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The choice of Broadcom (BCM2835) products result in non-existent documentation as always. See this thread at raspberrypi.org. When the RE starts, please post a link to results. Electron9 ( talk) 18:51, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Intel GPUs have been a bit of a mixed bag:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAzOTI
But there are are some interesting developments on the Raspberry Pi / Linux front:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA1MTc
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA0OTQ
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=arm_mali_reverse&num=1
For those who are following along, it should be emphasized that we are talking about accelerated video. OpenGL ES 2.0 is more than sufficient to run X, Gnome, KDE, etc. Accelerated video is more of an issue if someone wants to write state-of-the-art games that take full advantage of the GPU. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 13:56, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Followup: there is a review at http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/pcs/2012/04/16/raspberry-pi-review/ that reports a noticeable performance hit while web browsing from the non-accelerated video, so it appears that it is more of an issue than I described above. -- Guy Macon ( talk)
Is the firmware image some kind of FPGA image, or CPU/DSP code? and what's the status on redistribution rights of that binary file? Electron9 ( talk) 00:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
this block diagram, on the right:
is a bit confusing in that the block marked ethernet actually functions as a USB hub with three USB ports to which one of them the actual USB Ethernet adapter is connected. it Is true that the hub, and the USB ethernet adapter are integrated into a single chip, (the LAN9512) but the block diagram as drawn doesn't make sense. Mahjongg ( talk) 23:49, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, not sure if I'm remembering wrong, but I thought there used to be a redirect from "raspi" to this article.
If not, should there be? Seems to be a common shortening.
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I just checked all the redirects to this page for errors (many had no categories) and added a few. The list of titles that redirect here is now:
R-pi
RASPI
RasPi
Raspi
RaspPi
RaspBerry Pi
Raspberry pi
RaspBerryPi
RaspberryPi
Raspberrypi
Raspberyy Pi
Rasberry Pi
Rasberry pi
Razberry Pi
Razberry pi
(15 redirects)
"Raspberyy Pi" was already there and isn't worth the bother of removing it, but I avoid redirects for things like that. Let the "Did you mean: Raspberry Pi?" system take care of those. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 08:20, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
There currently is no Arch Linux ARM article, a project *completely* separate from Arch Linux. Do not "fix" the "Arch Linux ARM" links by making them redirect to the Arch Linux article. Make the article if it bugs you that much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buhman ( talk • contribs) 15:10, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
When is somebody going to add AROS as a planned operating system choice for Raspberry Pi? In-Correct ( talk) 18:51, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
"The device also features proprietary high performance video and graphic capability as well as a low price at currently 25 USD for model A and 35 USD for model B, taxes apply."
Please, someone rewrite this in a more convenient manner, the whole intro block is written like a sales pitch — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.207.243.112 ( talk) 15:24, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Somebody please post a everyday life object vs Raspberry Pi photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.138.93.242 ( talk) 04:29, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
If you're still interested, I took a pic with a 50 pence, 50 €cent and a quarter dollar coin... Ideeman1994 ( talk) 20:01, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
This map (created by Ryanteck) has been recently included and removed from the 'External links' section here. The Foundation's blog post has also been used as a source for the number of units shipped (although the figure of 20,000 wasn't derived from the map). I see a few issues:
Thoughts? -- Trevj ( talk) 12:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
With this edit, I'm adding a mention of the Raspberry Jams. I have a potential conflict of interest in this area, and declare that I have exchanged correspondence with O'Donohoe, and met him in person at a recent Raspberry Jam. I have been involved in the organisation of the Bristol Raspberry Jam. I always seek to ensure that my edits are neutral and non-promotional, and I trust that the community will remove/amend them in accordance with our policies if this is found not to be the case. Thanks. -- Trevj ( talk) 12:02, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Raspbmc is based on Raspian and can be used as normal linux distribution. I have it installed on my Pi and also installed some additional packages (Samba PDC, Compilers, etc.) So I don't think it's a single-purpose distribution, just preconfigured for XBMC :) -- Moritz94 ( talk) 22:14, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Several times now, I have removed content showcasing the "supercomputer" recently made from a cluster of Raspberry Pis. Let me explain my rationale.
