we have, don't we, some reason to believe that it *has* changed, polyandry being prohibited in most places, especially New Jersey. Because this is so effing obvious, and should have been from the beginning, I've made the change, as a previously uninvolved editor who has no axe to grind on this content, and I wish the best for Rebecca Quick, Peter Shay (my rather obvious guess), and Mquayle. And Keltie, WTF were you doing here? Edit warring to keep a quite simple fact out, claiming no source, when the source was there all along, through all this? Why were you so intensely concerned about this?
I also specified the living in Haworth thing so to restrict it to 2006, since, being married to a producer, who has accessed this article from New York IP belonging to NBC, there is a high probability she no longer lives in Haworth -- but perhaps her parents still live there.
I've added the additional source pointing to the wildlife refuge newsletter. I have no personal problem with the use of the Gawker article for what should be noncontroversial. I did not add the CNBCfix reference because it wasn't needed, but that reference -- tentatively, and I'm not intending to put more time into this -- was as good as the Gawker article. The Gawker information used to be an external link, and perhaps that will be restored.
I added the newsletter because it is as good a source as the gossip column, maybe even better, except as to notability, and because it mirrors that reference. The gossip column mentions the name of Quick's present husband, the newsletter the name of her former husband. With photos to boot. I hope we are done here. Be nice, do good work, and sign your contributions. -- Abd ( talk) 23:21, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) I've put the Cedar Run source back in that Keltie took out with that strange edit summary, although I note that the New York Post ref that Bilby has replaced the Gawker with also makes reference to Quick having been married to a computer programmer before, so the matter may be moot by now. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 16:53, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
On RS/N somebody asked about a newsletter. Now I see the New York Post Page Six column is used as a source. That's not great. Also I see that a blog (Dealbreaker) is used as a source for something else. I've taken it out.- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 22:41, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
(e/c) I'm not sure why that there's all this fuss over an unnecessary reference. In the hope that this will clarify things:
So, in the end, the newsletter is not a reliable source, offers nothing that the article currently needs, and we already have a reliable source covering the relevant material. Given that, there's no reason to include it, and good reasons not to. - Bilby ( talk) 22:45, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I personally don't oppose JohnnyB256 suggestion of excluding all of Quick's martial information on this article. I’m sure Miss Quick and those close to her would actually prefer it that way. At the same time, I don’t oppose having some acceptable information either. But if those close to Quick would rather not have this piece of information included, I would respect their decision and politely abide. Aside from that, as for the other part about my “issue” with this...to put it as very politely as I possibly can, my issue is that I was correct in my reasoning and those of you who oppose me were not, and are stubborn to think otherwise. I had my fair share of being at odds against editors such as this incident. My history log speaks for itself as to the type of edits I make on any article I touch. I am never one to stir controversy or put any defamatory edits in any article here on Wikipedia such as my primary opposition in all of this,162.6.97.3 (really it was 76.114.133.44, the real sockpuppeteer). That is my REAL issue, having to put with up with nonsense like this from irrational editors who no common sense and no decency. I know a lot of other editors, especiallly administrators, would concur with me on my last statement. KeltieMartinFan ( talk) 23:46, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
User:KeltieMartinFan is up to his old tricks trying to strong-arm the content of this article. Sad, isn't it?
76.114.197.43 ( talk) 03:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Unless her "germ phobia" is covered by RS, just having seen her mention it on the tube is the essence of original research. IP, do you watch her 15 hours a week :) ? Seriously, my question is why does this seem so important to you? Why is it so important to include what seems like really non notable personal info on a bio this short and so poorly sourced due to the fact this person is barely notable enough to have a bio in the first place? If folks are coming here to "learn more" about the minutia of this person, they will and should be disappointed. Wikipedia does/should error on the side of draconian interpretation of policy when it comes to BLPs. -- Threeafterthree ( talk) 18:02, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Regarding two of the links in the notes, they still work, but they are being forwarded to the actual URLs (which, of course, might stop working at some point in the future). Suggest that the article be edited so those links point to the actual pages.
