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-- C. A. Russell ( talk) 01:00, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Please correct the wrong link at "RiscOS", thanks. 194.3.247.8 ( talk) 18:56, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Nothing I can find on wikipedia mentions the known problems with the USB hardware on the Raspberry Pi SoC chip. Please include details of this problem so that others like myself do not feel burned by purchasing something that does not live up to expectations. Details are available at: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/08/24/2228251/serious-problems-with-usb-and-ethernet-on-the-raspberry-pi http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39175 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.95.141.46 ( talk) 10:15, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Are you suggesting that a link to the organization's own forum where people actively working on the problems are discussing it is not reliable??? — Preceding
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If you bothered to read the thread I linked, you might notice it is 6 pages of posts from a large number of people in a locked thread. Several of the people work for the organization and this can be verified.
So, the article will be edited to include at the very least the info from Guy Macon's links above? Or are you too busy treating me like a child to bot her? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.95.141.46 ( talk • contribs) 22:00, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi everyone. I am new to wikipedia edit protection system, which I find very appropriate btw. I would simply like to add my RaspberryPI distro project on the page. It is called pipaOS and you can visit it here: http://pipaos.mitako.eu. I think the "Multi-purpose light distributions" section would be appropiate. Thanks in advance. Albert Skarbat ( talk) 10:25, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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The opening paragraph says that: The Foundation's goal is to offer two versions, priced at US$25 and US$35.
This is obsolete, both models are offered. I would suggest the page is edited to: "The Foundation offers two versions, priced at US$25 and US$35" Arthurs ( talk) 19:58, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
It should be more clear and easier to understand that the device is useless without the BLOB by broadcom, because it can't boot without. At the moment this is not clear for an audience without much knowledge about the problem, like students and kids who make their first "steps" with the RaspPi in school.
I don't know how to do it, because "Driver API" might not be the right place. So a separate section which explains the problem would be better (IMHO).
80.187.109.172 ( talk) 00:52, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be numerous and consistent reports that the audio of the first batch of Raspberry Pi boards produce numerous clicks and popping. There are a number of work-a-rounds on the web, a patch that results in some buzzing instead of "clicks", and even a kickstarter project that is a dongle that plugs into the board for an attempt at better audio. I wanted to get other's views and inputs on this before I add a new section to the article. In fact, I originally came to this article looking for information concerning this apparent problem with the boards. Here is a video of apparently loud clicking coming through, Perhaps the section could go into how audio is generated on the Rapsberry Pi (i.e. via the PWMs) Nodekeeper ( talk) 09:43, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv According to other sources the Pi doesn't fulfill the FSF free hardware critera. Maybe that should be included in the article (or at least be included when it will be). I'm not sure the above link shows any indication that they are making any progress on that (maybe not intented to?). But there seems to be some progress in "freeing" (parts of?) the GPU binary blob (bootloader/firmware?). I haven't waded throught this all open source project but there might be something to report from there. comp.arch ( talk) 10:35, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Should a note be placed in the article to state that there will be no new version of the RaspberryPi until September 2015 at the earliest? See http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=56598 "Eben Upton, Founder, has stated in public that he would expect a NEW board between two and three years from now (Sept 2013)." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.64.3.2 ( talk) 04:26, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
It should be noted that android has no working (or rather working well) builds. I don't believe Broadcom ever released the 4.0 image for it either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.1.167 ( talk) 01:17, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Is it completly open hardware or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.78.74.104 ( talk) 03:34, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Citation 36 is a dead link (I have no idea where to put this.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.1.178.45 ( talk) 20:50, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Image1 Source1, Image2 Source2, Image3 Source3. As an aside, look what you can do with a board that small. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 00:35, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
I take issue with it being described as credit-card sized on the basis that even if it's x and y dimensions were that of a credit card, it's z dimension isn't anywhere near that size. Wallet-sized might be a better description, or perhaps simply rephrasing it to "about the length and width of credit card." Better yet, just list it's actual dimensions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.20.43.154 ( talk) 23:34, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
It's actually about the size of a packet of cigarettes or tampons. It is about the size of 15 credit cards. Greglocock ( talk) 01:36, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
...and to be honest, is its size the most important fact about it, such that it should be in the first line of the lede? Greglocock ( talk) 01:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
It's not about the size in millimeters, or the thickness. That's all nonsense, its to give people a mental picture of the relative size of the device, much tinier than previous computers. And at launch time it was big enough a deal that almost all media cared to mention its size which was most easily compared to a credit card, and in fact a credit card was used as inspiration for how big it should be. Obviously, especially with parts sticking out, its not exactly to the mm precisely as big as a credit card, and nobody expects when you say "its credit card sized" next to a picture of it that is only a few mm high, but people can get a much better idea how big it is based on a mental impression of the size of a credit card. It's size was and still is one of the distinguishing features of the raspberry PI. Mahjongg ( talk) 10:54, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
With the recent release of the Raspberry Pi Compute module - it is now available in a smaller size - using the DDR2 SO-DIMM form factor. Regards, Lynbarn ( talk) 09:23, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
The lede states: The Raspberry Pi is manufactured in two board configurations through licensed manufacturing deals with Newark element14 (Premier Farnell), RS Components and Egoman. Is this actually the case? my understanding is that manufacture is by Sony at their Welsh plant, on behalf of the Raspberry Pi Foundation, and these are distributed world-wide (except China) by Farnell and RS. Ergoman manufacture for the China?Taiwan market alone. If this is confirmed, I think it should be made clearer. Regards, Lynbarn ( talk) 19:22, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
We need a clear new section, with explanation and diagrams to show the differences between versions A, B and B+. What will the next one be called? B++ or C- ?