And, as I stated previously, I think it's a neat project. But there are hundreds of neat RPi projects now. The external links section cannot support them all. New ones every day. Shall we report many of them? I suggest we can't and shouldn't because this is a general purpose Linux computer, so common Linux projects are expected. Thoughts? -- Ds13 ( talk) 00:44, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
There seem to be a rather a lot of external links, many of which seem not to pass WP:EL. Including some unofficial links, the justification seems to be that the foundation recognises (or similar) them but surely that has no basis here? This page is not run or maintained by the foundation and is completely separate. Яehevkor ✉ 07:44, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Within today, there are a various of splits possible, with those CPU/GPU splits: 128/384 - 192/320 - 224/288 - 240/272 - 256/256 - 384/128 - 448/64 - 496/16 -- source: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.245.147.81 ( talk) 07:37, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I have deleted the paragraph covering the GPU driver open sourcing controversy because I find it to be misleading -- apparently written with a misunderstanding of the criticism from the open source side.
No. What they're saying is that this "driver" doesn't contain any useful bits -- the useful bits of what generally constitute a "driver" are not part of the release -- they are actually hidden deep in the firmware. This is addressed in the original Dave Airlie's blog post: http://airlied.livejournal.com/76383.html
The rest of the paragraph continues to bash said "open source movement" for being silly enough to demand firmware code.
Some other points:
-- intgr [talk] 09:52, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
I think the best course of action would be to wait until (and if) a real news source ( secondary source) covers this that presents both viewpoints, so we have something solid to cite. -- intgr [talk] 19:11, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Further to this 10-month old thread, shouldn't we include #Programming languages or similar? This question has been prompted by learning that SpecBAS (a derivative of Sinclair BASIC) is available. There must be numerous RSes referring to various languages. Perhaps previous concerns regarding undue weight and listcruft could be reconsidered in light of subsequent reporting. The information could be included as prose. I consider which langauges people are reported as using as being valid encyclopedic information which should be given due weight. -- Trevj ( talk) 11:13, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion involving this page at [Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring]]. The thread is User:121.72.121.67 reported by User:Guy Macon. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 23:58, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
I think it would be nice to start tracking the revision changes between boards. I came here hoping to find an easy reference to differences between revision 1 and revision 2 "B" boards but was only pointed to a post on raspberrypi.org.
Here's what I'm thinking... Instead of what it has now, the Specifications in the Hardware section could have subsections, "Model A" and "Model B". Each of those would have Pre-release, Revision 1, Revision 1 + ECN0001, Revision 2, etc as needed, and each would spell out the important differences. For example, mounting holes and USB backfeed powered on Rev 2.
In addition, I think it would be good to say how to discover which revision you have (cat /proc/cpuinfo) and "D5 (Green LED) graphic changed from OK to ACT (Activity)"
Does that sound like a good idea? -- Jwater7 ( talk) 01:23, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Note: This model does not have an onboard network controller.
All Model B boards have:
Many model revisions can be identified by the command: pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo ... Revision : 0002 However, this is not reliable - it doesn't work on mine.
Produced 100 PCBs
Silk screen label shows the raspberry with copyright "2011". This includes board versions (found behind ethernet connector): 1218
TODO - no info yet
Silk screen label shows the raspberry with copyright "2011.12" and mounting holes near it. This includes board versions (found behind ethernet connector): 1245
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The paragraph beginning 'Launch' starts with a confusing 'The first batch of 10,000 boards was manufactured...'.
If the subject of the verb is 'first batch' then the 'of 1,000 boards' should be delimited either within brackets or commas otherwise, the subject becomes 'of 1,000 boards' which is clearly plural and therefore, 'was' should be replaced with 'were'.