Note 2 (and external link): http://www.cnbc.com/becky-quick/ Note 3: http://nypost.com/2009/01/25/fuld-hides-home/ 50.46.202.203 ( talk) 03:58, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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This thing comes across like a vanity piece/resume..-- Hooperbloob 05:23, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Maybe just a little but I think the piece is basically OK.-- Mantanmoreland 12:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Yes, Becky is attractive, but this entry is on the hairy edge of non-notable. If she wasn't co-anchoring Sqwak Box, there's really not much else in Becky's bio that calls for an encyclopedia entry. That's probably a good thing as she has not been involved in any Bartiromoesque scandals. Also she hasn't written any books like Maria or Liz, so it's quite difficult to fill out this entry with anything substantial. Still a fan, but this does raise the question does every other so-far otherwise non-notable news talking head on TV deserve a wikipedia entry? It's a catch-22 that journalists and reporters should be reporting the story, not being a part of it. Wikipedia's not supposed to be a fan site. But Becky will probably succeed Katie Couric as CBS anchor in 2030 or something, so let's watch this entry grow perhaps. This is borderline biography stuff right now. Piperdown 03:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
The text is lifted word for word from the CNBC external link.-- 80.6.163.58 12:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Undisputed in Quick’s Wikipedia entry is that she is “currently married to a Squawk producer.” The source is Gawker.com, dated Jan. 19, 2009, which mentions Quick “recently married” the producer. Gawker.com’s likely source for this information is Richard Johnson’s column of the same date in The New York Post ( http://www.nypost.com/seven/01192009/gossip/pagesix/squawking_season_at_cnbc_150882.htm). Johnson writes that Quick married the producer a few months ago. AND that Quick was previously married to a computer programmer.
The Wikipedia entry also cites a 2006 profile on Quick in The New York Times. In that report, the Times writes that she was married at that time to a computer programmer.
There is also visual published evidence available ( http://www.cedarrun.org/newsletter/Spring03.pdf) identifying Quick with her previous husband. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.6.97.3 ( talk) 16:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
This is the original for that comment by Syrthiss: [3]. The IP editor is naive and did not understand how to proceed, should not have made the edit to the article, but should have proceeded with the discussion only. -- Abd ( talk) 04:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
OK, this is weird. Don't know how I've wandered in here - I don't even know who this woman is - but why is there a problem recording that she has married twice? The NYT citation looks sound for her being married in 2006 to a man who was at the time a computer programmer. It's not unusual for people to divorce and remarry these days. If anything, I'd say there was more doubt about her current hubbie - all the info seems to come from one gossip column source, with other gossip sources over the past six months reporting all sorts of other rubbish about this lady (one alleged she had married Jordanian royalty!!!!!) Just the simple sentence "Rebecca Quick has been married twice. Her current husband is........." with a link to both sources. The first chap doesn't seem to be in any way Wikipedia notable, so guidelines indicate there's no need to say any more. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 11:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Seems reasonable to me. I don't think it need say anything about either husband, unless they suddenly develop notability. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 22:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I can't believe there was all this disruption over this. The source was already there, and being used for the claim that she "lives in Haworth, New Jersey." Forest for the trees. That was a 2006 source, and it has the "computer programmer" info, so, without any synthesis about this, except I specified "husband" as "then-husband," which is a qualification true about all reports of existing fact that might change, and here we have, don't we, some reason to believe that it *has* changed, polyandry being prohibited in most places, especially New Jersey. Because this is so effing obvious, and should have been from the beginning, I've made the change, as a previously uninvolved editor who has no axe to grind on this content, and I wish the best for Rebecca Quick, Peter Shay (my rather obvious guess), and Mquayle. And Keltie, WTF were you doing here? Edit warring to keep a quite simple fact out, claiming no source, when the source was there all along, through all this? Why were you so intensely concerned about this?