Lehasa ( talk) 17:11, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
My Raspberry Pi rev. B has a HRNG I do not see mentioned in the article. See: http://scruss.com/blog/2013/06/07/well-that-was-unexpected-the-raspberry-pis-hardware-random-number-generator/ I agree with the author of https://sites.google.com/site/astudyofentropy/project-definition/raspberry-pi-internal-hardware-random-number-generator that this makes the RPi a great (and very cheap) source for obtaining cryptographic quality random numbers. I would have inserted this information but I cannot decide where. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N-double-u ( talk • contribs) 10:39, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Broadcom is not the only provider for the core chip. I read a Samsung K4P4G324EQ-RGC2 on my newly bought Pi B+. The B+ used as illustration seems also to be carrying a Samsung chip. The multifunction chip near USB ports is an SMSC LAN9514-JZX. Perhaps some "BOM guru" could enlighten us on hardware details as seen on the B+.
I came to this article because I want to learn about RaspberryP Pi, but the article is difficult to read because of over-referencing. The opening line "Raspberry Pi is a credit-card-sized single-board computer developed in the UK by the Raspberry Pi Foundation with the intention of promoting the teaching of basic computer science in schools" does not need five references. This is out out of line with WP:LEAD and with WP:REFBLOAT. Not only is there severe reference overkill, but their use contradicts WP:NOTREPOSITORY and WP:NOTMANUAL. I suggest these guidelines be used to make this article more readable. There are 88 references which point into www.raspberrypi.org which goes against WP:USEPRIMARY. -- Cornellier ( talk) 17:18, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately this change remove a lot of content as well, leaving some sections somewhat garbled. 80.4.146.162 ( talk) 13:17, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix seems to appear twice in the OS list
1. Pidora; and
2. Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix
is this an error or are there two different Fedora variants that should be listed discretely, but adjacent? -- Elmeter ( talk) 19:53, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
This product is just a different version of the Raspberry Pi. - Mr X 13:38, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
I think we're getting a consensus here. I'll redir & ask for User:Kinianox's edit to be merged in for attribution. Bazj ( talk) 17:28, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Done & histmerge requested.
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Big new release. Model B+ is 6x faster (900Mhz, quad-core and 1Gb ram). http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/2/7954617/raspberry-pi-2-announced-on-sale - MarsRover ( talk) 11:41, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
I added 2nd infobox subset dedicated to new RPi2 to make it easier to understand, because packing too much in ONE infobox is very confusing. I have used this method in other articles, such as Keystone Pipeline, and I've seen it used in some other articles. Some fields won't exist in the 2nd infobox (i.e. logo). I haven't removed the RPi2 info from the 1st infobox yet, just in case everyone threw rocks at the 2nd infobox. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 00:18, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Last night, I made this edit (plus two smaller clarifying edits to the same paragraph right afterward), and User:Sbmeirow reverted it only six minutes later, including restoring a factually incorrect statement that I'd corrected. This is what I wrote:
References
This is what Sbmeirow reverted it to:
My version was superior in the following ways:
It was inferior in the following ways:
I knew at the time that it was long, and I expected other editors to shorten it and/or make a section for it, but I didn't expect anyone to just delete it for being too long, completely ignoring every advantage my version had, especially factual accuracy. This was also time-sensitive: I wanted to get factually correct and complete (as much as was known) info available before news sources started writing articles about the problem. Several such articles were published today. Most of the ones from technical sources didn't mistakenly mention the photoelectric effect (even though the Raspberry Pi Foundation article they quoted did), but the BBC article and the Belfast Telegraph article did. The BBC even explained that the photoelectric effect earned Einstein his Nobel Prize (though explained the effect incorrectly), so they probably came to Wikipedia at least for that. I haven't (can't) read every article written about the problem, but I expect the several I read are representative (first page of Google News results for 'raspberry pi'). Importantly, the two mainstream articles got it wrong, and they're the ones that people who aren't already familiar with the issue (or Raspberry Pi in general, or the two effects) are more likely to read. So, I think if the correct information had remained in the article for the rest of the day, rather than being replaced with a reiteration of the mistaken reference to the photoelectric effect, many laypeople being given incorrect info could have been avoided. (Note that I'm not saying anything about the laypeople's opinions of the Raspberry Pi 2 in light of this issue. It's not Wikipedia's job to promote products, but it is Wikipedia's job to provide correct and reasonably complete information.) I have now reverted it to my version and I expect that my version will be the basis for future edits of this paragraph for the reasons listed above. Ian01 ( talk) 10:16, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
The Rapsberry Pi is small but it's still a lot bigger than a credit card. 122.62.31.25 ( talk) 04:15, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
