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International release date early March, but February 22 for Japan? That was a Sunday. Are albums sometimes released on Sundays in Japan? Seems odd.
— Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 09:55, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Comment: In Spanish Wikipedia; there are a lot information in legacy section. Chrishonduras ( talk) 05:20, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
This album's certificate sales around 13 million. I think 16 million sales are so low figure for 13 million certificate sales. And there is so many reliable sources for 20 million. What do you think? I think this album already sold 20 million... 16 million it doesn't make sense
Sources;
— Navyiconer ( talk) 16:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Yes i said around 13 million so i mean 12,650 million certificate sales. Yeah that's okay BBC link is unreliable. — Navyiconer ( talk) 16:38, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm totally agree with Navyiconer. ray of light has sold 20 million 20 million sources looks more reliable than 16 million sources — Rebelheartmetehan ( talk) 21:47, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
What's your point? I don't get it. — Rebelheartmetehan ( talk) 00:07, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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User:Jeremiah has continuously reverted content from the article's lead section calling them unsourced. I had reverted him saying that WP:LEAD it does not require source if its mentioned in the article body, but the user chose to ignore it. Let's explain each and every one of those lines and show the sources.
So Jeremiah, which part exactly do you see as unsourced? Note I pulled all the sources from the article's Legacy section only — IB [ Poke ] 11:08, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Because the lead will usually repeat information [...], editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material"
I will not discuss this in this section. The title is clearly baiting. This user is a child. I have begun a new section at the bottom of the page. Grow up. Jeremiah ( talk· cont) 11:33, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Critics and scholars have noted the album's influence on
popular music, especially how it widely introduced electronica music into mainstream pop culture. They have also noted the way in which Madonna was able to re-invent herself and remain contemporary among the teenage artists of the period. Ray of Light has been frequently ranked among the greatest albums of all time. --> Academics have noted the album's influence on
popular music, and how it introduced electronica into mainstream pop culture. They also noted Madonna's musical re-invention with the album, which helped her remain contemporary among the teenage artists of the period. Ray of Light has been ranked among lists of greatest albums of all time.
How does this look @
Jeremiah: and @
Samtar:? —
IB [
Poke ] 11:57, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Madonna's musical re-invention(which would be an awesome tribute act name) -- samtar talk or stalk 12:36, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
I have been attempting to reduce the appearance of bias in the lead by removing and requesting early references. The previous lead contains claims that appear to fall under WP:FANCRUFT. To avoid such accusations I suggest adding references to these specific claims or using more subdued language to make the lead appear more neutral. references may not be *required* in the lead but they certainly will help allay concerns of editorial bias. Jeremiah ( talk· cont) 11:30, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
In the section " Suggest a rephrase" both IndianBio and Jeremiah agreed to the alteration of the lead. I would welcome any other interested editors to provide their comments below, so that a consensus can be made and this discussion closed. My thanks to IB for boldly closing the discussion earlier, however I agree with Binksternet that you are too involved. I propose keeping this discussion open for a couple more days -- samtar talk or stalk 12:40, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
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Ray of Light reached platinum status in Belgium. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 05:39, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
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In this entire article, Curtis Maldoon's "Sepheryn" isn't mentioned once. It's the 1971 song that "Ray of Light" was based on. The songwriters are credited, but that's it. 70.77.106.11 ( talk) 21:12, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
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International release date early March, but February 22 for Japan? That was a Sunday. Are albums sometimes released on Sundays in Japan? Seems odd.
— Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 09:55, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Comment: In Spanish Wikipedia; there are a lot information in legacy section. Chrishonduras ( talk) 05:20, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
This album's certificate sales around 13 million. I think 16 million sales are so low figure for 13 million certificate sales. And there is so many reliable sources for 20 million. What do you think? I think this album already sold 20 million... 16 million it doesn't make sense
Sources;
— Navyiconer ( talk) 16:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Yes i said around 13 million so i mean 12,650 million certificate sales. Yeah that's okay BBC link is unreliable. — Navyiconer ( talk) 16:38, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm totally agree with Navyiconer. ray of light has sold 20 million 20 million sources looks more reliable than 16 million sources — Rebelheartmetehan ( talk) 21:47, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
What's your point? I don't get it. — Rebelheartmetehan ( talk) 00:07, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
User:Jeremiah has continuously reverted content from the article's lead section calling them unsourced. I had reverted him saying that WP:LEAD it does not require source if its mentioned in the article body, but the user chose to ignore it. Let's explain each and every one of those lines and show the sources.
So Jeremiah, which part exactly do you see as unsourced? Note I pulled all the sources from the article's Legacy section only — IB [ Poke ] 11:08, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Because the lead will usually repeat information [...], editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material"
I will not discuss this in this section. The title is clearly baiting. This user is a child. I have begun a new section at the bottom of the page. Grow up. Jeremiah ( talk· cont) 11:33, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Critics and scholars have noted the album's influence on
popular music, especially how it widely introduced electronica music into mainstream pop culture. They have also noted the way in which Madonna was able to re-invent herself and remain contemporary among the teenage artists of the period. Ray of Light has been frequently ranked among the greatest albums of all time. --> Academics have noted the album's influence on
popular music, and how it introduced electronica into mainstream pop culture. They also noted Madonna's musical re-invention with the album, which helped her remain contemporary among the teenage artists of the period. Ray of Light has been ranked among lists of greatest albums of all time.
How does this look @
Jeremiah: and @
Samtar:? —
IB [
Poke ] 11:57, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Madonna's musical re-invention(which would be an awesome tribute act name) -- samtar talk or stalk 12:36, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
I have been attempting to reduce the appearance of bias in the lead by removing and requesting early references. The previous lead contains claims that appear to fall under WP:FANCRUFT. To avoid such accusations I suggest adding references to these specific claims or using more subdued language to make the lead appear more neutral. references may not be *required* in the lead but they certainly will help allay concerns of editorial bias. Jeremiah ( talk· cont) 11:30, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
In the section " Suggest a rephrase" both IndianBio and Jeremiah agreed to the alteration of the lead. I would welcome any other interested editors to provide their comments below, so that a consensus can be made and this discussion closed. My thanks to IB for boldly closing the discussion earlier, however I agree with Binksternet that you are too involved. I propose keeping this discussion open for a couple more days -- samtar talk or stalk 12:40, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
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