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Numerous anonymous IP and "new user" edits have sought to introduce allegations that this Wisconsin public figure no longer lives in his legislative district, but resides only in the state's capital with his "mistress." The references cited for this claim have been blog sources and/or sites of questionable neutrality and credibility. Until irreproachable sourcing can be obtained that proves this individual does not have a legal residence in his district and/or lives with a "mistress," editors should refrain from introducing such content into the narrative, reference or external links of this entry. Wikipedia seeks to remain a neutral informational source, free of potentially libelous content and/or content that reflects bias or opinion. SWMNPoliSciProject ( talk) 23:00, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
I added an background section to the article. The information came from the 2009-2010 Wisconsin Blue Book. The info is not online at the Wisconsin Historical Society yet. Thanks- RFD ( talk) 15:34, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Public Policy Polling is an independent polling firm, just like Gallup, Zogby, SurveyUSA, etc. They are not push polls. In this case, Daily Kos sponsored the PPP poll, which of course should be noted in the article, but that does NOT mean that the poll was conducted on the Daily Kos website (it was not) or of a sample of Daily Kos readers (also not). In fact, PPP is better than average at predicting the actual results of elections, per Fivethirtyeight [1], which would certainly not be the case if they were polling a biased sample. Arbor8 ( talk) 13:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
I would like to know why the name has been removed from the article several times. She has been mentioned as being involved in different Hopper events 1) Patronage and 2) Hopper's arrest ("In the car with him was xxxxxx,, Hopper's 26-year-old girlfriend who landed a state job during his one term as senator.")
Why would her name be removed from the details about these events? — Preceding unsigned comment added by VLARKer7 ( talk • contribs) 00:05, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Several days ago, after Mr. Hopper had been found not guilty, I removed the arrest and trial sub-section of the article. I felt that it consumed a fairly large portion of the article and given that he had been judged innocent it seemed Undue and perhaps contrary to the spirit and letter of BLP. VLurker reverted the edit and I have not altered that revert. I do believe that this incident takes up a lot of space in a small article and is therefore undue, especially in that he was found not guilty. The BLP aspect is this...do we include accusations and trials of former politicians in articles? Is this noteworthy? Yes, we can find reliable sources for it. I keep going back to the "What Wikipedia is not". This is supposed to be an encyclopedia not a newspaper, and certainly not a tabloid. Here is my rule of thumb: Twenty years from now would it be important to know that a former state senator (after having left office) had been charged and found not guilty of drunk driving? My answer leans to probably not. Capitalismojo ( talk) 00:04, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Why isn't his October 2012 arrest mentioned? The page is locked preventing people from editing it.
"Former Fond du Lac State Senator Randy Hopper is in trouble with the law again., and this time it’s more than drunk driving.
The 46-year-old Repubican was arrested late Sunday night in the Township of Fond du Lac for Disorderly Conduct - Domestic Abuse, Criminal Trespass to a Dwelling and Unlawful Use of a Telephone. Hopper was also cited for drunk driving first offense.
Hopper was arrested at the home of his ex-wife."
Sources:
No word yet if he's gonna claim its part of a labor union conspiracy that he was arrested drunk again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CapUNillin ( talk • contribs) 15:49, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
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Numerous anonymous IP and "new user" edits have sought to introduce allegations that this Wisconsin public figure no longer lives in his legislative district, but resides only in the state's capital with his "mistress." The references cited for this claim have been blog sources and/or sites of questionable neutrality and credibility. Until irreproachable sourcing can be obtained that proves this individual does not have a legal residence in his district and/or lives with a "mistress," editors should refrain from introducing such content into the narrative, reference or external links of this entry. Wikipedia seeks to remain a neutral informational source, free of potentially libelous content and/or content that reflects bias or opinion. SWMNPoliSciProject ( talk) 23:00, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
I added an background section to the article. The information came from the 2009-2010 Wisconsin Blue Book. The info is not online at the Wisconsin Historical Society yet. Thanks- RFD ( talk) 15:34, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Public Policy Polling is an independent polling firm, just like Gallup, Zogby, SurveyUSA, etc. They are not push polls. In this case, Daily Kos sponsored the PPP poll, which of course should be noted in the article, but that does NOT mean that the poll was conducted on the Daily Kos website (it was not) or of a sample of Daily Kos readers (also not). In fact, PPP is better than average at predicting the actual results of elections, per Fivethirtyeight [1], which would certainly not be the case if they were polling a biased sample. Arbor8 ( talk) 13:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
I would like to know why the name has been removed from the article several times. She has been mentioned as being involved in different Hopper events 1) Patronage and 2) Hopper's arrest ("In the car with him was xxxxxx,, Hopper's 26-year-old girlfriend who landed a state job during his one term as senator.")
Why would her name be removed from the details about these events? — Preceding unsigned comment added by VLARKer7 ( talk • contribs) 00:05, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Several days ago, after Mr. Hopper had been found not guilty, I removed the arrest and trial sub-section of the article. I felt that it consumed a fairly large portion of the article and given that he had been judged innocent it seemed Undue and perhaps contrary to the spirit and letter of BLP. VLurker reverted the edit and I have not altered that revert. I do believe that this incident takes up a lot of space in a small article and is therefore undue, especially in that he was found not guilty. The BLP aspect is this...do we include accusations and trials of former politicians in articles? Is this noteworthy? Yes, we can find reliable sources for it. I keep going back to the "What Wikipedia is not". This is supposed to be an encyclopedia not a newspaper, and certainly not a tabloid. Here is my rule of thumb: Twenty years from now would it be important to know that a former state senator (after having left office) had been charged and found not guilty of drunk driving? My answer leans to probably not. Capitalismojo ( talk) 00:04, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Why isn't his October 2012 arrest mentioned? The page is locked preventing people from editing it.
"Former Fond du Lac State Senator Randy Hopper is in trouble with the law again., and this time it’s more than drunk driving.
The 46-year-old Repubican was arrested late Sunday night in the Township of Fond du Lac for Disorderly Conduct - Domestic Abuse, Criminal Trespass to a Dwelling and Unlawful Use of a Telephone. Hopper was also cited for drunk driving first offense.
Hopper was arrested at the home of his ex-wife."
Sources:
No word yet if he's gonna claim its part of a labor union conspiracy that he was arrested drunk again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CapUNillin ( talk • contribs) 15:49, 30 June 2013 (UTC)