It's getting too big and looks hard to maintain. Suggest splitting in two tables (ex. by generation). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandrujuncu ( talk • contribs) 10:21, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
can someone add something about Raspivid and Raspistill? A search of wikipedia about either of these two comes up blank. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadout mapes ( talk • contribs) 22:38, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
In the info panel on the right, the division that details the specs of the Raspberry Pi 1 is actually showing an image of a Raspberry Pi 2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremyrfoster ( talk • contribs) 21:58, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
AROS natively boots to the Raspberry Pi series. I am going to add it to this article. In Correct ( talk) 21:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
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“HDMI (rev 1.3 & 1.4), 14 HDMI resolutions from 640×350 to 1920×1200 plus various PAL and NTSC standards, composite video (PAL and NTSC) via 3.5 mm TRRS jack shared with audio out” - which 14 hdmi resolutions are them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.83.78.35 ( talk) 17:27, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
I've moved the infoboxes to the top of the article. I hope no one has an issue. Wonderfl (reply) 14:40, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
The image currently on the page for the original Raspberry Pi is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.243.172.40 ( talk) 03:49, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Raspbian, which this article links to, currently redirects back here. I would think there there's enough that could be said for a separate though short article (directing the reader to Debian for further info). Any opposition to splitting one off? 98.19.62.140 ( talk) 02:21, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
There should be a reference to Scratch_(programming_language) as one of the languages supported on the Pi. It is listed as such in the FAQ for the Pi: [1].
Zvmphile ( talk) 07:11, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
I think it's time to rewrite the table for the versions. Raspberry Pi 3 is out and the width of the table is getting two big. Either split it off into separate tables (for example Model A, Model B and compute node into separate tables) or flip the table and have the versions be the rows and the characteristics the columns (probably worth having more than one tables here too). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandrujuncu ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
WP:LEAD says "Editors should avoid lengthy paragraphs and over-specific descriptions, since greater detail is saved for the body of the article."
Given the number of times there have been updates to the Pi, I'd argue that details of the specifications of the A, B, A+ and B+ are less interesting than a longer term comparison of the latest (Pi 3) to the first (eg "10 times more powerful" is something non-technical readers understand on first read).
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Can anyone source stats on where most Pis are now manufactured? I can find sources from 2013 saying that the plan was in future for most of them to be manufactured in Wales, but nothing more recent saying if that is actually now the case. If it is, it might be worth mentioning fairly prominently as primarily-UK tech manufacture is now fairly unusual (while still not being the same as the Pi having been *developed* in Wales, which it wasn't). TSP ( talk) 14:54, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
It would be great if the article could provide enlightenment on the general idea behind the different models. This is very confusing to newbies. To my knowledge, the Bs and B+s are the consumer versions, whereas the As and A+s are the industry models, correct? Thanks, Maikel ( talk) 14:35, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
I was about to add new info blocks for the A,B and A+ versions, as I thought they were missing, before realising the information is all under the B+ model info block. I think however, as the B+ v1 RPi and the 2 and 3 RPi's look more or less identical (2x2 stacks of USB on the right), I think it's silly listing them in the 3 blocks. The Rpi B
was the most available Rpi for several years (I have 2), and the Rpi A (only a single USB and no RJ45 connector)
was the equivalent to the Zero for the same length of time. So I'm not sure why the most similar, older model, the B+ is displayed, over the distinctive A and B models. Please send me a message if someone wants me to take a more uniform photo of my RPi A, rather than the oblique one I listed
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As an aside, when referencing the RPi, it's useful to know the original model B See Photo at elinux.org included a populated JTAG header, next to the SVideo connector. This gets in the way, if you try to use some cases (such as the PiBow). Hence I'd guess it's worth being pointed out, in reference material, as it can be a significant different. sibaz ( talk) 10:00, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Pi is developing quite the range of OS support now. I've hacked in (cough) Diet Pi as it is, in my experience, a stable and very versatile solution. I'm using it for a VPN, DNLA server and even a three variations of Minecraft servers distributed over just two machines. It also comes with at least two desktops (Mate and LXDE) and a bunch of other stuff. Someone should make a page. I'm not connected to the project (save for being a patron) but I believe it deserves a mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.170.111 ( talk) 21:00, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
In section Overclocking there is "6 overvolt", "2 overvolt" and "0 overvolt". What does that mean? It is not clear at all from the context.