Kind regards, Paul Marillionuk ( talk) 14:03, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Every so often, someone attempts to insert a claim into this article that the Raspberry Pi is Open Source Hardware. It is not. See the copyright notice on page 5 of http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Raspberry-Pi-R2.0-Schematics-Issue2.2_027.pdf -- "Design (c) 2011-2012 Raspberry Pi Foundation All Rights Reserved"
Many (but not all) of the software components are Open Source, but the hardware is not, even if you are only talking about that subset of the hardware that was designed by and is manufactured by the Raspberry Pi Foundation. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 21:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
It has been over a month since it was decided to merge Raspbian with Raspberry Pi. Someone has to create a short section here that contains the key points from that page. I can do it, but it usually goes smoother if the editors who have been actively editing the page do the merging. I can handle the nuts and bolts of making the merge happen if you don't want to be bothered with that. Is anybody willing to step in and help? -- Guy Macon ( talk) 12:50, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
"...with the intention of stimulating the teaching of..." Should that be simulating rather than stimulating? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zamdrist ( talk • contribs) 00:35, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
promoting, per Use modern language. -- Trevj ( talk) 16:02, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
"..lower cost model A on February 4, 2012". I think the year should be 2013. The citation confirms it. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.123.174.115 ( talk) 10:32, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
"There is in reality no difference between a model A with an external Ethernet adapter and a model B with one built in, because the Ethernet port of the model B is actually a built-in USB Ethernet adapter." This is misleading as written. the model B also has twice the memory and an additional USB port. -- 24.131.96.11 ( talk) 16:25, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
The section titled Operating Systems currently begins with: "This is a list of operating systems running, ported or in the process of being ported to Raspberry Pi." and the list follows. In my opinion, the list is not very helpful to the reader. An operating system in the process of being ported could mean that someone simply decided to begin to tinker with a port, but realistically it may never come close to being completed. The list would be a slightly useful if each item had a reference, so the progress could be investigated by an interested reader. Ideally, there would be two lists: one with operating systems which have been ported, and another with ports in progress. All should have references. In the meantime, someone with knowledge about this could delete the OSs in progress and make it a more useful list. Eb.eric ( talk) 01:15, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
I would like to discuss the following series of edits: Diff1 Diff2 Diff3 Diff4
The relevant citation is here, and the relevant Wikipedia policy is at WP:NPOV. Other useful pages: WP:BRD, WP:TALKDONTREVERT.
I would like to invite User:121.74.137.8 and User:Mahjongg to discuss the merits of their preferred versions here. We may also wish to discuss the merits of the above citation. Please note that it appears that one or more of the users editing this page appear to have contributed to the citation. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 03:34, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
...And another sockpuppet revert without discussion. Let's see...what was this page semiprotected for? Oh. Right. Persistent sockpuppetry. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 05:18, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Its quite clear that this anonymous editor simply feels a need, for whatever reason, to try to put things in the article that defame the raspberry PI. Seen his latest baseless claim " The five overclock ("turbo") presets were changed because overclocking the core causes SD card corruption, apparently due to bugs in the BCM2835 SoC" these five presets were in fact NOT changed, I don't know where he has got that information from, its simply bullshit. What the OP seems to do is to search for some negative truths about the PI and then represent them in the most damaging way, making things up along the way. Mahjongg ( talk) 14:30, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Bullshit? No, it is absolutely true: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008#comment-33058 and http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=32743 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.74.158.215 ( talk) 14:52, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
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Add NetBSD link to the summary box links of the top right of the page Silverskrll ( talk) 20:11, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Adafruit.com: occidentalis-v0-dot-2 Jakehawkes42 ( talk) 16:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Could you please update the details of one operating system listed here.
§ Single-purpose light distributions — Instant WebKiosk
The Instant WebKiosk developer states:
" Please note that Instant WebKiosk/EDS for Raspberry Pi project is suspended, please don't ask." [18]
I argue to remove this distribution from the list rather than modify it's current listing as the developer is clear that further inquiries are not welcome.
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I think an important operating system is missing from the list of Linux distributions in section 3.1. This is the armfh version of Bodhi Linux and it is mentioned here: Bodhi_Linux#R_Pi_Bodhi_Linux Johnniepop ( talk) 16:36, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Should we really want to have one?
