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Didn't have much time to consider reversing my delete vote, but in light of the significant growth and improvement, I would have done so. Nice work at saving the article properly. ThuranX ( talk) 17:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Could somebody add this information to the section "Release and promotion"? I'd do it by myself but I'm not a native and my written English is not good enough for that. Thank you. 83.45.124.24 ( talk) 03:53, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Peak #11 http://argentinatop100.com.ar/top20albumes/2009/2211-2811/ -> CAPIF's Top 20 archived by ArgentinaTop100.com.ar —Preceding unsigned comment added by HC 5555 ( talk • contribs) 13:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
PopMatters is used on may Wikipedia pages!! see Wikipedia:Albums at the review section and PLEASE STOP DELETING THEM!! (MariAna Mimi 18:03, 16 December 2009 (UTC))
I have restored the review from The Independent after it was inappropriately deleted again. The reviews table is no longer required to go into the article infobox, and therefore there is no longer a restriction on how many reviews can go in it. Including all respected, mainstream publication reviews in the table is beneficial to readers who may want a quick analysis of an album's critical reception but may not want to read the entire section dedicated to reviews. As discussed before, The Independent is a highly respected British broadsheet newspaper, and its inclusion is far more warranted than some of the other reviews in the section. 80.47.81.18 ( talk) 05:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I've removed the sales totals for the UK as the sources were either out of date (Billboard) or inappropriate (an online fan forum). Furthermore, even though I know the album has certainly sold more than 300,000 copies in the UK, it has not yet actually been certified as Platinum. Certifications in the UK are not automatic and record companies have to pay for them before they are made. The BPI has no listing for the album as yet so listing the certification in the article is a little premature. 80.47.165.203 ( talk) 06:06, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Full performing, writing and production credits available here, including some corrections to what's currently in the article. Bondegezou ( talk) 12:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Here you can find the official sales numbers & certifications provided by IFPI as of December 2009. Please take a look before changing numbers at the table; unless there is a reliable source for the sales in a certain country do not change the numbers in the table. Also take a look at Wikipedia:BADCHARTS to see which sources should not be used as refernces before adding them. Thank you. MariAna_MiMi ( Talk) 21:06, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Also, if someone could find reliable sources to be added to the certifications table that would be really great! The album charted high in the Netherlands, Italy (where it was cerified Platinum???), Spain, Norway. But please make sure that the sources are reliable and according to Wikipedia rules. Thanx! :) MariAna_MiMi ( Talk) 22:13, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
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Hi MariAna_MiMi, I think this is a pretty well-written article, a vast improvement over the original version submitted for GA in May. I have identified a handful of problems that need addressing before I can promote to GA - these are detailed below.
{{cite album-notes|title=|albumlink=|bandname=|year=|notestitle=|url=|first=|last=|page=|format=|publisher=|publisherid=|location=}}
Thanks for addressing most of my concerns MariAna. There are still a few issues remaining which I've detailed below for ease of reference. Cavie78 ( talk) 16:36, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
“ | Mikael Wood from Spin gave the album a 7/10 rating. He said that the album includes "cowbell-enhanced rave-up, a bit of Lady Gaga–ish electro-pop, and one track named after Transformers" and went on to call the record "a charm offensive with stars and stripes". | ” |
But you could easily put much of this in your own words:
“ | Slant Magazine music critic Jonathan Keefe gave the album a mixed review, rating it with two and a half stars (out of five) and talked about Williams' success in the United States: "Williams has never approached the same degree of success in the United States as he has enjoyed on the international scene, where he is a bona fide superstar." Keefe felt that "the songs here too often return to the heavy balladry and slick adult-pop of Williams's earlier recordings that did not find favor with American audiences." He concluded the review by saying that "By downplaying Williams's formerly irrepressible charm, Reality simply doesn't make for an effective reintroduction to one of the U.S. pop market's biggest missed opportunities." | ” |
I would suggest something like:
“ | Slant Magazine music critic Jonathan Keefe gave the album a mixed review, rating it with two and a half stars (out of five) and talked about Williams' lack of success in the United States, calling him "one of the U.S. pop market's biggest missed opportunities". Keefe felt that the album featured the sort of "heavy balladry and slick adult-pop" that made Williams' earlier records unappealing to American audiences and suggested that by "downplaying [his] formerly irrepressible charm", Reality... doesn't do enough to reintroduce the singer to the U.S." | ” |
Done
“ | The singer appeared on The X Factor on October 11, 2009 to perform live. He was featured on the November 2009 cover of GQ UK. | ” |
Why is this important? You say nothing about the content of, what I presume was an interview in GQ. What song/s did he perform on the X Factor? Was this actually promotion for the album?