For instance, is there an implicit unit, like 0.1 volt? In that case, shouldn't the voltage be stated instead, like 0.6 V overvoltage? -- Mortense ( talk) 10:17, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
2v overvolt-- samtar talk or stalk 10:25, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
overvolting the whatever by 0.2 volts?-- samtar talk or stalk 14:04, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi, at the bottom of the first section of this article it states that "The Foundation provides Debian and Arch Linux ARM distributions for download,[8]" but they do not--following that link leads to only their download of the Debian based distro. Seeing as the footnote leads to the page that shows the article to be incorrect the article should be updated--I just wanted to post here first in case I was wrong about something. Is there something I missed--otherwise I will edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Errans ( talk • contribs) 12 August 2016 (UTC)
"Haiku – is an source BeOS clone has been targeted for the Raspberry Pi and several other ARM boards.[96] Work began in 2011 on Pi 1, but only the Pi 2 will be supported."
This does not parse as English, it requires at least two more words to make sense. 93.155.221.34 ( talk) 09:34, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
I added a div style="clear: both" before the Specifications section to create enough vertical space for all floating figures to render. The specifications table, which has become huge lately, can then take up the full page width. I think this looks a lot better.
Roper Klacks ( talk) 14:56, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
"The CM3L brings the SD card interface to the Module pins so a user can wire this up to an eMMC or SD card of their choice." Does the table imply an interface you can plug in? There space is small to get the right idea across.. what should we do? comp.arch ( talk) 11:36, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
I second a previous comment made in 2012: It would be great to have an image with a coin/credit card for scale. -- Jeran Renz ( talk) 13:26, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Here is a reference to the open source firmware. https://github.com/christinaa/rpi-open-firmware
Is this a sufficient or appropriate reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.77.5.76 ( talk) 10:41, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
I see one place where it says 512MB and another that says 1M. I don't think Pi 2 had 1M, the Pi 3 does. I do have both. Bcw142 ( talk) 14:37, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Encyclopedic articles should not parrot the company's or organization's talking points and PR slogans. Intentions, motives, and the developers' overall desire to make the world a better place (sorry for the sarcasm) are not encyclopedic facts. Product achievements and successes should not be praised empathically, but described in a neutral and uninvolved tone. Of course editors are excited about such new technologies and developments, but these positive opinions should not be reflected in the article's main text (except from a properly sourced and attributed "Reception" section). I'll try to tone down some of the problematic phrases, but more care should be taken to meet the requirements of WP:NPOV. GermanJoe ( talk) 19:40, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Proogs ( talk) 11:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi; I don't edit wikipedia much other than minor edits, so I hope this is right place to ask this.
I added some info about a commercial use for a Pi - the Robe MiniMe - that's been reverted. I'd linked to the product's own webpage as proof of its inclusion in the product but I think you need a more independent source. Would an article in the industry press be sufficient? I've found PLSN's road test of the product - would this be a better reference? PLSN's article It actively talks about the use of the Raspberry Pi as a media server within the unit.
If it's OK, perhaps someone can revert the text back again with this as the reference, please? Thanks.
Proogs ( talk) 01:38, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks - it's rather difficult to talk about commercial use of something and to name the product without someone taking it as an advert. Is there an accepted way of phrasing something such that it mentions a commercial product without it being misinterpreted? Perhaps I should just be nonspecific when mentioning it - but then it becomes a useless addition to the 'commercial' section!
See https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/zero-wh/ -- 91.221.59.24 ( talk) 11:58, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Good news - 19 a good quality photos under CC license was uploaded to c:Category:Raspberry_Pi_3_Model_B+. -- Jasc PL ( talk) 02:09, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that the infobox name is "Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ (latest version)" - this is incorrect, as the article is "Raspberry Pi" and the infobox title should reflect this. I went into the article to change it, and see the following:
|name = Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ (latest version) <!-- Please don't rename -->
What rationale is there for there to be an insistence on "Please don't rename"? Having the title as "Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ (latest version)" is a bad thing - the B+ doesn't even have a section within the article, yet we announce it at the top.
