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Are you sure this guy is still alive? I haven't heard his name mentioned for some years, which is very odd considering the extent of his crimes and the ongoing tribunal. One would expect some sort of witchhunt to be still in operation. 86.42.90.145 ( talk) 00:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, he is alive. He has been convicted and served his sentence from matters arising about the tribunal, an interim report was issued. Keeping his head down, I suppose
Tzq99 ( talk) 19:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
From the Flood report, [1]:
I think its pretty clear from the above about Ray Burke. Snappy ( talk) 09:12, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
I dont want to edit war over this, but the line about Burke's pension's value is inappropriate. Articles can usefully have information about a someone's personal income for some appropriate year (the most recent year, say, or the year they were at the peak of their fame and fortune) or about their net worth; but information about the actuarial present value of their pension is too obscure to be useful, and is likely to mislead or confuse many readers. The source newspaper article seems to be making two points:
Using the actuarial present value is a nice way for a journalist to make those points; "$3m" is obviously more sensational than "$103k per year" simply because the number is bigger. But point #1 belongs, if anywhere, in a "Remuneration" section of Government of Ireland, not in a bio article about a particular minister. And point #2, if made at all, should be made directly (e.g. "After his disgrace, there were calls for Burke to [turn down / be stripped of] his ministerial pension") rather than by insinuation. jnestorius( talk) 15:55, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
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Are you sure this guy is still alive? I haven't heard his name mentioned for some years, which is very odd considering the extent of his crimes and the ongoing tribunal. One would expect some sort of witchhunt to be still in operation. 86.42.90.145 ( talk) 00:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, he is alive. He has been convicted and served his sentence from matters arising about the tribunal, an interim report was issued. Keeping his head down, I suppose
Tzq99 ( talk) 19:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
From the Flood report, [1]:
I think its pretty clear from the above about Ray Burke. Snappy ( talk) 09:12, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
I dont want to edit war over this, but the line about Burke's pension's value is inappropriate. Articles can usefully have information about a someone's personal income for some appropriate year (the most recent year, say, or the year they were at the peak of their fame and fortune) or about their net worth; but information about the actuarial present value of their pension is too obscure to be useful, and is likely to mislead or confuse many readers. The source newspaper article seems to be making two points:
Using the actuarial present value is a nice way for a journalist to make those points; "$3m" is obviously more sensational than "$103k per year" simply because the number is bigger. But point #1 belongs, if anywhere, in a "Remuneration" section of Government of Ireland, not in a bio article about a particular minister. And point #2, if made at all, should be made directly (e.g. "After his disgrace, there were calls for Burke to [turn down / be stripped of] his ministerial pension") rather than by insinuation. jnestorius( talk) 15:55, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
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