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Article talk about criticism by Dayanand Saraswati, founder of Arya Samaj. It must be some other Dayanand, not founder of Arya Samaj. As founder of Arya Samaj died years ago in 1880s. Please correct it. - Nizil ( talk) 09:28, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
There are numerous individuals, I would guess hundreds of thousands, named Rampal, several arguably more famous than the Sant Rampal (see Rampal (disambiguation), until a few days ago. Why is he the chosen one? It would be far clearer if the article is termed "Sant Rampal". Malaiya ( talk) 02:36, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge, the term " godman" is used only by the English press. Is there a Hindi equivalent of the term? More accurately, "often described as a godman" it should be "often described as a godman in the English press". It is a derogatory term that can be applied to any (and only to) Indian/Hindu religious leader.
Malaiya ( talk) 02:44, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Malaiya ( talk) 23:54, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Need more citation that he was actually a Kabir Panthi. Only news reports are not enough i guess as it even hurts the religious believes of other people and blemish the image of Kabir Panth.- Vinay Kohli ( talk)
He says “unnecessary charity is prohibited.” His website adds, "Do not have to give anything in form of charity anywhere and to anyone. Neither money, nor unstitched cloth etc, nothing. If someone comes asking for any charity then feed him and give something to drink like tea, milk, lassi, water etc, but do not have to give anything else. Who knows that beggar might misuse that money."So his views should be mentioned in the right context. - NitinMlk ( talk) 23:45, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
he claims that all the major religious scriptures — including Vedas, Gita, Quran, Bible and Guru Granth Sahib — name Kabir as the supreme god", and it cites this source for the same. But the sentence seems like WP:SYNTH. Can anyone quote the lines which support the aforementioned claim? BTW, the claim regarding Vedas seems fine. - NitinMlk ( talk) 00:09, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Saint Rampal Ji didn't skip 42 hearings, He couldn't attend only two because of being ill. [1] [2] Also, He was never found negligent in His duties, He Himself resigned from the job. [3] And, there are some other issues too. Kabirisgod ( talk) 16:50, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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I wonder if the second paragraph of the introduction describing a timeline of events is in the relevant section of the article. It seems unnecessarily precise for an introduction. Furthermore, there is a more exhaustive timeline in the following sections. Thedarkfly ( talk) 07:56, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
The given source clearly stated that he has been acquitted from one case but he is still in prison for murder. In addition to that, a second source was Rampal's official website which is not reliable. Please provide a source that states he has been released before putting that edit in. Kenm v2 ( talk) 12:39, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
The name of the individual is just Rampal. While "Ji" or "Maharaj" can be used as a sign of respect, it should not be used in the article because it is not part of his name. Please stick to "Rampal", "He", and "Him". Kenm v2 ( talk) 12:43, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi, i thought i’ll make a talk page topic here to discuss the 2006 murder conviction. I used a reliable reference and the article clearly mentions that he has two murder convictions. Please link some sources claiming that it’s not true. Kenm v2 ( talk) 07:45, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
2401:4900:563a:3449:a225:cd3c:175b:abc has continually reverted back edits, adding in unnecessary information in the intro section and added information using biased sources like Rampal and his religious group's website. It seems like they are more interested in promoting a pro-Rampal agenda than editing in good faith. Wdonghan ( talk) 18:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
This article is target of repeated vandalism especially by the followers of this person. Hence this article needs to be edit protected. Shivck13 ( talk) 19:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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Article talk about criticism by Dayanand Saraswati, founder of Arya Samaj. It must be some other Dayanand, not founder of Arya Samaj. As founder of Arya Samaj died years ago in 1880s. Please correct it. - Nizil ( talk) 09:28, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
There are numerous individuals, I would guess hundreds of thousands, named Rampal, several arguably more famous than the Sant Rampal (see Rampal (disambiguation), until a few days ago. Why is he the chosen one? It would be far clearer if the article is termed "Sant Rampal". Malaiya ( talk) 02:36, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge, the term " godman" is used only by the English press. Is there a Hindi equivalent of the term? More accurately, "often described as a godman" it should be "often described as a godman in the English press". It is a derogatory term that can be applied to any (and only to) Indian/Hindu religious leader.
Malaiya ( talk) 02:44, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Malaiya ( talk) 23:54, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Need more citation that he was actually a Kabir Panthi. Only news reports are not enough i guess as it even hurts the religious believes of other people and blemish the image of Kabir Panth.- Vinay Kohli ( talk)
He says “unnecessary charity is prohibited.” His website adds, "Do not have to give anything in form of charity anywhere and to anyone. Neither money, nor unstitched cloth etc, nothing. If someone comes asking for any charity then feed him and give something to drink like tea, milk, lassi, water etc, but do not have to give anything else. Who knows that beggar might misuse that money."So his views should be mentioned in the right context. - NitinMlk ( talk) 23:45, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
he claims that all the major religious scriptures — including Vedas, Gita, Quran, Bible and Guru Granth Sahib — name Kabir as the supreme god", and it cites this source for the same. But the sentence seems like WP:SYNTH. Can anyone quote the lines which support the aforementioned claim? BTW, the claim regarding Vedas seems fine. - NitinMlk ( talk) 00:09, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
Saint Rampal Ji didn't skip 42 hearings, He couldn't attend only two because of being ill. [1] [2] Also, He was never found negligent in His duties, He Himself resigned from the job. [3] And, there are some other issues too. Kabirisgod ( talk) 16:50, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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I wonder if the second paragraph of the introduction describing a timeline of events is in the relevant section of the article. It seems unnecessarily precise for an introduction. Furthermore, there is a more exhaustive timeline in the following sections. Thedarkfly ( talk) 07:56, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
The given source clearly stated that he has been acquitted from one case but he is still in prison for murder. In addition to that, a second source was Rampal's official website which is not reliable. Please provide a source that states he has been released before putting that edit in. Kenm v2 ( talk) 12:39, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
The name of the individual is just Rampal. While "Ji" or "Maharaj" can be used as a sign of respect, it should not be used in the article because it is not part of his name. Please stick to "Rampal", "He", and "Him". Kenm v2 ( talk) 12:43, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi, i thought i’ll make a talk page topic here to discuss the 2006 murder conviction. I used a reliable reference and the article clearly mentions that he has two murder convictions. Please link some sources claiming that it’s not true. Kenm v2 ( talk) 07:45, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
2401:4900:563a:3449:a225:cd3c:175b:abc has continually reverted back edits, adding in unnecessary information in the intro section and added information using biased sources like Rampal and his religious group's website. It seems like they are more interested in promoting a pro-Rampal agenda than editing in good faith. Wdonghan ( talk) 18:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
This article is target of repeated vandalism especially by the followers of this person. Hence this article needs to be edit protected. Shivck13 ( talk) 19:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)