The model history is covered in the Overview section - it's not the job of the infobox to list the latest model available. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 13:38, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Date in paragraph is 2019. A future date in the context does not seem correct. I do not know the correct date. Simonthecarpenter ( talk) 22:46, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Does the article actually benefit from having that many figures of n-boards-sold-by-month-M? I can understand an important milestone or two in addition to one recent figure, but 5 in total seems a bit much. BZRatfink ( talk) 02:10, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Could an established editor please fix the punctuation and capitalization errors (especially in the introductory section)?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.68.84.198 ( talk) 16:27, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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-- C. A. Russell ( talk) 01:00, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Please correct the wrong link at "RiscOS", thanks. 194.3.247.8 ( talk) 18:56, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Nothing I can find on wikipedia mentions the known problems with the USB hardware on the Raspberry Pi SoC chip. Please include details of this problem so that others like myself do not feel burned by purchasing something that does not live up to expectations. Details are available at: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/08/24/2228251/serious-problems-with-usb-and-ethernet-on-the-raspberry-pi http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39175 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.95.141.46 ( talk) 10:15, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Are you suggesting that a link to the organization's own forum where people actively working on the problems are discussing it is not reliable??? — Preceding
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If you bothered to read the thread I linked, you might notice it is 6 pages of posts from a large number of people in a locked thread. Several of the people work for the organization and this can be verified.
So, the article will be edited to include at the very least the info from Guy Macon's links above? Or are you too busy treating me like a child to bot her? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.95.141.46 ( talk • contribs) 22:00, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi everyone. I am new to wikipedia edit protection system, which I find very appropriate btw. I would simply like to add my RaspberryPI distro project on the page. It is called pipaOS and you can visit it here: http://pipaos.mitako.eu. I think the "Multi-purpose light distributions" section would be appropiate. Thanks in advance. Albert Skarbat ( talk) 10:25, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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The opening paragraph says that: The Foundation's goal is to offer two versions, priced at US$25 and US$35.
This is obsolete, both models are offered. I would suggest the page is edited to: "The Foundation offers two versions, priced at US$25 and US$35" Arthurs ( talk) 19:58, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
It should be more clear and easier to understand that the device is useless without the BLOB by broadcom, because it can't boot without. At the moment this is not clear for an audience without much knowledge about the problem, like students and kids who make their first "steps" with the RaspPi in school.
I don't know how to do it, because "Driver API" might not be the right place. So a separate section which explains the problem would be better (IMHO).
80.187.109.172 ( talk) 00:52, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be numerous and consistent reports that the audio of the first batch of Raspberry Pi boards produce numerous clicks and popping. There are a number of work-a-rounds on the web, a patch that results in some buzzing instead of "clicks", and even a kickstarter project that is a dongle that plugs into the board for an attempt at better audio. I wanted to get other's views and inputs on this before I add a new section to the article. In fact, I originally came to this article looking for information concerning this apparent problem with the boards. Here is a video of apparently loud clicking coming through, Perhaps the section could go into how audio is generated on the Rapsberry Pi (i.e. via the PWMs) Nodekeeper ( talk) 09:43, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi, https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv According to other sources the Pi doesn't fulfill the FSF free hardware critera. Maybe that should be included in the article (or at least be included when it will be). I'm not sure the above link shows any indication that they are making any progress on that (maybe not intented to?). But there seems to be some progress in "freeing" (parts of?) the GPU binary blob (bootloader/firmware?). I haven't waded throught this all open source project but there might be something to report from there. comp.arch ( talk) 10:35, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Should a note be placed in the article to state that there will be no new version of the RaspberryPi until September 2015 at the earliest? See http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=56598 "Eben Upton, Founder, has stated in public that he would expect a NEW board between two and three years from now (Sept 2013)." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.64.3.2 ( talk) 04:26, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
It should be noted that android has no working (or rather working well) builds. I don't believe Broadcom ever released the 4.0 image for it either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.1.167 ( talk) 01:17, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Is it completly open hardware or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.78.74.104 ( talk) 03:34, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Citation 36 is a dead link (I have no idea where to put this.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.1.178.45 ( talk) 20:50, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Image1 Source1, Image2 Source2, Image3 Source3. As an aside, look what you can do with a board that small. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 00:35, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
I take issue with it being described as credit-card sized on the basis that even if it's x and y dimensions were that of a credit card, it's z dimension isn't anywhere near that size. Wallet-sized might be a better description, or perhaps simply rephrasing it to "about the length and width of credit card." Better yet, just list it's actual dimensions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.20.43.154 ( talk) 23:34, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
It's actually about the size of a packet of cigarettes or tampons. It is about the size of 15 credit cards. Greglocock ( talk) 01:36, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
...and to be honest, is its size the most important fact about it, such that it should be in the first line of the lede? Greglocock ( talk) 01:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
It's not about the size in millimeters, or the thickness. That's all nonsense, its to give people a mental picture of the relative size of the device, much tinier than previous computers. And at launch time it was big enough a deal that almost all media cared to mention its size which was most easily compared to a credit card, and in fact a credit card was used as inspiration for how big it should be. Obviously, especially with parts sticking out, its not exactly to the mm precisely as big as a credit card, and nobody expects when you say "its credit card sized" next to a picture of it that is only a few mm high, but people can get a much better idea how big it is based on a mental impression of the size of a credit card. It's size was and still is one of the distinguishing features of the raspberry PI. Mahjongg ( talk) 10:54, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
With the recent release of the Raspberry Pi Compute module - it is now available in a smaller size - using the DDR2 SO-DIMM form factor. Regards, Lynbarn ( talk) 09:23, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
The lede states: The Raspberry Pi is manufactured in two board configurations through licensed manufacturing deals with Newark element14 (Premier Farnell), RS Components and Egoman. Is this actually the case? my understanding is that manufacture is by Sony at their Welsh plant, on behalf of the Raspberry Pi Foundation, and these are distributed world-wide (except China) by Farnell and RS. Ergoman manufacture for the China?Taiwan market alone. If this is confirmed, I think it should be made clearer. Regards, Lynbarn ( talk) 19:22, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
We need a clear new section, with explanation and diagrams to show the differences between versions A, B and B+. What will the next one be called? B++ or C- ?