There are potentially thousands of applications possible, and you need just one fan of an application, and you will get another entry in what will become a never ending list. Mahjongg ( talk) 00:37, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
According to the article, Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix is listed as its [RPi's] recommended Linux distribution. I'm not sure the reference attached to this assertion carries the Foundation's full weight (despite being posted I believe by Liz Upton). In the FAQs it states "We recommend Debian as our default distribution." The archive at http://web.archive.org/web/20120624073034/http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs (2012-06-24) reports the same statement. I suppose the way to have this verified would be to ask Liz. Nimpo ( talk) 18:32, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
@Section 2.1: The SMSC LAN9512 is not an "3-Port USB HUB" but just an two port hub (in combination with an Ethernet PHY) Look at her: http://www.smsc.com/LAN9512 -- ReneDens ( talk) 13:19, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
The article does not explain how the Broadcom BCM2835 SoC controls Ethernet through the LAN9512 USB hub. To overcome this a link to Ethernet over USB should be added to the sentence "... the Ethernet port of the model B is actually a built-in USB Ethernet adapter." -- Dinarsad ( talk) 12:38, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
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Please change the memory on the Model A to 512MB as it now has the same memory as the Model B. 50.43.89.24 ( talk) 23:33, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
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01:27, 11 May 2013 (UTC)http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM3NzM http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM3NzI
Useable right now(?) from source or when: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM2MTM
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The Raspberry Pi Camera has just been released. Please update! Nagol68 ( talk) 20:27, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Done Mahjongg ( talk) 15:24, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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The articles currently says: In the highest ("turbo") preset the SDRAM clock was originally 500 MHz, but this was later changed from to 600 Mhz because 500 MHZ sometimes causes SD card corruption. Simultaneously in "High" mode the core clock speed was lowered from 450 to 250 MHz. Higher clock speed because lower causes corruption? "changed from to"? A drop almost 50%? Could someone please check these numbers? -- Guy Macon ( talk) 12:50, 8 June 2013 (UTC) Disputed info from 121.72.118.83 on USB power and Memory clock I found this addition which seems to be disputed because the reference is a forum thread. But I still find it useful. So it's here it is should anyone need it:
Electron9 ( talk) 00:20, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
I have included the source for the overclocking information with my latest edit: https://github.com/asb/raspi-config/commit/c5e1966418922862b2a84559c567c35e6a1c4c28 Surely this can't be disputed now? 121.72.118.83 ( talk) 09:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Alex Bradbury (asb) is the author of raspi-config and as you can see from the link I gave the overclocking settings were different when they were first introduced than they are now. They were added on 17 September 2012 and changed on 28 October 2012. This link shows that the reason for the change is due to SD card corruption, which is exactly what I said: https://github.com/asb/raspi-config/commit/a7a7b12ad0c0bf7e7fe9e1eadc4b35887230f2fb Somebody should add that to the article. I will eventually do that if nobody else can be bothered and would rather delete useful and relevant information instead. 121.72.118.83 ( talk) 11:06, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
If polyfuses are removed from the circuit board any photo of the circuit board ought to show this easily. Perhaps some one could collect photos of a few cards and falsify this claim? Electron9 ( talk) 18:12, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Edit warning noticeboard discussion IP reported at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:121.72.118.83 reported by User:Guy Macon (Result: Level 1 pending changes protection ). Also see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/121.72.121.67/Archive. There is a reason why the IP cannot come up with a reliable source for his USB claims. Protecting USB posts with polyfuses is a common practice which doesn't even come close to being notable. One wonders why the IP has it in for the Raspberry Pi; competitor, perhaps? -- Guy Macon ( talk) 17:24, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Notice to the Raspberry Pi zealots Like everything the Raspberry Pi has its flaws. You need to deal with that instead of deleting useful and relevant information you apparently can't cope with. Your mindless zealotry will be counteracted. You can't possibly block every IP address I can use. 121.72.118.83 ( talk) 02:47, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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This article is now under lever 1 Wikipedia:Pending changes protection, thus making the above discussion moot. Please review Wikipedia:Protection policy#pc1, Wikipedia:User access levels#Reviewer and Wikipedia:Reviewing, and consider requesting reviewer permissions at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Reviewer. I advise not responding to any further trolling by an IP editor who is clearly WP:NOTHERE and who now cannot edit this article. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 11:20, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