I also specified the living in Haworth thing so to restrict it to 2006, since, being married to a producer, who has accessed this article from New York IP belonging to NBC, there is a high probability she no longer lives in Haworth -- but perhaps her parents still live there.
I've added the additional source pointing to the wildlife refuge newsletter. I have no personal problem with the use of the Gawker article for what should be noncontroversial. I did not add the CNBCfix reference because it wasn't needed, but that reference -- tentatively, and I'm not intending to put more time into this -- was as good as the Gawker article. The Gawker information used to be an external link, and perhaps that will be restored.
I added the newsletter because it is as good a source as the gossip column, maybe even better, except as to notability, and because it mirrors that reference. The gossip column mentions the name of Quick's present husband, the newsletter the name of her former husband. With photos to boot. I hope we are done here. Be nice, do good work, and sign your contributions. -- Abd ( talk) 23:21, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) I've put the Cedar Run source back in that Keltie took out with that strange edit summary, although I note that the New York Post ref that Bilby has replaced the Gawker with also makes reference to Quick having been married to a computer programmer before, so the matter may be moot by now. Elen of the Roads ( talk) 16:53, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
On RS/N somebody asked about a newsletter. Now I see the New York Post Page Six column is used as a source. That's not great. Also I see that a blog (Dealbreaker) is used as a source for something else. I've taken it out.- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 22:41, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
(e/c) I'm not sure why that there's all this fuss over an unnecessary reference. In the hope that this will clarify things:
So, in the end, the newsletter is not a reliable source, offers nothing that the article currently needs, and we already have a reliable source covering the relevant material. Given that, there's no reason to include it, and good reasons not to. - Bilby ( talk) 22:45, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I personally don't oppose JohnnyB256 suggestion of excluding all of Quick's martial information on this article. I’m sure Miss Quick and those close to her would actually prefer it that way. At the same time, I don’t oppose having some acceptable information either. But if those close to Quick would rather not have this piece of information included, I would respect their decision and politely abide. Aside from that, as for the other part about my “issue” with this...to put it as very politely as I possibly can, my issue is that I was correct in my reasoning and those of you who oppose me were not, and are stubborn to think otherwise. I had my fair share of being at odds against editors such as this incident. My history log speaks for itself as to the type of edits I make on any article I touch. I am never one to stir controversy or put any defamatory edits in any article here on Wikipedia such as my primary opposition in all of this,162.6.97.3 (really it was 76.114.133.44, the real sockpuppeteer). That is my REAL issue, having to put with up with nonsense like this from irrational editors who no common sense and no decency. I know a lot of other editors, especiallly administrators, would concur with me on my last statement. KeltieMartinFan ( talk) 23:46, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
User:KeltieMartinFan is up to his old tricks trying to strong-arm the content of this article. Sad, isn't it?
76.114.197.43 ( talk) 03:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Unless her "germ phobia" is covered by RS, just having seen her mention it on the tube is the essence of original research. IP, do you watch her 15 hours a week :) ? Seriously, my question is why does this seem so important to you? Why is it so important to include what seems like really non notable personal info on a bio this short and so poorly sourced due to the fact this person is barely notable enough to have a bio in the first place? If folks are coming here to "learn more" about the minutia of this person, they will and should be disappointed. Wikipedia does/should error on the side of draconian interpretation of policy when it comes to BLPs. -- Threeafterthree ( talk) 18:02, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Regarding two of the links in the notes, they still work, but they are being forwarded to the actual URLs (which, of course, might stop working at some point in the future). Suggest that the article be edited so those links point to the actual pages.
Note 2 (and external link): http://www.cnbc.com/becky-quick/ Note 3: http://nypost.com/2009/01/25/fuld-hides-home/ 50.46.202.203 ( talk) 03:58, 31 October 2015 (UTC)