GQ interview page 4, he talks about the album. Should I add the interview to the external links section perhaps?
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Didn't have much time to consider reversing my delete vote, but in light of the significant growth and improvement, I would have done so. Nice work at saving the article properly. ThuranX ( talk) 17:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Could somebody add this information to the section "Release and promotion"? I'd do it by myself but I'm not a native and my written English is not good enough for that. Thank you. 83.45.124.24 ( talk) 03:53, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Peak #11 http://argentinatop100.com.ar/top20albumes/2009/2211-2811/ -> CAPIF's Top 20 archived by ArgentinaTop100.com.ar —Preceding unsigned comment added by HC 5555 ( talk • contribs) 13:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
PopMatters is used on may Wikipedia pages!! see Wikipedia:Albums at the review section and PLEASE STOP DELETING THEM!! (MariAna Mimi 18:03, 16 December 2009 (UTC))
I have restored the review from The Independent after it was inappropriately deleted again. The reviews table is no longer required to go into the article infobox, and therefore there is no longer a restriction on how many reviews can go in it. Including all respected, mainstream publication reviews in the table is beneficial to readers who may want a quick analysis of an album's critical reception but may not want to read the entire section dedicated to reviews. As discussed before, The Independent is a highly respected British broadsheet newspaper, and its inclusion is far more warranted than some of the other reviews in the section. 80.47.81.18 ( talk) 05:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I've removed the sales totals for the UK as the sources were either out of date (Billboard) or inappropriate (an online fan forum). Furthermore, even though I know the album has certainly sold more than 300,000 copies in the UK, it has not yet actually been certified as Platinum. Certifications in the UK are not automatic and record companies have to pay for them before they are made. The BPI has no listing for the album as yet so listing the certification in the article is a little premature. 80.47.165.203 ( talk) 06:06, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Full performing, writing and production credits available here, including some corrections to what's currently in the article. Bondegezou ( talk) 12:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Here you can find the official sales numbers & certifications provided by IFPI as of December 2009. Please take a look before changing numbers at the table; unless there is a reliable source for the sales in a certain country do not change the numbers in the table. Also take a look at Wikipedia:BADCHARTS to see which sources should not be used as refernces before adding them. Thank you. MariAna_MiMi ( Talk) 21:06, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Also, if someone could find reliable sources to be added to the certifications table that would be really great! The album charted high in the Netherlands, Italy (where it was cerified Platinum???), Spain, Norway. But please make sure that the sources are reliable and according to Wikipedia rules. Thanx! :) MariAna_MiMi ( Talk) 22:13, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
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Hi MariAna_MiMi, I think this is a pretty well-written article, a vast improvement over the original version submitted for GA in May. I have identified a handful of problems that need addressing before I can promote to GA - these are detailed below.
{{cite album-notes|title=|albumlink=|bandname=|year=|notestitle=|url=|first=|last=|page=|format=|publisher=|publisherid=|location=}}
Thanks for addressing most of my concerns MariAna. There are still a few issues remaining which I've detailed below for ease of reference. Cavie78 ( talk) 16:36, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
“ | Mikael Wood from Spin gave the album a 7/10 rating. He said that the album includes "cowbell-enhanced rave-up, a bit of Lady Gaga–ish electro-pop, and one track named after Transformers" and went on to call the record "a charm offensive with stars and stripes". | ” |
But you could easily put much of this in your own words:
“ | Slant Magazine music critic Jonathan Keefe gave the album a mixed review, rating it with two and a half stars (out of five) and talked about Williams' success in the United States: "Williams has never approached the same degree of success in the United States as he has enjoyed on the international scene, where he is a bona fide superstar." Keefe felt that "the songs here too often return to the heavy balladry and slick adult-pop of Williams's earlier recordings that did not find favor with American audiences." He concluded the review by saying that "By downplaying Williams's formerly irrepressible charm, Reality simply doesn't make for an effective reintroduction to one of the U.S. pop market's biggest missed opportunities." | ” |
I would suggest something like:
“ | Slant Magazine music critic Jonathan Keefe gave the album a mixed review, rating it with two and a half stars (out of five) and talked about Williams' lack of success in the United States, calling him "one of the U.S. pop market's biggest missed opportunities". Keefe felt that the album featured the sort of "heavy balladry and slick adult-pop" that made Williams' earlier records unappealing to American audiences and suggested that by "downplaying [his] formerly irrepressible charm", Reality... doesn't do enough to reintroduce the singer to the U.S." | ” |
Done
“ | The singer appeared on The X Factor on October 11, 2009 to perform live. He was featured on the November 2009 cover of GQ UK. | ” |
Why is this important? You say nothing about the content of, what I presume was an interview in GQ. What song/s did he perform on the X Factor? Was this actually promotion for the album?
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