Lehasa ( talk) 17:11, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
My Raspberry Pi rev. B has a HRNG I do not see mentioned in the article. See: http://scruss.com/blog/2013/06/07/well-that-was-unexpected-the-raspberry-pis-hardware-random-number-generator/ I agree with the author of https://sites.google.com/site/astudyofentropy/project-definition/raspberry-pi-internal-hardware-random-number-generator that this makes the RPi a great (and very cheap) source for obtaining cryptographic quality random numbers. I would have inserted this information but I cannot decide where. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N-double-u ( talk • contribs) 10:39, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Broadcom is not the only provider for the core chip. I read a Samsung K4P4G324EQ-RGC2 on my newly bought Pi B+. The B+ used as illustration seems also to be carrying a Samsung chip. The multifunction chip near USB ports is an SMSC LAN9514-JZX. Perhaps some "BOM guru" could enlighten us on hardware details as seen on the B+.
I came to this article because I want to learn about RaspberryP Pi, but the article is difficult to read because of over-referencing. The opening line "Raspberry Pi is a credit-card-sized single-board computer developed in the UK by the Raspberry Pi Foundation with the intention of promoting the teaching of basic computer science in schools" does not need five references. This is out out of line with WP:LEAD and with WP:REFBLOAT. Not only is there severe reference overkill, but their use contradicts WP:NOTREPOSITORY and WP:NOTMANUAL. I suggest these guidelines be used to make this article more readable. There are 88 references which point into www.raspberrypi.org which goes against WP:USEPRIMARY. -- Cornellier ( talk) 17:18, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately this change remove a lot of content as well, leaving some sections somewhat garbled. 80.4.146.162 ( talk) 13:17, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix seems to appear twice in the OS list
1. Pidora; and
2. Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix
is this an error or are there two different Fedora variants that should be listed discretely, but adjacent? -- Elmeter ( talk) 19:53, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
This product is just a different version of the Raspberry Pi. - Mr X 13:38, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
I think we're getting a consensus here. I'll redir & ask for User:Kinianox's edit to be merged in for attribution. Bazj ( talk) 17:28, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Done & histmerge requested.
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Big new release. Model B+ is 6x faster (900Mhz, quad-core and 1Gb ram). http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/2/7954617/raspberry-pi-2-announced-on-sale - MarsRover ( talk) 11:41, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
I added 2nd infobox subset dedicated to new RPi2 to make it easier to understand, because packing too much in ONE infobox is very confusing. I have used this method in other articles, such as Keystone Pipeline, and I've seen it used in some other articles. Some fields won't exist in the 2nd infobox (i.e. logo). I haven't removed the RPi2 info from the 1st infobox yet, just in case everyone threw rocks at the 2nd infobox. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 00:18, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Last night, I made this edit (plus two smaller clarifying edits to the same paragraph right afterward), and User:Sbmeirow reverted it only six minutes later, including restoring a factually incorrect statement that I'd corrected. This is what I wrote:
References
This is what Sbmeirow reverted it to:
My version was superior in the following ways:
It was inferior in the following ways:
I knew at the time that it was long, and I expected other editors to shorten it and/or make a section for it, but I didn't expect anyone to just delete it for being too long, completely ignoring every advantage my version had, especially factual accuracy. This was also time-sensitive: I wanted to get factually correct and complete (as much as was known) info available before news sources started writing articles about the problem. Several such articles were published today. Most of the ones from technical sources didn't mistakenly mention the photoelectric effect (even though the Raspberry Pi Foundation article they quoted did), but the BBC article and the Belfast Telegraph article did. The BBC even explained that the photoelectric effect earned Einstein his Nobel Prize (though explained the effect incorrectly), so they probably came to Wikipedia at least for that. I haven't (can't) read every article written about the problem, but I expect the several I read are representative (first page of Google News results for 'raspberry pi'). Importantly, the two mainstream articles got it wrong, and they're the ones that people who aren't already familiar with the issue (or Raspberry Pi in general, or the two effects) are more likely to read. So, I think if the correct information had remained in the article for the rest of the day, rather than being replaced with a reiteration of the mistaken reference to the photoelectric effect, many laypeople being given incorrect info could have been avoided. (Note that I'm not saying anything about the laypeople's opinions of the Raspberry Pi 2 in light of this issue. It's not Wikipedia's job to promote products, but it is Wikipedia's job to provide correct and reasonably complete information.) I have now reverted it to my version and I expect that my version will be the basis for future edits of this paragraph for the reasons listed above. Ian01 ( talk) 10:16, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
The Rapsberry Pi is small but it's still a lot bigger than a credit card. 122.62.31.25 ( talk) 04:15, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
