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This page and others are littered with sentences stated as fact, while they come from a single source that runs contrary to consensus half the time: the very unknown Bernard Hamilton.
It seems that someone is trying to push their religio-poltiical views. Why don't the mods do anything? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.135.54 ( talk) 04:48, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
@ Freegils: thank you for your contribution. I reverted your edit first of all, because it was poorly formatted. Please use the Preview bottom before saving your edits. Secondly, the text contradicts other authors cited in the article (for instance, compare the versions about Raynald's raid in Cyprus). Thirdly, I assume some of your text are copied verbatim from the cited source which is not allowed. Please suggests your proposed edits here. Borsoka ( talk) 05:37, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Saladin executed him for his raids on caravans, a serious crime in any country and not a deed acceptable under the laws of Christian societies. Captured with Raynald de Chatillon was Guy de Lusignan, simply a prisoner of war. Saladin treated Guy de Lusignan with great mercy in no way contingent of abandoning Christianity in favor of Islam. Guy de Lusignan had done nothing really wrong. Guy de Lusignan was released after watching the (probably rightful) execution of Reynald de Chatillon without being pressured to convert to Islam.
Saladin had a reputation of justice in the Christian world, part of which originated in this incident. Caravan raiders are essentially pirates of the "sea of sand". Like all leaders of Christian or Muslim polities alike in that time, Saladin had no tolerance for murder and robbery and used the death penalty against such a crime.
I thus will strike him as a martyr of faith. Pbrower2a ( talk) 13:32, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
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This page and others are littered with sentences stated as fact, while they come from a single source that runs contrary to consensus half the time: the very unknown Bernard Hamilton.
It seems that someone is trying to push their religio-poltiical views. Why don't the mods do anything? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.135.54 ( talk) 04:48, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
@ Freegils: thank you for your contribution. I reverted your edit first of all, because it was poorly formatted. Please use the Preview bottom before saving your edits. Secondly, the text contradicts other authors cited in the article (for instance, compare the versions about Raynald's raid in Cyprus). Thirdly, I assume some of your text are copied verbatim from the cited source which is not allowed. Please suggests your proposed edits here. Borsoka ( talk) 05:37, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Saladin executed him for his raids on caravans, a serious crime in any country and not a deed acceptable under the laws of Christian societies. Captured with Raynald de Chatillon was Guy de Lusignan, simply a prisoner of war. Saladin treated Guy de Lusignan with great mercy in no way contingent of abandoning Christianity in favor of Islam. Guy de Lusignan had done nothing really wrong. Guy de Lusignan was released after watching the (probably rightful) execution of Reynald de Chatillon without being pressured to convert to Islam.
Saladin had a reputation of justice in the Christian world, part of which originated in this incident. Caravan raiders are essentially pirates of the "sea of sand". Like all leaders of Christian or Muslim polities alike in that time, Saladin had no tolerance for murder and robbery and used the death penalty against such a crime.
I thus will strike him as a martyr of faith. Pbrower2a ( talk) 13:32, 2 January 2023 (UTC)