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The climate is usually defined by the average temperature for each of the months. Not by max and minimum averages. This applies to most climate tables in Wikipedia - but here is an example of an otherwise very good table of figures (degrees C with one decimal for instance) The table only lacks the most important line - the line of average temperaures for each months on a 24 hour basis. The average (24 hrs) temperature for a certain month is not equal to average max + average min divided in two. This has to do with the fact that temperatures usually rises very fast after sunrise - up to the 24 hour maximum , and then remains at around the same temperature for a few hours and then temperature begins to drop much slower and at sunset temperatures does not begin to fall faster then just before. There's no equivalence to the sunrise fast temperature rising at sunset. Temperatures continue to drop after sunset but at the same "speed" as in the late afternoon. The 24 hour min temperature is usually just before sunrise. To This an explaining of how temperatures rises and falls during an average 24 hour day. At discussions of climate and climate change (or comparing different geographical areas with each other) it's mainly this temperature - the average temperature of the 12 months or the average annual temperature - which is the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.249.39.47 ( talk) 14:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
In the section titled 'Modern Times' it is claimed that Ramsgate has the worst school in Britain. What school is this? Where is a citation? Infact, might I be so bold as to suggest a secion on education in the town. KevinCarmody 18:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
This page needs a Famous Residents Past and Present section. Nelson, Van Gough, Marx, Engles, etc etc. I don't mind starting on it later, but if anyone else wants to start in the interim, that would be cool. KevinCarmody 18:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Is it me or does the page seem a little disorganised?? This happens when new information is added but would it be worthwhile having a tidy up and reorganising the sections to make it cleaner?
I propose new sections of:
What do you think??
adem80 15:12, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
That third paragraph definitely needs breaking down. Ok, I've had a bit of a play, how about a layout something like this (this is just a sketch):
There is probably stuff that I've missed and stuff that is superfluous. Maybe some of the subsections wont be needed and can just be seperated on the page, like the education bit ^_^. The Modern Times section thats already on the page could easily be divided up. To call something Modern Times is a little subjective anyway, so it's not really a worry to lose that title. I don't think the page needs a seperate gallery as such, but rather have the photos weaved through the fabric of the page. Like a beach photo in a tourism section and photo of the marina in a section of the harbour.
Ok, there is something to think about.
KevinCarmody 02:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
That sounds really good. Giving it seperate sections will encourage further contributions. I reckon your categories will be fine and once it's been edited we can always modify some of the headers slightly if needed.
adem80 17:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I've given the page an overhaul using your suggestions for the headers. There are some sections that are incomplete but I included them anyway and will owrk on them over the next few days.
I've also left the gallery in there for the moment as I think it'll be better to sort out all the sections then include the various photos. adem80 18:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Good work Kev. It's nice to see the page expanding. A lot of work to still be done, and once all the sections are complete it'll be worth reading it through completely and maybe refining a bit. 88.105.142.46 18:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Mr IP is me!! I must've logged out by accident.
adem80 09:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Changed intro to reflect present day Ramsgate using existing info from article body. Moved origins of the name "Ramsgate" into History section. Pgr94 05:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I find the history section has plenty of interesting information but is growing too big to be part of the main Ramsgate article. I'd like to suggest we create a new article dedicated to Ramsgate's history. The main Ramsgate article could cover the salient points and link to the history article for more detail. Any opinions? Pgr94 11:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Shaw architects don't belong in an article on Ramsgate. If they are sufficiently notable they should have their own article. Website in memory of the Shaw architects Pgr94 08:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
This is news to me. Can anyone provide more info? Pgr94 18:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
There are no references in the following section and I was unable to verify the claims (cf WP:V). I have removed the section from the article, but if it can be substantiated then it can of course be restored.
Ramsgate has a history of industrial militancy. In August 1920, a decision by the Ramsgate corporation to sell 1000 tons of locally produced coal to Denmark set off what became known as the Coal Riot. It was unfortunate perhaps that these shipments were to be transported by two German ships, the first world war still fresh in local minds. Massive police protection of the harbour was required, but this did not prevent local people from venting their displeasure upon the local authorities.