OK, this page is now temporarily protected so the IP vandal cannot edit it. Still working on a range block, which will stop him from editing any Wikipedia page even if he changes IP addresses. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:121.72.118.83 reported by User:Guy Macon (Result: Level 1 pending changes protection )
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The choice of Broadcom (BCM2835) products result in non-existent documentation as always. See this thread at raspberrypi.org. When the RE starts, please post a link to results. Electron9 ( talk) 18:51, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Intel GPUs have been a bit of a mixed bag:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAzOTI
But there are are some interesting developments on the Raspberry Pi / Linux front:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA1MTc
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA0OTQ
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=arm_mali_reverse&num=1
For those who are following along, it should be emphasized that we are talking about accelerated video. OpenGL ES 2.0 is more than sufficient to run X, Gnome, KDE, etc. Accelerated video is more of an issue if someone wants to write state-of-the-art games that take full advantage of the GPU. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 13:56, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Followup: there is a review at http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/pcs/2012/04/16/raspberry-pi-review/ that reports a noticeable performance hit while web browsing from the non-accelerated video, so it appears that it is more of an issue than I described above. -- Guy Macon ( talk)
Is the firmware image some kind of FPGA image, or CPU/DSP code? and what's the status on redistribution rights of that binary file? Electron9 ( talk) 00:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
this block diagram, on the right:
is a bit confusing in that the block marked ethernet actually functions as a USB hub with three USB ports to which one of them the actual USB Ethernet adapter is connected. it Is true that the hub, and the USB ethernet adapter are integrated into a single chip, (the LAN9512) but the block diagram as drawn doesn't make sense. Mahjongg ( talk) 23:49, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, not sure if I'm remembering wrong, but I thought there used to be a redirect from "raspi" to this article.
If not, should there be? Seems to be a common shortening.
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23:27, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
I just checked all the redirects to this page for errors (many had no categories) and added a few. The list of titles that redirect here is now:
R-pi
RASPI
RasPi
Raspi
RaspPi
RaspBerry Pi
Raspberry pi
RaspBerryPi
RaspberryPi
Raspberrypi
Raspberyy Pi
Rasberry Pi
Rasberry pi
Razberry Pi
Razberry pi
(15 redirects)
"Raspberyy Pi" was already there and isn't worth the bother of removing it, but I avoid redirects for things like that. Let the "Did you mean: Raspberry Pi?" system take care of those. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 08:20, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
There currently is no Arch Linux ARM article, a project *completely* separate from Arch Linux. Do not "fix" the "Arch Linux ARM" links by making them redirect to the Arch Linux article. Make the article if it bugs you that much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buhman ( talk • contribs) 15:10, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
When is somebody going to add AROS as a planned operating system choice for Raspberry Pi? In-Correct ( talk) 18:51, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
"The device also features proprietary high performance video and graphic capability as well as a low price at currently 25 USD for model A and 35 USD for model B, taxes apply."
Please, someone rewrite this in a more convenient manner, the whole intro block is written like a sales pitch — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.207.243.112 ( talk) 15:24, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Somebody please post a everyday life object vs Raspberry Pi photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.138.93.242 ( talk) 04:29, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
If you're still interested, I took a pic with a 50 pence, 50 €cent and a quarter dollar coin... Ideeman1994 ( talk) 20:01, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
This map (created by Ryanteck) has been recently included and removed from the 'External links' section here. The Foundation's blog post has also been used as a source for the number of units shipped (although the figure of 20,000 wasn't derived from the map). I see a few issues:
Thoughts? -- Trevj ( talk) 12:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
With this edit, I'm adding a mention of the Raspberry Jams. I have a potential conflict of interest in this area, and declare that I have exchanged correspondence with O'Donohoe, and met him in person at a recent Raspberry Jam. I have been involved in the organisation of the Bristol Raspberry Jam. I always seek to ensure that my edits are neutral and non-promotional, and I trust that the community will remove/amend them in accordance with our policies if this is found not to be the case. Thanks. -- Trevj ( talk) 12:02, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Raspbmc is based on Raspian and can be used as normal linux distribution. I have it installed on my Pi and also installed some additional packages (Samba PDC, Compilers, etc.) So I don't think it's a single-purpose distribution, just preconfigured for XBMC :) -- Moritz94 ( talk) 22:14, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Several times now, I have removed content showcasing the "supercomputer" recently made from a cluster of Raspberry Pis. Let me explain my rationale.