It's getting too big and looks hard to maintain. Suggest splitting in two tables (ex. by generation). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandrujuncu ( talk • contribs) 10:21, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
can someone add something about Raspivid and Raspistill? A search of wikipedia about either of these two comes up blank. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadout mapes ( talk • contribs) 22:38, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
In the info panel on the right, the division that details the specs of the Raspberry Pi 1 is actually showing an image of a Raspberry Pi 2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremyrfoster ( talk • contribs) 21:58, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
AROS natively boots to the Raspberry Pi series. I am going to add it to this article. In Correct ( talk) 21:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
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“HDMI (rev 1.3 & 1.4), 14 HDMI resolutions from 640×350 to 1920×1200 plus various PAL and NTSC standards, composite video (PAL and NTSC) via 3.5 mm TRRS jack shared with audio out” - which 14 hdmi resolutions are them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.83.78.35 ( talk) 17:27, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
I've moved the infoboxes to the top of the article. I hope no one has an issue. Wonderfl (reply) 14:40, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
The image currently on the page for the original Raspberry Pi is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.243.172.40 ( talk) 03:49, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Raspbian, which this article links to, currently redirects back here. I would think there there's enough that could be said for a separate though short article (directing the reader to Debian for further info). Any opposition to splitting one off? 98.19.62.140 ( talk) 02:21, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
There should be a reference to Scratch_(programming_language) as one of the languages supported on the Pi. It is listed as such in the FAQ for the Pi: [1].
Zvmphile ( talk) 07:11, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
I think it's time to rewrite the table for the versions. Raspberry Pi 3 is out and the width of the table is getting two big. Either split it off into separate tables (for example Model A, Model B and compute node into separate tables) or flip the table and have the versions be the rows and the characteristics the columns (probably worth having more than one tables here too). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandrujuncu ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
WP:LEAD says "Editors should avoid lengthy paragraphs and over-specific descriptions, since greater detail is saved for the body of the article."
Given the number of times there have been updates to the Pi, I'd argue that details of the specifications of the A, B, A+ and B+ are less interesting than a longer term comparison of the latest (Pi 3) to the first (eg "10 times more powerful" is something non-technical readers understand on first read).
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Can anyone source stats on where most Pis are now manufactured? I can find sources from 2013 saying that the plan was in future for most of them to be manufactured in Wales, but nothing more recent saying if that is actually now the case. If it is, it might be worth mentioning fairly prominently as primarily-UK tech manufacture is now fairly unusual (while still not being the same as the Pi having been *developed* in Wales, which it wasn't). TSP ( talk) 14:54, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
It would be great if the article could provide enlightenment on the general idea behind the different models. This is very confusing to newbies. To my knowledge, the Bs and B+s are the consumer versions, whereas the As and A+s are the industry models, correct? Thanks, Maikel ( talk) 14:35, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
I was about to add new info blocks for the A,B and A+ versions, as I thought they were missing, before realising the information is all under the B+ model info block. I think however, as the B+ v1 RPi and the 2 and 3 RPi's look more or less identical (2x2 stacks of USB on the right), I think it's silly listing them in the 3 blocks. The Rpi B
was the most available Rpi for several years (I have 2), and the Rpi A (only a single USB and no RJ45 connector)
was the equivalent to the Zero for the same length of time. So I'm not sure why the most similar, older model, the B+ is displayed, over the distinctive A and B models. Please send me a message if someone wants me to take a more uniform photo of my RPi A, rather than the oblique one I listed
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As an aside, when referencing the RPi, it's useful to know the original model B See Photo at elinux.org included a populated JTAG header, next to the SVideo connector. This gets in the way, if you try to use some cases (such as the PiBow). Hence I'd guess it's worth being pointed out, in reference material, as it can be a significant different. sibaz ( talk) 10:00, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Pi is developing quite the range of OS support now. I've hacked in (cough) Diet Pi as it is, in my experience, a stable and very versatile solution. I'm using it for a VPN, DNLA server and even a three variations of Minecraft servers distributed over just two machines. It also comes with at least two desktops (Mate and LXDE) and a bunch of other stuff. Someone should make a page. I'm not connected to the project (save for being a patron) but I believe it deserves a mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.16.170.111 ( talk) 21:00, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
In section Overclocking there is "6 overvolt", "2 overvolt" and "0 overvolt". What does that mean? It is not clear at all from the context.