Pgr94 ( talk) 21:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
This article needs more citations to back up the probably correct first half of the article. -- Lord Matt ( talk) 06:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
verify: ref bygone kent, meresboro press, check... faedra! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.174.43 ( talk) 15:26, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
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Even now I've cleaned it up a bit, it feels like the Townley House article should be a paragraph in this one rather than a free-standing article. 82.20.52.30 ( talk) 19:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
User Trackorack recently moved the entire contents of Port of Ramsgate into this article, leaving next to nothing in Port of Ramsgate. I think that some information about the port in this article is useful, adding all the information is excessive. It clutters the article and doesn't leave much room for growth on either subject. I wonder if any others would care to comment. pgr94 ( talk) 21:14, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
The new "See also" section has 17 Ramsgate links, so I decided it was time for a Ramsgate category. After a first pass, there are now 19 entries in the category. Hopefully this will help make the articles more coherent and avoid overlap (as helpfully pointed out by TrackORack). pgr94 ( talk) 12:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
There was a list of clubs and societies in the external links that was removed. The new link (DMOZ) is pretty poor in comparison. I don't understand why the wiki should be deleted; having a poor quality list doesn't improve the article. Perhaps DMOZ should be updated if it is to be used as a replacement. Anyone have an opinion on this? pgr94 ( talk) 12:54, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The page has a "culture" section, but it is empty. Was it intentionally left blank? Maybe the section should be removed completely if there is no notable culture in Ramsgate? VisitMargate ( talk) 22:26, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
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The climate is usually defined by the average temperature for each of the months. Not by max and minimum averages. This applies to most climate tables in Wikipedia - but here is an example of an otherwise very good table of figures (degrees C with one decimal for instance) The table only lacks the most important line - the line of average temperaures for each months on a 24 hour basis. The average (24 hrs) temperature for a certain month is not equal to average max + average min divided in two. This has to do with the fact that temperatures usually rises very fast after sunrise - up to the 24 hour maximum , and then remains at around the same temperature for a few hours and then temperature begins to drop much slower and at sunset temperatures does not begin to fall faster then just before. There's no equivalence to the sunrise fast temperature rising at sunset. Temperatures continue to drop after sunset but at the same "speed" as in the late afternoon. The 24 hour min temperature is usually just before sunrise. To This an explaining of how temperatures rises and falls during an average 24 hour day. At discussions of climate and climate change (or comparing different geographical areas with each other) it's mainly this temperature - the average temperature of the 12 months or the average annual temperature - which is the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.249.39.47 ( talk) 14:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
In the section titled 'Modern Times' it is claimed that Ramsgate has the worst school in Britain. What school is this? Where is a citation? Infact, might I be so bold as to suggest a secion on education in the town. KevinCarmody 18:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
This page needs a Famous Residents Past and Present section. Nelson, Van Gough, Marx, Engles, etc etc. I don't mind starting on it later, but if anyone else wants to start in the interim, that would be cool. KevinCarmody 18:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Is it me or does the page seem a little disorganised?? This happens when new information is added but would it be worthwhile having a tidy up and reorganising the sections to make it cleaner?
I propose new sections of:
What do you think??
adem80 15:12, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
That third paragraph definitely needs breaking down. Ok, I've had a bit of a play, how about a layout something like this (this is just a sketch):
There is probably stuff that I've missed and stuff that is superfluous. Maybe some of the subsections wont be needed and can just be seperated on the page, like the education bit ^_^. The Modern Times section thats already on the page could easily be divided up. To call something Modern Times is a little subjective anyway, so it's not really a worry to lose that title. I don't think the page needs a seperate gallery as such, but rather have the photos weaved through the fabric of the page. Like a beach photo in a tourism section and photo of the marina in a section of the harbour.
Ok, there is something to think about.
KevinCarmody 02:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
That sounds really good. Giving it seperate sections will encourage further contributions. I reckon your categories will be fine and once it's been edited we can always modify some of the headers slightly if needed.
adem80 17:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I've given the page an overhaul using your suggestions for the headers. There are some sections that are incomplete but I included them anyway and will owrk on them over the next few days.
I've also left the gallery in there for the moment as I think it'll be better to sort out all the sections then include the various photos. adem80 18:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Good work Kev. It's nice to see the page expanding. A lot of work to still be done, and once all the sections are complete it'll be worth reading it through completely and maybe refining a bit. 88.105.142.46 18:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Mr IP is me!! I must've logged out by accident.
adem80 09:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Changed intro to reflect present day Ramsgate using existing info from article body. Moved origins of the name "Ramsgate" into History section. Pgr94 05:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I find the history section has plenty of interesting information but is growing too big to be part of the main Ramsgate article. I'd like to suggest we create a new article dedicated to Ramsgate's history. The main Ramsgate article could cover the salient points and link to the history article for more detail. Any opinions? Pgr94 11:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Shaw architects don't belong in an article on Ramsgate. If they are sufficiently notable they should have their own article. Website in memory of the Shaw architects Pgr94 08:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
This is news to me. Can anyone provide more info? Pgr94 18:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
There are no references in the following section and I was unable to verify the claims (cf WP:V). I have removed the section from the article, but if it can be substantiated then it can of course be restored.
Ramsgate has a history of industrial militancy. In August 1920, a decision by the Ramsgate corporation to sell 1000 tons of locally produced coal to Denmark set off what became known as the Coal Riot. It was unfortunate perhaps that these shipments were to be transported by two German ships, the first world war still fresh in local minds. Massive police protection of the harbour was required, but this did not prevent local people from venting their displeasure upon the local authorities.
Pgr94 ( talk) 21:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
This article needs more citations to back up the probably correct first half of the article. -- Lord Matt ( talk) 06:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
verify: ref bygone kent, meresboro press, check... faedra! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.174.43 ( talk) 15:26, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
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Even now I've cleaned it up a bit, it feels like the Townley House article should be a paragraph in this one rather than a free-standing article. 82.20.52.30 ( talk) 19:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
User Trackorack recently moved the entire contents of Port of Ramsgate into this article, leaving next to nothing in Port of Ramsgate. I think that some information about the port in this article is useful, adding all the information is excessive. It clutters the article and doesn't leave much room for growth on either subject. I wonder if any others would care to comment. pgr94 ( talk) 21:14, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
The new "See also" section has 17 Ramsgate links, so I decided it was time for a Ramsgate category. After a first pass, there are now 19 entries in the category. Hopefully this will help make the articles more coherent and avoid overlap (as helpfully pointed out by TrackORack). pgr94 ( talk) 12:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
There was a list of clubs and societies in the external links that was removed. The new link (DMOZ) is pretty poor in comparison. I don't understand why the wiki should be deleted; having a poor quality list doesn't improve the article. Perhaps DMOZ should be updated if it is to be used as a replacement. Anyone have an opinion on this? pgr94 ( talk) 12:54, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The page has a "culture" section, but it is empty. Was it intentionally left blank? Maybe the section should be removed completely if there is no notable culture in Ramsgate? VisitMargate ( talk) 22:26, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
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