And, as I stated previously, I think it's a neat project. But there are hundreds of neat RPi projects now. The external links section cannot support them all. New ones every day. Shall we report many of them? I suggest we can't and shouldn't because this is a general purpose Linux computer, so common Linux projects are expected. Thoughts? -- Ds13 ( talk) 00:44, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
There seem to be a rather a lot of external links, many of which seem not to pass WP:EL. Including some unofficial links, the justification seems to be that the foundation recognises (or similar) them but surely that has no basis here? This page is not run or maintained by the foundation and is completely separate. Яehevkor ✉ 07:44, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Within today, there are a various of splits possible, with those CPU/GPU splits: 128/384 - 192/320 - 224/288 - 240/272 - 256/256 - 384/128 - 448/64 - 496/16 -- source: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.245.147.81 ( talk) 07:37, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I have deleted the paragraph covering the GPU driver open sourcing controversy because I find it to be misleading -- apparently written with a misunderstanding of the criticism from the open source side.
No. What they're saying is that this "driver" doesn't contain any useful bits -- the useful bits of what generally constitute a "driver" are not part of the release -- they are actually hidden deep in the firmware. This is addressed in the original Dave Airlie's blog post: http://airlied.livejournal.com/76383.html
The rest of the paragraph continues to bash said "open source movement" for being silly enough to demand firmware code.
Some other points:
-- intgr [talk] 09:52, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
I think the best course of action would be to wait until (and if) a real news source ( secondary source) covers this that presents both viewpoints, so we have something solid to cite. -- intgr [talk] 19:11, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Further to this 10-month old thread, shouldn't we include #Programming languages or similar? This question has been prompted by learning that SpecBAS (a derivative of Sinclair BASIC) is available. There must be numerous RSes referring to various languages. Perhaps previous concerns regarding undue weight and listcruft could be reconsidered in light of subsequent reporting. The information could be included as prose. I consider which langauges people are reported as using as being valid encyclopedic information which should be given due weight. -- Trevj ( talk) 11:13, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion involving this page at [Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring]]. The thread is User:121.72.121.67 reported by User:Guy Macon. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 23:58, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
I think it would be nice to start tracking the revision changes between boards. I came here hoping to find an easy reference to differences between revision 1 and revision 2 "B" boards but was only pointed to a post on raspberrypi.org.
Here's what I'm thinking... Instead of what it has now, the Specifications in the Hardware section could have subsections, "Model A" and "Model B". Each of those would have Pre-release, Revision 1, Revision 1 + ECN0001, Revision 2, etc as needed, and each would spell out the important differences. For example, mounting holes and USB backfeed powered on Rev 2.
In addition, I think it would be good to say how to discover which revision you have (cat /proc/cpuinfo) and "D5 (Green LED) graphic changed from OK to ACT (Activity)"
Does that sound like a good idea? -- Jwater7 ( talk) 01:23, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Note: This model does not have an onboard network controller.
All Model B boards have:
Many model revisions can be identified by the command: pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo ... Revision : 0002 However, this is not reliable - it doesn't work on mine.
Produced 100 PCBs
Silk screen label shows the raspberry with copyright "2011". This includes board versions (found behind ethernet connector): 1218
TODO - no info yet
Silk screen label shows the raspberry with copyright "2011.12" and mounting holes near it. This includes board versions (found behind ethernet connector): 1245
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The paragraph beginning 'Launch' starts with a confusing 'The first batch of 10,000 boards was manufactured...'.
If the subject of the verb is 'first batch' then the 'of 1,000 boards' should be delimited either within brackets or commas otherwise, the subject becomes 'of 1,000 boards' which is clearly plural and therefore, 'was' should be replaced with 'were'.