For instance, is there an implicit unit, like 0.1 volt? In that case, shouldn't the voltage be stated instead, like 0.6 V overvoltage? -- Mortense ( talk) 10:17, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
2v overvolt-- samtar talk or stalk 10:25, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
overvolting the whatever by 0.2 volts?-- samtar talk or stalk 14:04, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi, at the bottom of the first section of this article it states that "The Foundation provides Debian and Arch Linux ARM distributions for download,[8]" but they do not--following that link leads to only their download of the Debian based distro. Seeing as the footnote leads to the page that shows the article to be incorrect the article should be updated--I just wanted to post here first in case I was wrong about something. Is there something I missed--otherwise I will edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Errans ( talk • contribs) 12 August 2016 (UTC)
"Haiku – is an source BeOS clone has been targeted for the Raspberry Pi and several other ARM boards.[96] Work began in 2011 on Pi 1, but only the Pi 2 will be supported."
This does not parse as English, it requires at least two more words to make sense. 93.155.221.34 ( talk) 09:34, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
I added a div style="clear: both" before the Specifications section to create enough vertical space for all floating figures to render. The specifications table, which has become huge lately, can then take up the full page width. I think this looks a lot better.
Roper Klacks ( talk) 14:56, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
"The CM3L brings the SD card interface to the Module pins so a user can wire this up to an eMMC or SD card of their choice." Does the table imply an interface you can plug in? There space is small to get the right idea across.. what should we do? comp.arch ( talk) 11:36, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
I second a previous comment made in 2012: It would be great to have an image with a coin/credit card for scale. -- Jeran Renz ( talk) 13:26, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Here is a reference to the open source firmware. https://github.com/christinaa/rpi-open-firmware
Is this a sufficient or appropriate reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.77.5.76 ( talk) 10:41, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
I see one place where it says 512MB and another that says 1M. I don't think Pi 2 had 1M, the Pi 3 does. I do have both. Bcw142 ( talk) 14:37, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Encyclopedic articles should not parrot the company's or organization's talking points and PR slogans. Intentions, motives, and the developers' overall desire to make the world a better place (sorry for the sarcasm) are not encyclopedic facts. Product achievements and successes should not be praised empathically, but described in a neutral and uninvolved tone. Of course editors are excited about such new technologies and developments, but these positive opinions should not be reflected in the article's main text (except from a properly sourced and attributed "Reception" section). I'll try to tone down some of the problematic phrases, but more care should be taken to meet the requirements of WP:NPOV. GermanJoe ( talk) 19:40, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Proogs ( talk) 11:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi; I don't edit wikipedia much other than minor edits, so I hope this is right place to ask this.
I added some info about a commercial use for a Pi - the Robe MiniMe - that's been reverted. I'd linked to the product's own webpage as proof of its inclusion in the product but I think you need a more independent source. Would an article in the industry press be sufficient? I've found PLSN's road test of the product - would this be a better reference? PLSN's article It actively talks about the use of the Raspberry Pi as a media server within the unit.
If it's OK, perhaps someone can revert the text back again with this as the reference, please? Thanks.
Proogs ( talk) 01:38, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks - it's rather difficult to talk about commercial use of something and to name the product without someone taking it as an advert. Is there an accepted way of phrasing something such that it mentions a commercial product without it being misinterpreted? Perhaps I should just be nonspecific when mentioning it - but then it becomes a useless addition to the 'commercial' section!
See https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/zero-wh/ -- 91.221.59.24 ( talk) 11:58, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Good news - 19 a good quality photos under CC license was uploaded to c:Category:Raspberry_Pi_3_Model_B+. -- Jasc PL ( talk) 02:09, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
I noticed that the infobox name is "Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ (latest version)" - this is incorrect, as the article is "Raspberry Pi" and the infobox title should reflect this. I went into the article to change it, and see the following:
|name = Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ (latest version) <!-- Please don't rename -->
What rationale is there for there to be an insistence on "Please don't rename"? Having the title as "Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ (latest version)" is a bad thing - the B+ doesn't even have a section within the article, yet we announce it at the top.
The model history is covered in the Overview section - it's not the job of the infobox to list the latest model available. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 13:38, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Date in paragraph is 2019. A future date in the context does not seem correct. I do not know the correct date. Simonthecarpenter ( talk) 22:46, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Does the article actually benefit from having that many figures of n-boards-sold-by-month-M? I can understand an important milestone or two in addition to one recent figure, but 5 in total seems a bit much. BZRatfink ( talk) 02:10, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Could an established editor please fix the punctuation and capitalization errors (especially in the introductory section)?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.68.84.198 ( talk) 16:27, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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