Kind regards, Paul Marillionuk ( talk) 14:03, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Every so often, someone attempts to insert a claim into this article that the Raspberry Pi is Open Source Hardware. It is not. See the copyright notice on page 5 of http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Raspberry-Pi-R2.0-Schematics-Issue2.2_027.pdf -- "Design (c) 2011-2012 Raspberry Pi Foundation All Rights Reserved"
Many (but not all) of the software components are Open Source, but the hardware is not, even if you are only talking about that subset of the hardware that was designed by and is manufactured by the Raspberry Pi Foundation. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 21:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
It has been over a month since it was decided to merge Raspbian with Raspberry Pi. Someone has to create a short section here that contains the key points from that page. I can do it, but it usually goes smoother if the editors who have been actively editing the page do the merging. I can handle the nuts and bolts of making the merge happen if you don't want to be bothered with that. Is anybody willing to step in and help? -- Guy Macon ( talk) 12:50, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
"...with the intention of stimulating the teaching of..." Should that be simulating rather than stimulating? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zamdrist ( talk • contribs) 00:35, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
promoting, per Use modern language. -- Trevj ( talk) 16:02, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
"..lower cost model A on February 4, 2012". I think the year should be 2013. The citation confirms it. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.123.174.115 ( talk) 10:32, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
"There is in reality no difference between a model A with an external Ethernet adapter and a model B with one built in, because the Ethernet port of the model B is actually a built-in USB Ethernet adapter." This is misleading as written. the model B also has twice the memory and an additional USB port. -- 24.131.96.11 ( talk) 16:25, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
The section titled Operating Systems currently begins with: "This is a list of operating systems running, ported or in the process of being ported to Raspberry Pi." and the list follows. In my opinion, the list is not very helpful to the reader. An operating system in the process of being ported could mean that someone simply decided to begin to tinker with a port, but realistically it may never come close to being completed. The list would be a slightly useful if each item had a reference, so the progress could be investigated by an interested reader. Ideally, there would be two lists: one with operating systems which have been ported, and another with ports in progress. All should have references. In the meantime, someone with knowledge about this could delete the OSs in progress and make it a more useful list. Eb.eric ( talk) 01:15, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
I would like to discuss the following series of edits: Diff1 Diff2 Diff3 Diff4
The relevant citation is here, and the relevant Wikipedia policy is at WP:NPOV. Other useful pages: WP:BRD, WP:TALKDONTREVERT.
I would like to invite User:121.74.137.8 and User:Mahjongg to discuss the merits of their preferred versions here. We may also wish to discuss the merits of the above citation. Please note that it appears that one or more of the users editing this page appear to have contributed to the citation. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 03:34, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
...And another sockpuppet revert without discussion. Let's see...what was this page semiprotected for? Oh. Right. Persistent sockpuppetry. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 05:18, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Its quite clear that this anonymous editor simply feels a need, for whatever reason, to try to put things in the article that defame the raspberry PI. Seen his latest baseless claim " The five overclock ("turbo") presets were changed because overclocking the core causes SD card corruption, apparently due to bugs in the BCM2835 SoC" these five presets were in fact NOT changed, I don't know where he has got that information from, its simply bullshit. What the OP seems to do is to search for some negative truths about the PI and then represent them in the most damaging way, making things up along the way. Mahjongg ( talk) 14:30, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Bullshit? No, it is absolutely true: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008#comment-33058 and http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=32743 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.74.158.215 ( talk) 14:52, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
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Add NetBSD link to the summary box links of the top right of the page Silverskrll ( talk) 20:11, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Adafruit.com: occidentalis-v0-dot-2 Jakehawkes42 ( talk) 16:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Could you please update the details of one operating system listed here.
§ Single-purpose light distributions — Instant WebKiosk
The Instant WebKiosk developer states:
" Please note that Instant WebKiosk/EDS for Raspberry Pi project is suspended, please don't ask." [18]
I argue to remove this distribution from the list rather than modify it's current listing as the developer is clear that further inquiries are not welcome.
Fazrenar ( talk) 04:13, 15 March 2013 (UTC) Fazrenar
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I think an important operating system is missing from the list of Linux distributions in section 3.1. This is the armfh version of Bodhi Linux and it is mentioned here: Bodhi_Linux#R_Pi_Bodhi_Linux Johnniepop ( talk) 16:36, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Should we really want to have one?
There are potentially thousands of applications possible, and you need just one fan of an application, and you will get another entry in what will become a never ending list. Mahjongg ( talk) 00:37, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
According to the article, Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix is listed as its [RPi's] recommended Linux distribution. I'm not sure the reference attached to this assertion carries the Foundation's full weight (despite being posted I believe by Liz Upton). In the FAQs it states "We recommend Debian as our default distribution." The archive at http://web.archive.org/web/20120624073034/http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs (2012-06-24) reports the same statement. I suppose the way to have this verified would be to ask Liz. Nimpo ( talk) 18:32, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
@Section 2.1: The SMSC LAN9512 is not an "3-Port USB HUB" but just an two port hub (in combination with an Ethernet PHY) Look at her: http://www.smsc.com/LAN9512 -- ReneDens ( talk) 13:19, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
The article does not explain how the Broadcom BCM2835 SoC controls Ethernet through the LAN9512 USB hub. To overcome this a link to Ethernet over USB should be added to the sentence "... the Ethernet port of the model B is actually a built-in USB Ethernet adapter." -- Dinarsad ( talk) 12:38, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
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Please change the memory on the Model A to 512MB as it now has the same memory as the Model B. 50.43.89.24 ( talk) 23:33, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
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01:27, 11 May 2013 (UTC)http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM3NzM http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM3NzI
Useable right now(?) from source or when: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM2MTM
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The Raspberry Pi Camera has just been released. Please update! Nagol68 ( talk) 20:27, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Done Mahjongg ( talk) 15:24, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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The articles currently says: In the highest ("turbo") preset the SDRAM clock was originally 500 MHz, but this was later changed from to 600 Mhz because 500 MHZ sometimes causes SD card corruption. Simultaneously in "High" mode the core clock speed was lowered from 450 to 250 MHz. Higher clock speed because lower causes corruption? "changed from to"? A drop almost 50%? Could someone please check these numbers? -- Guy Macon ( talk) 12:50, 8 June 2013 (UTC) Disputed info from 121.72.118.83 on USB power and Memory clock I found this addition which seems to be disputed because the reference is a forum thread. But I still find it useful. So it's here it is should anyone need it:
Electron9 ( talk) 00:20, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
I have included the source for the overclocking information with my latest edit: https://github.com/asb/raspi-config/commit/c5e1966418922862b2a84559c567c35e6a1c4c28 Surely this can't be disputed now? 121.72.118.83 ( talk) 09:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Alex Bradbury (asb) is the author of raspi-config and as you can see from the link I gave the overclocking settings were different when they were first introduced than they are now. They were added on 17 September 2012 and changed on 28 October 2012. This link shows that the reason for the change is due to SD card corruption, which is exactly what I said: https://github.com/asb/raspi-config/commit/a7a7b12ad0c0bf7e7fe9e1eadc4b35887230f2fb Somebody should add that to the article. I will eventually do that if nobody else can be bothered and would rather delete useful and relevant information instead. 121.72.118.83 ( talk) 11:06, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
If polyfuses are removed from the circuit board any photo of the circuit board ought to show this easily. Perhaps some one could collect photos of a few cards and falsify this claim? Electron9 ( talk) 18:12, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Edit warning noticeboard discussion IP reported at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:121.72.118.83 reported by User:Guy Macon (Result: Level 1 pending changes protection ). Also see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/121.72.121.67/Archive. There is a reason why the IP cannot come up with a reliable source for his USB claims. Protecting USB posts with polyfuses is a common practice which doesn't even come close to being notable. One wonders why the IP has it in for the Raspberry Pi; competitor, perhaps? -- Guy Macon ( talk) 17:24, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Notice to the Raspberry Pi zealots Like everything the Raspberry Pi has its flaws. You need to deal with that instead of deleting useful and relevant information you apparently can't cope with. Your mindless zealotry will be counteracted. You can't possibly block every IP address I can use. 121.72.118.83 ( talk) 02:47, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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This article is now under lever 1 Wikipedia:Pending changes protection, thus making the above discussion moot. Please review Wikipedia:Protection policy#pc1, Wikipedia:User access levels#Reviewer and Wikipedia:Reviewing, and consider requesting reviewer permissions at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Reviewer. I advise not responding to any further trolling by an IP editor who is clearly WP:NOTHERE and who now cannot edit this article. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 11:20, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
OK, this page is now temporarily protected so the IP vandal cannot edit it. Still working on a range block, which will stop him from editing any Wikipedia page even if he changes IP addresses. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:121.72.118.83 reported by User:Guy Macon (Result: Level 1 pending changes protection )
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